Fighters you were wrong about

[jezzamundo]

Which boxers' careers were you way off-base about in your early assessments of them?

Two that come to my mind are David Price and Tyson Fury. At the end of 2012 I favoured Price if the two fought and thought he was the better prospect. I saw Fury as a relatively light-hitting, undisciplined, weak-chinned heavyweight, who arguably lost to John McDermott and got knocked down by small heavyweights. Price had much better power, smmed better disciplined and I thought he would knock Fury out.

As it turns out, Price was the fragile one (both chin and mentally) while Fury was a work in progress with great ability.

[Ruthless-RKO]

You won’t be the only one with that ..

[H8Usernames]

Vasili Lomachenko. I thought that the fellow was just some disgusting eastern european hypejob and in a way I was right I suppose but it isn't his fault that the right competition wasn't present at his prime weightclasses. The guy is an artist and a truly great fighter.

[lazboy]

Canelo. I didn’t recognise his talent prior to the Golovkin fights. I thought he was very good but not special.

[jezzamundo]

Canelo. I didn’t recognise his talent prior to the Golovkin fights. I thought he was very good but not special.

He's special but he's also been overrated IMO. I thought he lost the first GGG fight clearly, but performed way better in the rematch, which I scored a draw.

[margaret thatcher]

ya, canelo is a stud and proved to be better than many thought he'd ever be........ but some people also really got carried away with him the last year or so. absolute madness about him beating usyk and bashing up heavys, and other comic book sh!t like that

[Ruthless-RKO]

ya, canelo is a stud and proved to be better than many thought he'd ever be........ but some people also really got carried away with him the last year or so. absolute madness about him beating usyk and bashing up heavys, and other comic book sh!t like that

Well the run he was on and he was a favourite vs. Bivol wasn’t he.

There’s always gonna be talk.

I thought it was mad shit as wel tbh, but people like to Talk

[Perseus]

Dominick Guinn

[lazboy]

I was wrong about Choclatito. I thought it was a case of one weight class too high, one war too many, after his demolition by Sor Rung. He’s certainly proved me wrong on many occasions since.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I was wrong about Choclatito. I thought it was a case of one weight class too high, one war too many, after his demolition by Sor Rung. He’s certainly proved me wrong on many occasions since.

He’s had a good string of wins eh. And his only loss since was a controversial one.

He’s another Donaire. He doesn’t seem like he’s slowing down.

[lazboy]

I was wrong about Choclatito. I thought it was a case of one weight class too high, one war too many, after his demolition by Sor Rung. He’s certainly proved me wrong on many occasions since.

He’s had a good string of wins eh. And his only loss since was a controversial one.

He’s another Donaire. He doesn’t seem like he’s slowing down.

100% brother.

[Fightnight Scores]

Which boxers' careers were you way off-base about in your early assessments of them?

Two that come to my mind are David Price and Tyson Fury. At the end of 2012 I favoured Price if the two fought and thought he was the better prospect. I saw Fury as a relatively light-hitting, undisciplined, weak-chinned heavyweight, who arguably lost to John McDermott and got knocked down by small heavyweights. Price had much better power, smmed better disciplined and I thought he would knock Fury out.

As it turns out, Price was the fragile one (both chin and mentally) while Fury was a work in progress with great ability.

I'll hold up my hand with this one as well.
Was also wrong about Haye when he moved up to Heavyweight. Thought he had the tools to dethrone Wlad. But he turned into a bit of an embarrassment from there.
In a similar vein I thought Yarde could go far for a time

[Enlightened-One]

Which boxers' careers were you way off-base about in your early assessments of them?

I grossly underrated Joe Joyce when I first watched him compete, but my opinion changed from 2019 onwards.

And I was definitely one of the very few people that expected him to defy the overwhelming betting odds to upset the huge favourite, Daniel Dubois.

And whilst I've been aware of Zhanibek Alimkhanuly’s reputation since 2018 and also watched snippets of his bouts, I wrongly assumed he was a tad feather-fisted (based on him only scoring five KO’s during the first nine bouts of his career) and I also considered the Kazakhstani to be a very slight underdog for the Rob Brant fight.

That said, from June 2021, I performed a lot of research on Zhanibek Alimkhanuly and then I became a huge fan of his.

And I now consider myself as one of the very first passengers of the Alimkhanuly hype train.

[tiny_acres]

Dominick Guinn

Dude I was his biggest supporter. I thought for sure he was the next great heavyweight. A guaranteed future world champion.
Well not the first time I've been wrong and won't be the last

[Perseus]

Dominick Guinn

Dude I was his biggest supporter. I thought for sure he was the next great heavyweight. A guaranteed future world champion.
Well not the first time I've been wrong and won't be the last

Same here.

[sibbo]

Yeah gotta hold my hands up about Fury and Price..... I though Price was a dead cert champ of the future as long as the rumours about his chin weren't true, and I thought fury was gonna get stretched out in spectacular fashion when he stepped up to championship level.... Funny old game.

[Enlightened-One]

I forgot to say, I grossly underestimated the young pre-2007 iteration of Carl Froch.

Even though he kept failing the proverbial “eye test”, he continued beating everyone he faced.

It wasn’t until 2009 when it suddenly dawned on me that Froch was simply an unorthodox deceptively elusive heavy-handed teak tough highly-effective fighter.

He was definitely an overachiever that didn’t know how to lose.

And even if he was being out-boxed and behind on the judges’ scorecards, he usually found a way to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

[Syntax Error]

Conor Benn - I thought he'd fall like a leaf in Autumn.

OK, he hasn't reached the pinnacle, but he's a lot better than I thought he'd ever be.

[Enlightened-One]

Conor Benn - I thought he'd fall like a leaf in Autumn.

OK, he hasn't reached the pinnacle, but he's a lot better than I thought he'd ever be.

The jury is still out or me when it comes to Conor Benn.

It just can’t get over the fact that Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

His last five opponents were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, when they entered the ring.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace, especially when you consider how aggressive Matchroom were with the likes of Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.

I feel that six years is a long time and he’s been treading water for quite a while now.

According to the rumour-mill, Eddie Hearn is planning to pit Jose Ramirez against Conor Benn on the 9th July, with the American previously competing at 140lbs for his entire career and will be competing against the Brit outside of his natural habitat.

But if this fight doesn’t happen, then this will suggest that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn.

[cpx2]

The jury is still out or me when it comes to Conor Benn.

It just can’t get over the fact that Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

His last five opponents were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, when they entered the ring.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace, especially when you consider how aggressive Matchroom were with the likes of Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.

I feel that six years is a long time and he’s been treading water for quite a while now.

According to the rumour-mill, Eddie Hearn is planning to pit Jose Ramirez against Conor Benn on the 9th July, with the American previously competing at 140lbs for his entire career and will be competing against the Brit outside of his natural habitat.

But if this fight doesn’t happen, then this will suggest that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn.

Think from what we've heard Chisora's likely to be that July 9th date. From the interviews I've seen I think Cash-Szeremeta is being lined up, and I'd guess it'll be chief support.

Benn will probably be out in August or September, and Danny Garcia seems likely. Would've preferred Danny Garcia against Brook at 154, but Kell's retired. Ideally Thurman fights Ennis and Benn fights Avanesyan, but that seems unlikely.

[caldo2025]

Canelo. I didn’t recognise his talent prior to the Golovkin fights. I thought he was very good but not special.

That’s my choice too man. I got a little fed up with his scorecards prior to the GGG fights and then those 2 decisions made me sick with the sport and Canelo for some reason. Like it was his fault. Lol. But since the last GGG fight, Canelo went on a run that was unrivaled in the history of Boxing. He basically took out most of the top boxers within what I feel are the toughest weight classes to compete in. I find it be more impressive than the record Manny has for division titles. Just because I feel it’s easier for 100 pounders to fight on up the scale as they get older until they reach 147. I think that’s where the the going gets much tougher. Each of Canelo’s jumps up in weight were more significant and difficult imo.

[margaret thatcher]

The jury is still out or me when it comes to Conor Benn.

It just can’t get over the fact that Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

His last five opponents were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, when they entered the ring.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace, especially when you consider how aggressive Matchroom were with the likes of Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.

I feel that six years is a long time and he’s been treading water for quite a while now.

According to the rumour-mill, Eddie Hearn is planning to pit Jose Ramirez against Conor Benn on the 9th July, with the American previously competing at 140lbs for his entire career and will be competing against the Brit outside of his natural habitat.

But if this fight doesn’t happen, then this will suggest that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn.

Think from what we've heard Chisora's likely to be that July 9th date. From the interviews I've seen I think Cash-Szeremeta is being lined up, and I'd guess it'll be chief support.

Benn will probably be out in August or September, and Danny Garcia seems likely. Would've preferred Danny Garcia against Brook at 154, but Kell's retired. Ideally Thurman fights Ennis and Benn fights Avanesyan, but that seems unlikely.

what makes you think danny garcia is likely?

[scallum]

David Reid and Adrien Broner are two guys I thought would be great

[oogiebe]

tyson Fury
Tye Fields

[Mexi-Box]

I thought Verdejo would be a big star and go further than Valdez.