David Benavidez vs. David Lemieux | Showtime - May 21, 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 May 2022, 20:37

Benavidez - Decision
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11%
Benavidez - T/KO
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78%
DRAW
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Lemieux - T/KO
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Lemieux - Decision
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Total votes: 45

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KiwiRider wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:01
Mexi-Box wrote: 22 May 2022, 00:32 Man, Benavidez is the real deal. Holy crap, Lemiux was never in that. Brave show of heart, but it should've been ended in the second. Lemiux literally blocked every uppercut with his face. Benavidez just couldn't miss.

Canelo/Benavidez would be a barn-burner. The hand speed on display would be insane.
If he is the real deal, how come he is fighting the ghost of Lemieux in his 40th (fortieth) fight and no belt around his waist yet?
Who’s on their 40th?

Lem is over 40 pro fights and Beni is on 26..
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I see Benavidez had a lot of rambunctious haters.
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nah, just want a talented dude to fight better opposition, rather than the trash he's been feasting on. that's not #hating #haterz

it's hard not to LOL when people try to act like ron ellis, kyrone davis, roamer angulo, ronny gavril, davey, etc is really the best available opposition, talk about reaching :lol:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:05
KiwiRider wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:01
Mexi-Box wrote: 22 May 2022, 00:32 Man, Benavidez is the real deal. Holy crap, Lemiux was never in that. Brave show of heart, but it should've been ended in the second. Lemiux literally blocked every uppercut with his face. Benavidez just couldn't miss.

Canelo/Benavidez would be a barn-burner. The hand speed on display would be insane.
If he is the real deal, how come he is fighting the ghost of Lemieux in his 40th (fortieth) fight and no belt around his waist yet?
Who’s on their 40th?

Lem is over 40 pro fights and Beni is on 26..
Doh! Edit.
Was thinking of Ramirez.
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KiwiRider wrote: 22 May 2022, 21:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:05
KiwiRider wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:01

If he is the real deal, how come he is fighting the ghost of Lemieux in his 40th (fortieth) fight and no belt around his waist yet?
Who’s on their 40th?

Lem is over 40 pro fights and Beni is on 26..
Doh! Edit.
Was thinking of Ramirez.
Haha :lol:
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lemieux is irrelevant at 168 so beating him in such an easy fashion is also irrelevant .
Benavidez needs to fight against proper opposition or just dont bother wasting our time .
Even the youtube higlights were bad - total one side beat down .
lemieux had no business being in the ring .
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KiwiRider wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:01
Mexi-Box wrote: 22 May 2022, 00:32 Man, Benavidez is the real deal. Holy crap, Lemiux was never in that. Brave show of heart, but it should've been ended in the second. Lemiux literally blocked every uppercut with his face. Benavidez just couldn't miss.

Canelo/Benavidez would be a barn-burner. The hand speed on display would be insane.
If he is the real deal, how come no belt around his waist yet?
To be fair, he had the belt around his waist twice, losing it for cocain and not making weight. He was the youngest ever in history to get a 168lb belt. Like DB said, the money and fame doesn't come with instructions when in your early 20s.
Not saying hes the best, but willing to fight aanyoneat 168 to find out.
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Mexi-Box wrote: 22 May 2022, 19:14 I see Benavidez had a lot of rambunctious haters.

Sadly this is what we we're used to seeing nowadays amongst the boxing community.

If Benavidez was sitting on a bunch of belts and then carefully cherry picking opponents above and below, then they might have had a point.

However, as things stand Benavidez is an up and coming fighter who's making waves and attempting to blast his way to the top.

You'd think that his attitude could only be applauded, but alas no.

Unfortunately there seems to be some fans that are incredibly miserly in the appreciation for what others might see as apparent greatness in the making.

I suspect some folks wouldn't even be impressed if he went on to knock out both Bivol and Canelo in the 12 months!

How any true fan of boxing can hate on the likes of GGG, Inoue, Benavidez etc is an equation that makes no sense.

Then again, history shows that even Ali and Tyson had their critics during their careers. It must take an awful awful lot to please some people.
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tyson was a weakly minded angry robot programmed to bully clowns, cans and bums.

lost all the 'real fights' that he had. couldn't overcome 'real opposition' if his life depended on it.

an absolute boxing failure. Ali too. don't let me start about him... hyped up bums. no good.🤣
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benavidez hasnt even been able to sit on a belt, because he loses it quickly each time he gets it, the first time for being a coke head the second time for being overweight. he's only ever made 1 title defense - vs ron gavril. so impressive! :lol:

ya, he's really blazing an ambitious trail, facing the murderer's row of ronny gavril, ron ellis, ,kyrone davis, porkfat medina, roamer angulo, and an 8 years removed from his prime david lemieux who he was a 40-1 fave over. only a #hater would want him to fight better opposition lol
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margaret thatcher wrote: 23 May 2022, 14:51 benavidez hasnt even been able to sit on a belt, because he loses it quickly each time he gets it, the first time for being a coke head the second time for being overweight. he's only ever made 1 title defense - vs ron gavril. so impressive! :lol:

ya, he's really blazing an ambitious trail, facing the murderer's row of ronny gavril, ron ellis, ,kyrone davis, porkfat medina, roamer angulo, and an 8 years removed from his prime david lemieux who he was a 40-1 fave over. only a #hater would want him to fight better opposition lol
Was Dirrell a good win? I noticed you always forget to mention him.
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Bandog wrote: 23 May 2022, 19:42
margaret thatcher wrote: 23 May 2022, 14:51 benavidez hasnt even been able to sit on a belt, because he loses it quickly each time he gets it, the first time for being a coke head the second time for being overweight. he's only ever made 1 title defense - vs ron gavril. so impressive! :lol:

ya, he's really blazing an ambitious trail, facing the murderer's row of ronny gavril, ron ellis, ,kyrone davis, porkfat medina, roamer angulo, and an 8 years removed from his prime david lemieux who he was a 40-1 fave over. only a #hater would want him to fight better opposition lol
Was Dirrell a good win? I noticed you always forget to mention him.
dirrell was his best win by far, and im on record giving props for that fight. if they were all like that it wouldnt be an issue, yet 4 straight fights since were crap. out of 26 fights he's fought 1 half decent opponent. too bad he's fought such crap otherwise. not even 2nd tier guys, but guys way down the line

like, instead of fighting ron ellis for example, why not fight a guy who 10-0'd ron ellis - chris mbili? instead of porkfat medina, what about a guy who 11-1'd porkster - caleb plant? what about a guy who blew through c level smws and gave zurdo 2 tough nights - jesse hart? what about a guy who 12-0'd lemieux already - saunders? why not turn the beef with mall into an all pbc super fight? what about ryder, jacobs, morrell? you say andrade will fight anyone and is at smw now, so why not andrade?

there a bunch of guys out there who would be decent fights, but instead he's on this streak of weak sh!t. i mean guys like this are just laughable for such a hyped dude: ron gavril, ronny ellis, roamer angulo, porkfat, loverboi, kyrone, an 8 years past his prime lemieux - who in his prime and at his best weight couldnt win 5 seconds vs ggg or saunders
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Terrific & impressive win by DB, Lemieux still carries serious power, although obviously some of the posters on here could take his punches at super middleweight without blinking I’m sure, being 8 years past his prime :D

Sometimes it’s not who you beat so much as the way you do it, and DB has the aura of a serious bad ass. Time will tell, but I’d put my money on this guy taking out some of the top boys :TU:
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ya, lemieux has just been laying everyone out at 168, like when he got dropped twice and got a hometown split decision over max bursak :lol:

oddsmakers actually had their names reversed when making benavidez a 40-1 fave
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Yah bruv, cause no one ever had an off night and there’s no way a massive hitter can take his power up 8lbs :lol:
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MightyWarrior wrote: 24 May 2022, 03:38 Yah bruv, cause no one ever had an off night and there’s no way a massive hitter can take his power up 8lbs :lol:
arty abraham sure had a drop off :TU:

lem's never ko'd anyone remotely decent at 168, so not sure where this evidence is that he's still some massive hitter. he did barely win a split over a c level fighter though, amazing form isnt it, so impressive that the bookies had benavidez a 40-1 fave

maybe bjs and lem could rematch at smw now and lem could actually win 10 seconds of the fight
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He was a 40-1 fave really ? I don’t think you mentioned that before :D So was Buster Douglas baby, Odds don’t mean a lot when you get clocked on the chin, that’s why it’s called a punchers chance ?

You know, like that huge puncher Danny Dignum

Benavidez looks the real deal, Just let us all know when you come round to the viewpoint it’ll be a big relief all round :box:
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MightyWarrior wrote: 24 May 2022, 04:48 He was a 40-1 fave really ? I don’t think you mentioned that before :D So was Buster Douglas baby, Odds don’t mean a lot when you get clocked on the chin, that’s why it’s called a punchers chance ?

You know, like that huge puncher Danny Dignum

Benavidez looks the real deal, Just let us all know when you come round to the viewpoint it’ll be a big relief all round :box:
benny's good, never said otherwise, he just needs to stop the can crushing. for a super hyped guy who's been a 2x champ and been on the scene for several years now it's been awful. maybe fight an actual top smw or a guy who totally clowned lem, instead of lem and guys pulled out from the c ranks of the division like he's so fond of. maybe also put together a title reign without getting stripped because he has no discipline

speaking of diggy, i wonder if janibek's team are finally done with that awful, awful, meanie celebrating they were doing lol
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MightyWarrior wrote: 24 May 2022, 01:46 Terrific & impressive win by DB, Lemieux still carries serious power, although obviously some of the posters on here could take his punches at super middleweight without blinking I’m sure, being 8 years past his prime :D

Sometimes it’s not who you beat so much as the way you do it, and DB has the aura of a serious bad ass. Time will tell, but I’d put my money on this guy taking out some of the top boys :TU:
Exactly this! People are acting like Uzcategui, who is completely shot, is a better fighter because he beat Dirrell a long time ago. Lemiux was the best fighter that Benavidez could've taken at the time. He has a big name with a puncher's chance.

It's not like 168 is stacked either if we're talking about Mbili (who literally has only beaten a completely shot Mohammedi) as a serious threat :OhYes: .
That dangerous Mbili is who Benavidez should be targeting with his 0.5 fan following! I'm sure it'll do big numbers on Showtime. Please...
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you're right, much better that benavidez instead fought a guy mbili 10-0'd, who according to you must be even worse than a shot mohamedi. he only fights the best around doesnt he, already a 2x champ and still fighting guys worse than a shot nadjib by your logic lol

maybe they'll get max bursak next, to keep it on a similar level to 'best available' lemieux
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margaret thatcher wrote: 24 May 2022, 23:33 you're right, much better that benavidez instead fought a guy mbili 10-0'd, who according to you must be even worse than a shot mohamedi. he only fights the best around doesnt he, already a 2x champ and still fighting guys worse than a shot nadjib by your logic lol

maybe they'll get max bursak next, to keep it on a similar level to 'best available' lemieux
Like, if he chose to fight Edgar Berlanga in a big fight, you'll probably be hating that he didn't fight Morell in front of his 10 fans. You'd be a terrible promoter. Yeah, don't fight former world champion Lemiux, fight Mbili in front of 10 fans. Maybe Mbili's mom will show up and we can get 11!

Just have Benavidez fight all the unknown prospects. Forget about getting big names to get his hype up. Everyone is dying for him to fight Morell and Mbili!
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Berlanga - hey, there's another good one :TU:

I've named plenty of opponents, its on record. any one of them next and im not complaining, come back and quote this if i do.

but how silly is it to piss on a guy like mbili, when a guy mbili shuts out 10-0 is good enough for dave - he who only fights the best available! :lol:
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Could have stopped it at the beginning of the 2nd.
The referee was good and did Lemieux a favour in the 3rd.
Clear as day Lemieux was past his best.
Benevidez, got a name scalp with a record didn't he.
First impressions, Benevidez defence looks open, his punch variety is ok and he has the occasional flashy flurry.
Unless you one or two punch Benevidez out in a flash he'll take you more than a few rounds and it'll be hard work but it can be done.
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Evander wrote: 25 May 2022, 02:21 Could have stopped it at the beginning of the 2nd.
The referee was good and did Lemieux a favour in the 3rd.
Clear as day Lemieux was past his best.
Benevidez, got a name scalp with a record didn't he.
First impressions, Benevidez defence looks open, his punch variety is ok and he has the occasional flashy flurry.
Unless you one or two punch Benevidez out in a flash he'll take you more than a few rounds and it'll be hard work but it can be done.
Good luck walking through fire to try and take him out. That hand speed is insane, and he has power. Truly a scary fighter, imo. Outside of an absolute prime Golovkin, I don't know who can beat him.

Granted, I've not seen him against marathon runners like a Lara or Andrade.

It's good that he fought Lemiux because people were saying he had a questionable chin after Gavril.
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