GGG Next fight ?

[daz74]

I’ve raised this on a couple of threads but no-one’s feeling me.
So another go.
If it’s not Canelo, who will it be ?
I say unification with Andrade on DAZN.
If not, then who else ?

[Bandog]

I’ve raised this on a couple of threads but no-one’s feeling me.
So another go.
If it’s not Canelo, who will it be ?
I say unification with Andrade on DAZN.
If not, then who else ?

Honestly I think money will dictate his next fight, which I predict will be vs Canelo. Canelo needs a win to boost his confidence after the Bivol embarassment. Not a lock though, even at 40 GGG is still better than most. He might have learned some tips how to beat Canelo, who knows. (Even though I thought he won the 1st clear and 2nd close)

[margaret thatcher]

tbh i wouldnt be surprised if it's still canelo next, if anything canelo losing makes it seem more competitive, though i still think nelo would beat him up

if ggg aint going to fight canelo, which is what he's mainly been held around for, they might as well finally throw him to mungy then . try to make mung the next generation canelo

[ironbeard]

Jermell

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Charlo or mung

He isnt fighting andrade

[Mexi-Box]

Charlo or mung

He isnt fighting andrade

More like Andrade is not fighting him. Andrade isn't fighting anyone with a pulse.

[margaret thatcher]

why would they match him with andrade when dazn backed mung is there as a much younger, more marketable guy than poo poo at the same weight. boost his jr canelo status by beating ggg. only reason i think mung-ggg hasnt happened yet is because ggg was being kept around for canelo 3. if that doesnt happen, i'll go with it being mung-ggg, which i'd love tbh

charlo is on the other side of the street and him vs benavidez is getting all the 'beef' atm

[apollo creed]

Charlo or mung

He isnt fighting andrade

More like Andrade is not fighting him. Andrade isn't fighting anyone with a pulse.

Andrade is waiting for Canelo forever.

[apollo creed]

why would they match him with andrade when dazn backed mung is there as a much younger, more marketable guy than poo poo at the same weight. boost his jr canelo status by beating ggg. only reason i think mung-ggg hasnt happened yet is because ggg was being kept around for canelo 3. if that doesnt happen, i'll go with it being mung-ggg, which i'd love tbh

charlo is on the other side of the street and him vs benavidez is getting all the 'beef' atm

GGG vs Munguia or Eubank jr if he finds his pen.

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve raised this on a couple of threads but no-one’s feeling me.
So another go.
If it’s not Canelo, who will it be ?
I say unification with Andrade on DAZN.
If not, then who else ?

Andrade won't fight GGG nor Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. Demetrius be stripped of his WBO world middleweight title soon and Matchroom no longer wants to work with him.

Chris Eubank Jr. is a low-risk commercially attractive option for GGG.

Felix Cash is highly-rated by the IBF and might provide a decent payday.

He's an unbeaten fighter, but appears to be UK domestic level and was decked twice, suffered a cut and was penalised a point for excessive holding during his most recent outing.

The Brits love GGG, which means that limited fighters like Eubank Jr. and Cash should be ideal safe stay-busy bouts for Gennadiy.

GGG wants the Canelo rematch, because it's the biggest payday, so he won't take any high-risk moderate to low-reward type bouts that could potentially scupper that opportunity.

[apollo creed]

I’ve raised this on a couple of threads but no-one’s feeling me.
So another go.
If it’s not Canelo, who will it be ?
I say unification with Andrade on DAZN.
If not, then who else ?

Andrade won't fight GGG nor Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. Demetrius be stripped of his WBO world middleweight title soon and Matchroom no longer wants to work with him.

Chris Eubank Jr. is a low-risk commercially attractive option for GGG.

Felix Cash is highly-rated by the IBF and might provide a decent payday.

He's an unbeaten fighter, but appears to be UK domestic level and was decked twice, suffered a cut and was penalised a point for excessive holding during his most recent outing.

The Brits love GGG, which means that limited fighters like Eubank Jr. and Cash should be ideal safe stay-busy bouts for Gennadiy.

GGG wants the Canelo rematch, because it's the biggest payday, so he won't take any high-risk moderate to low-reward type bouts that could potentially scupper that opportunity.

True. Andrada may be the son of Sven Ottke.

EO do you have that link from wbo about Andrada ?

[Enlightened-One]

I’ve raised this on a couple of threads but no-one’s feeling me.
So another go.
If it’s not Canelo, who will it be ?
I say unification with Andrade on DAZN.
If not, then who else ?

Andrade won't fight GGG nor Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. Demetrius be stripped of his WBO world middleweight title soon and Matchroom no longer wants to work with him.

Chris Eubank Jr. is a low-risk commercially attractive option for GGG.

Felix Cash is highly-rated by the IBF and might provide a decent payday.

He's an unbeaten fighter, but appears to be UK domestic level and was decked twice, suffered a cut and was penalised a point for excessive holding during his most recent outing.

The Brits love GGG, which means that limited fighters like Eubank Jr. and Cash should be ideal safe stay-busy bouts for Gennadiy.

GGG wants the Canelo rematch, because it's the biggest payday, so he won't take any high-risk moderate to low-reward type bouts that could potentially scupper that opportunity.

True. Andrada may be the son of Sven Ottke.

EO do you have that link from wbo about Andrada ?

https://www.wboboxing.com/wbo-official- ... s-andrade/

There are more articles from the WBO covering Andrade's inactivity and ducking of Korobov.

[Thomastearns]

why would they match him with andrade when dazn backed mung is there as a much younger, more marketable guy than poo poo at the same weight. boost his jr canelo status by beating ggg. only reason i think mung-ggg hasnt happened yet is because ggg was being kept around for canelo 3. if that doesnt happen, i'll go with it being mung-ggg, which i'd love tbh

charlo is on the other side of the street and him vs benavidez is getting all the 'beef' atm

GGG vs Munguia or Eubank jr if he finds his pen.

With Eubank Jr's improvement and GGGs decline, this is the obvious fight.

Easy to make and the UK would be happy to play host.

Of course, everything still depends upon what Cinnamon wants.

It would be great to see how Canelo, and possibly his camp, are going to reach their decision.

If Bivol wants to play tough with the purse split and other details such as judges and venue then who knows?

In any case I can't see any any reason for Bivol to drop to SMW unless ALL the belts are on the line.

[margaret thatcher]

eubank's improvement lol

there's a couple posters here oddly obsessed with that fight, i doubt it ever happens

[apollo creed]

Andrade won't fight GGG nor Zhanibek Alimkhanuly. Demetrius be stripped of his WBO world middleweight title soon and Matchroom no longer wants to work with him.

Chris Eubank Jr. is a low-risk commercially attractive option for GGG.

Felix Cash is highly-rated by the IBF and might provide a decent payday.

He's an unbeaten fighter, but appears to be UK domestic level and was decked twice, suffered a cut and was penalised a point for excessive holding during his most recent outing.

The Brits love GGG, which means that limited fighters like Eubank Jr. and Cash should be ideal safe stay-busy bouts for Gennadiy.

GGG wants the Canelo rematch, because it's the biggest payday, so he won't take any high-risk moderate to low-reward type bouts that could potentially scupper that opportunity.

True. Andrada may be the son of Sven Ottke.

EO do you have that link from wbo about Andrada ?

https://www.wboboxing.com/wbo-official- ... s-andrade/

There are more articles from the WBO covering Andrade's inactivity and ducking of Korobov.

Resolution to vacate WBO Jr. Middleweight Title of Demetrius Andrade
FRIDAY, JULY 31, 2015
WBO-vacate-andrade
Resolution of the WBO World Championship Committee to vacate the WBO Jr. Middleweight Title of Demetrius Andrade
WHEREAS, on Saturday, November 9, 2013 at the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, Texas, Demetrius Andrade earned a split-decision victory over Vanes Martirosyan to become the WBO Jr. Middleweight Champion of the World; and,

WHEREAS, on Saturday, June 6, 2014 at the Barclays Center in New York— almost seven months after winning the vacant WBO Jr. Middleweight— Andrade defeated mandatory challenger Brian Rose via TKO in round 7 to retain his title; and,

WHEREAS, on September 10, 2014, this WBO World Championship Committee ruled in Mr. Andrade’s favor upon receiving a petition to allow him to move up in weight and immediately vie for the vacant WBO Middleweight Championship of the World against Matt Korobov, giving the parties fifteen (15) days to reach an agreement; and,

WHEREAS, at the end of that negotiation period on September 25, 2014, it came to our knowledge that Mr. Andrade was interested in defending his Jr. Middleweight title and, therefore, wanted to stay within his division and no longer compete for Middleweight title; and,

WHEREAS, Mr. Andrade was next scheduled to defend his belt against Jermell Charlo on December 13, 2014 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada, but the agreement was never finalized and Andrade pulled out of the fight on November 17, 2014; and,

WHEREAS, on January 23, 2015, this WBO World Championship Committee wrote to Messrs. Pelullo and De Guardia— Andrade’s co-promoters— again, advising them that parties had thirty (30) days to negotiate an agreement for the WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship bout between Mr. Andrade and Jermell Charlo and stating that a purse bid would be ordered if an accord was not reached within the time frame; and,

WHEREAS, WBO President Valcarcel subsequently received email correspondence from Mr. Pelullo on February 19, 2015 notifying the WBO that Charlo elected not to fight Andrade, but that Stephen Espinoza of Showtime was looking into Erislandy Lara as a challenger to Andrade for a date in April or in any case no later than May; and,

WHEREAS, on April 15, 2015 WBO President Valcarcel once more wrote to Mr. Andrade’s promoters, asking for confirmation of his plans and updating that while the WBO was originally willing to allow a voluntary defense of the belt, the Jr. Middleweight division could no longer be kept inactive and that a mandatory defense was in order; and,

WHEREAS, Mr. Pelullo responded to the April 15 communication and advised that he was to meet with Mr. Andrade during that same week setting June 29 as a potential date to face Liam Smith in a voluntary defense, a fight that we were willing to sanction; and,

WHEREAS, President Valcarcel again followed up with Andrade’s promoters on May 12, 2015 advising them of Section 20 of the WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests; i.e. PROCEDURE WHEN A TITLE IS DECLARED VACANT, and requesting that they provide the WBO with contracts for the next Andrade bout within a period of forty-eight (48) hours; and,

WHEREAS, On July 15th 2015 this WBO World Championship Committee sent a letter giving Demetrius Andrade a period of ten (10) days or until July 25th 2015 to show cause as to why Mr. Andrade has not defended his WBO Jr. Middleweight Championship of the World under the terms of the WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests; and,

WHEREAS, on July 20th, the WBO received an email requesting “an additional 10 days to August 4th to respond to the letter [to show cause as to why Mr. Andrade’s title should not be vacated] as a lot of things are in motion that cannot be divulged at this time;” and,

WHEREAS, the WBO Championship Committee granted Mr. Andrade and his promoters an additional five (5) days or until July 30th as the final day to show cause, but adamantly expressed that further extensions would be granted; and,

WHEREAS, on July 29, 2015 the WBO World Championship Committee received a letter from Arthur Pelullo, from Banner Promotions, on behalf of Star Boxing’s Joe De Guardia and their fighter, Demetrius Andrade, advising us that “[t]his past fall, a rival promotional company misled and convinced Demetrius into not taking the Charlo fight that was scheduled for December 13, 2014 on Showtime in Las Vegas, Nevada at the MGM Grand” and that “[t]hat company tortuously interfered with the exclusive promotional agreement that Banner Promotions and Star Boxing have with Demetrius Andrade, which is still in full force and effect;” and,

WHEREAS, Pelullo further advised us that a complaint was filed against the other promotional company for alleged tortious interference with an existing contractual relationship; and,

WHEREAS, this WBO World Championship Committee has thoroughly reviewed all of the documents received on July 29, 2015, including letters from Mr. Pelullo, Andrade’s manager Edward Farris, Andrade himself, as well as the complaint filed in the New York Supreme Court, we are not moved to consider the reasons contained therein to constitute “just cause” for Mr. Andrade’s failure to comply with our Regulations of World Championship Contests; and,

WHEREAS, the WBO has been more than lenient with Mr. Andrade, but he has clearly been inactive and in the context of all of the above has defended his title only once— against Brian Rose— since first obtaining it 19 months ago on November 9, 2013; and,

WHEREAS, the WBO World Championship Committee has full authority, as per our WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests to resolve this matter and may, within our powers and discretion according to Section 1 (b) (7) of the aforementioned Regulations, “recommend to the President and the Executive Committee that a Title should be vacated if a Champion fails to comply with the WBO World Championship Rules (Emphasis added); and,

WHEREAS, Section 1 (b) 21 provides that a title may be vacated regardless of cause or fault if the Champion has not defended within a nine (9) month period (Emphasis added); and,

WHEREAS, Section 20 outlines the procedure when a title is declared vacant, stating that “[a] World Championship may be lost for breach of contract, for disability to fight or make required weight, inactivity, or for any other reason established in the regulations that govern World Championships (Emphasis added);” and,

WHEREAS, the WBO acknowledges Mr. Andrade’s qualities as a fighter, his outstanding amateur background as a two-time national Golden Gloves champion, winner of the world championships in 2007, that he represented the United States in the 2008 Olympics; and,

WHEREAS, the WBO further recognizes Mr. Andrade’s potential as a professional fighter, his ability to be a champion for a long time, and that he may, in fact, have been misadvised during his WBO Championship reign, we are invariably bound by and must enforce our Rules and Regulations.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the WBO World Championship Committee according to our Regulations that:

The WBO World Championship Committee is allowed no other alternative but to recommend that the WBO Executive Committee immediately cease to recognize Mr. Demetrius Andrade as the WBO Jr. Middleweight Champion of the World and vacate his title, for failing to comply with our WBO Regulations of World Championship Contests.
This is a final decision of the WBO World Championship Committee. The affected WBO Participant may appeal to the Complaint and Grievance Committee, pursuant to WBO World Championship Section 34, which as per Rule 3(e) of the WBO Appeals Regulation, must be submitted in writing to the WBO President within fourteen (14) days of the date of this decision as its sole and exclusive remedy.

[apollo creed]

So basically DA was taking wbo for a ride, delaying as much as he could some intriguing fights with Charlo and Korobov by using some silly excuses, just to stay safe and keep fighting stiffs, maybe he'd get Canelo or GGG.

As well, Andrada vs Lara in 2015 would've been a top fight at 154. Meanwhile Andrada was yapping around that nobody wants to fight him and he is so avoided. lol

[apollo creed]

eubank's improvement lol

there's a couple posters here oddly obsessed with that fight, i doubt it ever happens

True. I doubt it happens.

Munguia and Canelo III are on GGG's wishlist. G probably has 2 more fights on DAZN.

[daz74]

GGG waited ages to get that shot of a 2nd belt, I bet he’d love to get a shot at a 3rd belt
Currently the 3rd belt is in someone’s possession, it’s not vacant.
Unification fights are easy to sell ….

[margaret thatcher]

i dont think winning another belt would be a big deal for him, he's been a 3 belt champ before

mung-ggg's much bigger than ggg-andrade. the young marketable dude with the warrior ko style, not the 34 year old coaster with 3 fans. dazn can build a new star out of it. even ed threw his hands up because there wasnt much to be done with boo boo

[Bandog]

GGG, Cabelo, or Charlo will never fight Andrade, because they know it's high risk.

If they were confident of winning, they'd fight him. For sure Fielding. Khan, Vanes, Rolls, Monteil, etc deserved the fights.

Don't make yourselves look stupid.

[KiwiRider]

Charlo or mung

He isnt fighting andrade

More like Andrade is not fighting him. Andrade isn't fighting anyone with a pulse.

Andrade is waiting for Canelo forever.

So true.
He wasn't listening when Canelo said " You guys better fight each other instead of waiting for me.."
Andrade is wasting his career and earning potential waiting for a payday that will likely never come.
He is boring to watch, Canelo fans don't want to see that, and neither do I.
Andrade is best to get busy, have as many smaller paydays as he can, before he gets too old. Reflex fighters like him get old overnight, and he is of no value if he loses his belt.

[Bandog]

More like Andrade is not fighting him. Andrade isn't fighting anyone with a pulse.

Andrade is waiting for Canelo forever.

So true.
He wasn't listening when Canelo said " You guys better fight each other instead of waiting for me.."
Andrade is wasting his career and earning potential waiting for a payday that will likely never come.
He is boring to watch, Canelo fans don't want to see that, and neither do I.
Andrade is best to get busy, have as many smaller paydays as he can, before he gets too old. Reflex fighters like him get old overnight, and he is of no value if he loses his belt.

You tell me, what should he do? Had no takers to unify at 154 or 160. Offered Mall Charlo $7million, Canelo $40 mil. Both took other fights for less money. Called out GGG multiple times. Give and move up is what he did. Champs should fight champs. Eubank Jr wasn't interested either. BJS pissed hot to get out of it. I'm just interested on seeing him tested, win or lose. Hope he fights Benevidez.
Mall Charlo says now he's avoided?

[KiwiRider]

Andrade is waiting for Canelo forever.

So true.
He wasn't listening when Canelo said " You guys better fight each other instead of waiting for me.."
Andrade is wasting his career and earning potential waiting for a payday that will likely never come.
He is boring to watch, Canelo fans don't want to see that, and neither do I.
Andrade is best to get busy, have as many smaller paydays as he can, before he gets too old. Reflex fighters like him get old overnight, and he is of no value if he loses his belt.

You tell me, what should he do? Had no takers to unify at 154 or 160. Offered Mall Charlo $7million, Canelo $40 mil. Both took other fights for less money. Called out GGG multiple times. Give and move up is what he did. Champs should fight champs. Eubank Jr wasn't interested either. BJS pissed hot to get out of it. I'm just interested on seeing him tested, win or lose. Hope he fights Benevidez.
Mall Charlo says now he's avoided?

He should stop being so damn boring for a start. Engage in fights, don't do "just enough", if your on top of an opponent - then knock them the heck out! Force unification by beating everyone up to #1 contender status and force the fights to happen. Make it so there isn't anyone left but you.
Win some fans by getting out there more, entertaining in the ring. Take less money but fight more often and give some of your share to buy better opponents.

[Mexi-Box]

IIRC, Andrade was supposed to fight Korobov, ducked, then Korobov fought Lee and the rest is history. I think I got that timeline right. Too bad it never happened. Korobov would've drowned Andrade. Andrade doesn't have the power to stop him and good luck outboxing Korobov.

[daz74]

Hearn today;
there’s no way GGG fighting Eubank, if Canelo 3 doesn’t get made, then GGG will unify the division.

so what’s more likely:
GGG v Charlo
GGG v Andrade

?