BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Yoka vs. Bakole / Pulev vs. Forrest

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1. Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBC vs. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 (#3)

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBC vs. Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 (#2)

4. Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBC vs. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 (#8)

6. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Joe Joyce - 13(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBC vs. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 (#5)

9. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Tony Yoka - 11(9) 1 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Otto Wallin - 22(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 26.05.2022 vs. Rydell Booker - 26(13) 5(1) 1 - (unranked)

13. Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Frank Sanchez - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

Questions: How are the rankings affected by:

Tony Yoka - 11(9) 1 0 (#11) losing to Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 (Unranked)

and

Kubrat Pulev's - 29(14) 2(2) 0 (#10) dominant win over Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 (Unranked) ?

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I know a couple of fights haven't yet been confirmed, but I wanted the list to look lively.

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My vote

Bakole to 10

Pulev to 11

Yoka to 15

Chisora out.

Will add some polls one by one.

[margaret thatcher]

yoka out
bakole to 10
pulev to 11
forrest still out

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yoka out
bakole to 10
pulev to 11
forrest still out

I didn’t even bother commenting on Forrest.

Just the fact he lost and wasn’t even in the top 15 haha.

[margaret thatcher]

you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

yoka took too much of a battering (from an unranked fighter) for me to keep in him

[joshj909]

Bakole in at 9
Pulev drops to 13
Yoka drops to 15
Forrest remains out

[Ruthless-RKO]

you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

Missed it.

Sorted.

[margaret thatcher]

just cant keep yoka in after that battering, he was lower to 15 to start and bakole was unranked

[margaret thatcher]

you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

Missed it.

Sorted.

[Ruthless-RKO]

just cant keep yoka in after that battering, he was lower to 15 to start and bakole was unranked

I understand that.

My view was Chisora hasn’t had a good win in 4 years, and been lingering down there a while.

That’s why my vote was Yoka replacing him.

Tbh, I can’t see Bakole being put above 10, no matter how dominating.

It’s where he goes from here will determine if he can enter top 10.

But let’s see what the majority think.

Will be an interesting one.

I voted Bakole above Pulev, simply because a win over Yoka is better than a win over Forrest.

[margaret thatcher]

he took a pounding and looked really weak in there vs a guy we didnt even rank, wasnt like yoka had been an established contender for years either or had beaten another guy we ranked at the time.

i dunno, to me he just looks out of place still being top 15 after that

[margaret thatcher]

i get you about chis, but on the other hand he basically fought 50-50 with our #5 two fights ago, a split decision that many people had him winning

[gregregegg]

bakolie to 9. Initialy said 10, but i think yoka might be better than ortizs best carrer win, and bakole on the up more than ortiz so ill nudge him above.

yoka to 14.

Pulev to 11. amazingly pulev gets leapfrogged by bakolie but other than that remains well ranked... hard to get overtaken when Otto is bellow you fighting booker..

[CMCanavessi]

I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.

[DrDuke]

Yoka out.

Wallin automatically moves 1 place higher.

Bakole to 12th.

[DrDuke]

Pulev stays.

[ironbeard]

Yoka out
Bakole to 12
Pulev no change

[Ruthless-RKO]

I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.

Well Bakole would replace one of them, it’s just the case of adding another.

[Ruthless-RKO]

bakolie to 9. Initialy said 10, but i think yoka might be better than ortizs best carrer win, and bakole on the up more than ortiz so ill nudge him above.

yoka to 14.

Pulev to 11. amazingly pulev gets leapfrogged by bakolie but other than that remains well ranked... hard to get overtaken when Otto is bellow you fighting booker..

So due to Bakole entering. Who would you have drop from the ranking?

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Make sure you get ur votes in the poll guys.

[CMCanavessi]

I agree with some guys above

Bakole to 9
Pulev to 10
Ortiz to 11 (Pulev looked in better shape than Ortiz did in his last fight)
Yoka and Chisora out, we'll need to decide which 2 fighters replace them.

Well Bakole would replace one of them, it’s just the case of adding another.

True, Hrgovic or Makhmudov may squeeze in.

[cpx2]

Bakole to 11. Yoka out altogether.

Can't really see Bakole to 9 or 10. He has a loss to Hunter (consensus top-20/25 heavy), who Forrest arguably beat. Forrest just got convincingly beaten by Pulev, so Pulev ought to remain at 10. I prefer the Yoka win to anything Wallin has achieved recently (he's fighting horrendous opposition), so I'd put him at 11.
The manner of Yoka's defeat was far worse than Chisora's in the first Parker fight, and no less convincing than Chisora's in the second, and Parker is a top-6 heavy. On that basis, Yoka drops out altogether.

[oogiebe]

Yoka out
bakole to 15
Pulev to 9 (best he's looked in quite some time)

[KiwiRider]

you need another option in the voting - there's nothing to put him at 10, just above 10

yoka took too much of a battering (from an unranked fighter) for me to keep in him

There has always been a question mark over Yoka, as in why an Olympic gold medalist wasn't fighting anyone of note. And finally he has been exposed by a third tier plodder.
Job done, bump him off the list, everyone saw what he is now.