BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Fury vs. Whyte

[Ruthless-RKO]

1. Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 28(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Tony Yoka - 11(9) 0 0 - next fight: 14.04.2022 vs. Martin Bakole - 17(13) 1(1) 0 - (unranked)

12. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by Tyson Fury's - 31(22) 0 1 (#1) win over Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 2(2) 0 (#5)?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Getting voting guys.

[joshj909]

Controversially:
- Fury down to #2 based on Usyk having a better recent win than Fury.
- Whyte up to #4 based on Whyte having a better record than Wilder despite the loss.

A few noteworthy HW fights scheduled or in discussion:
Parker/Joyce
Ruiz/Ortiz
Yoka/Bakole
Zhang/Hrgovic
Pulev/Forrest
Bryan/Dubois
There's also a slight possibility of Rivas Vs Babic/Rozanski at Bridgerweight but not yet in the works.

[oogiebe]

Whyte to 10

[tiny_acres]

Whyte to 9
Fury remains #1

[George_Jones88]

no change

[Ruthless-RKO]

Keep Fury where he is.

He has fought twice since Usyk’s win over AJ and he’s fought Wilder and Whyte both top 5 and KO’d them both.

I’m undecided about Whyte yet.

[Ruthless-RKO]

A few noteworthy HW fights scheduled or in discussion:
Parker/Joyce
Ruiz/Ortiz
Yoka/Bakole
Zhang/Hrgovic
Pulev/Forrest
Bryan/Dubois

Bryan-Dubois should be at announcing stage but shame it’s King in charge.

[Perkin Warbeck]

Whyte down to 10 (two stoppage losses in his past 3 fights, displayed poor stamina against Fury)

Fury should remain at # 1

[margaret thatcher]

fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)


i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been

like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.

joyce hasnt fought in almost a year

etc

i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys

[Ruthless-RKO]

I’ve put it to a poll.

[Ruthless-RKO]

fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)


i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been

like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.

joyce hasnt fought in almost a year

etc

i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys

I understand what you mean. Not moving him down too much.
Before Whyte fights again, a few of the lower guys should surely fight.

For example winner of Parker-Joyce should move above Whyte for sure.

If Ruiz-Ortiz gets made, again the winner of that will likely move up.

Let’s see what the majority think.

[cpx2]

Kept him at 5 for now, but he's a comprehensive Ruiz victory against Ortiz from going down to 7.
Winner of Joyce-Parker will definitely overtake him when that fight happens; and probably overtake Wilder too.

[HomicideHenry]

Fury #1 and Whyte #7, bumping Ruiz to #6 and Parker to #5

[Pukka Cheese]

Kept him at 5 for now, but he's a comprehensive Ruiz victory against Ortiz from going down to 7.
Winner of Joyce-Parker will definitely overtake him when that fight happens; and probably overtake Wilder too.

I agree with this

[oogiebe]

fury no change
whyte to 6 (switches with parker)


i just cant move whyte down too far considering how inactive or unimpressive a lot of these guys have been

like if we take ruiz, he hasnt fought in a year since the unimpressive points win over a waaaay shopworn arreola. in the past 2 years before that, all he had was the wide loss to josh.

joyce hasnt fought in almost a year

etc

i dont want to punish a lost to the #1 too harshly when other dudes just be sitting on their arses. whyte is still very accomplished compared to most of these guys

I put him at 10 considering he's 1-2 (2 KO losses) in his last three.

[margaret thatcher]

on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach

whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately

[oogiebe]

on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach

whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately

Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.

[margaret thatcher]

sheeyat, you moved him below ortiz too?

since 2018 all ortiz has beaten alex flores, chrissy hammer, and needed to get up twice to beat chuck martin.

[Tony1244]

Whyte to 10, he was too high to begin with.

[margaret thatcher]

on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach

whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately

Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.

why cut it at the last 3 though?

basically this rewards a guy like andy ruiz who has done jackshit for about 3 years

[margaret thatcher]

see, i think this is the type of stuff that results in inactive/lacklustre guys ending too high. andy ruiz will be climbing the rankings at this rate having not fought in a year (and he was very unimpressive at that...his only win in just about 3 years)

luis ortiz since 2018 will have only beaten alex flores, chris hammer, and charles martin, yet somehow dudes are wanting him to get a bump now. in the same period whyte beat parker, povetkin, rivas, chisora, and wach. wach is the worst there yet still ko'd hammer i might point out

for the guys plumetting whyte to something like #10, what did you rank him going into the fight?

[oogiebe]

on the other hand, in almost the last 3 years andy ruiz (who hasnt fought in a year) has only beaten a totally shopworn chris arreola, while whyte has beaten rivas, povetkin, and wach

whyte lost to the #1, i dont think that should slide him below guys who aint being doing sh!t lately

Based on one fight I agree. Just saying I took his last three into consideration.

why cut it at the last 3 though?

basically this rewards a guy like andy ruiz who has done jackshit for about 3 years

They weren't up for vote today. Don't be so dramatic boyo!

[margaret thatcher]

just saying, andy ruiz has 1 unimpressive win over about the last 3 years. inactive for a year

ortiz since 2018 has only beaaten florez, hammer, and martin, none of whom we ranked at the time. whytes beaten parker, rivas, povetkin, chisora, and wach. 4 of the 5 we ranked and the other ko'd one of ortiz's guys

just seems odd to me that whyte would plummet below guys like this off the loss to #1. we arent voting on these guys but we can factor them in when deciding where to place whyte

[DrDuke]

It's arguable with Parker, but Ruiz did more than Whyte in the last 3 bouts. It's also arguable with Joyce, but he will beat them all. Whyte to the 8th.