BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Makhmudov vs. Wach

[CMCanavessi]

Kubrat Pulev (28-2): Is fighting Andrey Fedosov in May. He's on a decent run TBF.

It's been changed and now he's fighting Jerry Forrest, at least until it's changed again :P

I was aware. Not the best opponent eh?

Honestly, I think it's a better opponent than the previous one. Should have been the winner vs. Hunter in that fight but.... judges.

[tiny_acres]

It's been changed and now he's fighting Jerry Forrest, at least until it's changed again :P

I was aware. Not the best opponent eh?

Honestly, I think it's a better opponent than the previous one. Should have been the winner vs. Hunter in that fight but.... judges.

Forrest is knocking on the top 20's door. If he can get by Pulev without being robbed like he has in the past he will deserve consideration for the top 15

[CMCanavessi]

I was looking at the cards of his fight vs Zhang and I can't believe one of the judges scored round 3 10-10, even when Forrest went down... How in hell are this guys judging?

[gregregegg]

I was looking at the cards of his fight vs Zhang and I can't believe one of the judges scored round 3 10-10, even when Forrest went down... How in hell are this guys judging?

That seems like a horror error. I was trying to look it up to see if its a boxrec error, or his error, and thinking surely if it was his error they would officaly change it to 93-93.. not that it matters, but even non result changing errors should be fixed. Cant be his real opinion that that was a 10-10.

P.s while trying to look it up i saw this result described as "a monotonous Draw"... ya joking right, someone nearly gets chinned 3 times then comes back to nearly kill the guy that chinned him... hardly monotonous.

[CMCanavessi]

No changes after today's fight, right?

[margaret thatcher]

no changes for fury obviously, but i think some might vote whyte down

[gregregegg]

he will move down for me. mainly because i thought he should be lower than the guys bellow him like parker and joyce and it wasnt a good preformance. think he landed 1 semi decent shot... nothing else, and got knocked earlier than everyone expected.

[oogiebe]

I'd knock Whyte down. He nothing for Fury and got KO'd by Old Man Pov.

[KiwiRider]

Whyte belongs one above Chisora.
One of our esteemed posters suggested thatvif Chisora is the UK gatekeeper, then Whyte is the European one.
I agree with that.
Whyte had been proven 3 times to be below leaving the European to world levels.
A win against the covid riddled ghost of Povetkin, a head butt decision against Parker, and losses to a green Joshua and an aged Povetkin, and being schooled by Fury who I believe didn't get out of second gear to do it.

[margaret thatcher]

depends how strict you are about calling guys world class

if whyte isnt world level, only at most 4 hws are

id say it was just fury being an elite top man and showing the difference between that and 'normal' world class

[CMCanavessi]

I thought we couldn't move down boxers, but if that is the case, then I would place him around Luis Ortiz (9th-10th).

[margaret thatcher]

we can move them down if theyre up for vote

we do get people who take the bizarre position that a guy should never be voted down if they dont lose (but then dont adhere to that when voting), but that doesnt apply here since whyte lost

[KiwiRider]

depends how strict you are about calling guys world class

if whyte isnt world level, only at most 4 hws are

id say it was just fury being an elite top man and showing the difference between that and 'normal' world class

4 HWs are world class right now, and a lot are sitting below them untested.
And in that 4 I'm counting Wilder which is a bit generous.
But 4 at the top tier is plenty, it is supposed to be a triangle.

[DrDuke]

Whyte should go lower. His recent record isn't that convincing. A win over the retired fighter after a loss to him and now another loss.

[joshj909]

Are we voting on this? I'd still move Whyte up to 4th based on the fact his record remains better than Wilder's

Parker/Joyce and Ruiz/Ortiz should mix up the top 15 a bit.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Are we voting on this? I'd still move Whyte up to 4th based on the fact his record remains better than Wilder's

Parker/Joyce and Ruiz/Ortiz should mix up the top 15 a bit.

I’ll get the thread on now

[joshj909]

Are we voting on this? I'd still move Whyte up to 4th based on the fact his record remains better than Wilder's

Parker/Joyce and Ruiz/Ortiz should mix up the top 15 a bit.

I’ll get the thread on now