AJ Usyk - June

[Wales]

It’s happening in June

Any chance of redemption for AJ or will Usyk box his way through again ?

[margaret thatcher]

whoever wins, FFS let's get an undisputed title fight next. way tooo much dicking around with these champs staying away from each other. f@cking dudes like wilder and fury fighting falling in love and fighting each other 3 times instead of even 1 undisputed fight. then a rematch of this one instead of uzzy-fury

been way too f@cking long since everything was on the line at hw

[Wales]

Only chance of that is if Whyte beats fury I think.

Win lose or draw I do think Fury will retire, maybe not for good - but for the short term.

If Whyte wins surely Eddie will make Whyte v Usyk / AJ .

If Whyte loses and Fury drops the belt it’s back to the scramble and political chess game of who doesn’t fight who.

Ideal world Fury and Usyk win and face off. But I do think Fury will walk away after Whyte, not forever, but for drop the belt and have couple years out.

Shame as Fury Usyk is intriguing.
Styles make fights and whilst I think Whyte has a real chance against a heavy “go through the motions” Fury. I think Usyk beats him at a canter.

[Wales]

Just think…. Dillion Whyte is only two punches away from being undisputed heavy weight champion of the world

[H8Usernames]

Such nonsense. Tyson Fury is the undisputed heavyweight champion, or does he maybe also need the ibc wbf and wbu titles in order for him to be recognized as such?

[margaret thatcher]

nope, aint undisputed at all with another unbeaten elite heavyweight champ around

[Thomastearns]

Apparently Usyk is going in as favourite if the July 23rd date is confirmed.

Is this a first for AJ?


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[snake33]

Usyk can't KO Joshua, even with his weak chin.
If he goes aggressive like his earlier fights he can win.
That Joshua the boxer thing only worked with Ruiz.
If he can't muster up the courage to do that he should retire.

[margaret thatcher]

Usyk can't KO Joshua, even with his weak chin.
If he goes aggressive like his earlier fights he can win.
That Joshua the boxer thing only worked with Ruiz.
If he can't muster up the courage to do that he should retire.

does poor usyk actually have a chance this time

[snake33]

Usyk can't KO Joshua, even with his weak chin.
If he goes aggressive like his earlier fights he can win.
That Joshua the boxer thing only worked with Ruiz.
If he can't muster up the courage to do that he should retire.

does poor usyk actually have a chance this time

Usyk can win if Joshua is still broken and afraid.
Usyk was very smart. He chose the weak link and got a lot of belts.
However, if he fought all the top heavyweights including Fury he
would lose more than once.
He isn't nearly as good as the fan boys make him out to be.
And he hasn't done nearly enough to be considered a ATG at heavy.
However, he is a brave Ukranian and should be honored for that.

[Mexi-Box]

AJ does better in rematches. Just gut feeling, AJ will go for the KO this time, and either he'll be successful or the judges will gift him a close decision with a few knockdowns. Depends on if Usyk's travel to Ukraine effected him at all.

[margaret thatcher]

he's fought only onc guy twice in the pros hasn't he, against a guy he should've beat easily the first time. pretty small sample size


if you also mean whyte......well that aj was worlds apart from the 2 fight amateur. basically another fighter, not the same guy making adjustments a couple months later

[Mexi-Box]

he's fought once guy twice in the pros hasn't he, against a guy he should've beat easily the first time


if you also mean whyte......well that aj was worlds apart from the 2 fight amateur. basically another fighter, not the same guy making adjustments.

Yeah, I added Whyte because he got stopped, and a lot said Whyte would've done a repeat during the build up. Should've probably clarified. Anyways, I think he does better here.

Also, wtf, Ruiz isn't an fighter that should get beaten easily by anyone. Dude is a top 10 fighter, arguably beat Parker, with the fastest hands at HW. Nothing about Ruiz is easy to beat. Of course, if he isn't 400 lbs.

[margaret thatcher]

nothing about ruiz, except when he's 270 and plods around like an obese walrus wading through treacle

[Verdi]

I think Usyk likely stops him this time. AJ doesn't have the chin to walk through top fighters.

[Thomastearns]

AJ does better in rematches. Just gut feeling, AJ will go for the KO this time, and either he'll be successful or the judges will gift him a close decision with a few knockdowns. Depends on if Usyk's travel to Ukraine effected him at all.

Fair points, and if its in Saudi, then AJ will also have the home advantage.

As for Usyk, it's incredible how he keeps coming through each successive test after another.

It only seems like yesterday we were discussing whether he'd beat Bellew and now look ...

[caldo2025]

I’m hoping we’ve seen the last of AJ’s scientific boxing strategy. I want to see the AJ that’s throwing bombs, getting knocked down and then winning on heart bc that’s his best damn muscle. Huge heart.

AJ’s team’s decision to ignore his obvious advantages over Usyk (size, strength & heart) was one of the dumbest moves I’ve seen in a fight of that magnitude. Bc even with the lame strategy, he did do some serious damage to Usyk. I could be wrong but I’ve never seen Usyk marked up like that but I could be wrong. The old AJ style may have done enough. Who knows though. Maybe instead it would have led to an early KO of himself.

[DrDuke]

I see it almost complete repeat of the 1st one.

[H8Usernames]

I don't think that AJ has any passion for the sport. He will hire a Yes man trainer for the fight with a low networth who will be very interested in the %'s that he gets from the fight. And when the fight ends he will find someone else to blame for his loss.

[Mexi-Box]

I don't think that AJ has any passion for the sport. He will hire a Yes man trainer for the fight with a low networth who will be very interested in the %'s that he gets from the fight. And when the fight ends he will find someone else to blame for his loss.

No way. You can say that about Whyte, but AJ has the fire. Dude lost a ton of weight for Ruiz Jr. and kept to a disciplined strategy. He'll show some more wrinkles. It's up to Usyk to adjust here. I hope he doesn't try to outbox Usyk but outbomb him. Only way he can win is if he goes for the stoppage like he did in the first Ruiz Jr. fight. It backfired there, but can Usyk hurt AJ in the early rounds? I've not seen the fight in a long while, but I remember Usyk hurting him in the later rounds as AJ was looking tired, not early.

[H8Usernames]

I don't think that AJ has any passion for the sport. He will hire a Yes man trainer for the fight with a low networth who will be very interested in the %'s that he gets from the fight. And when the fight ends he will find someone else to blame for his loss.

No way. You can say that about Whyte, but AJ has the fire. Dude lost a ton of weight for Ruiz Jr. and kept to a disciplined strategy. He'll show some more wrinkles. It's up to Usyk to adjust here. I hope he doesn't try to outbox Usyk but outbomb him. Only way he can win is if he goes for the stoppage like he did in the first Ruiz Jr. fight. It backfired there, but can Usyk hurt AJ in the early rounds? I've not seen the fight in a long while, but I remember Usyk hurting him in the later rounds as AJ was looking tired, not early.

"Dude lost a ton of weight for Ruiz Jr and kelt some disciplined strategy". This was one of the most shameful fights in heavyweight championship history.

Dude has a shitty attitude and tons of money. He doesn't need to win and he isn't going to try too hard to get any victory. What's most pathetic about AJ is that after trying to duck Tyson Fury he js now desperately trying to get him into the ring referring to some gentlemans agreement. Fellow isn't interested in beating Fury, all he cares about is that giant payday. Matter of fact he knows that he can't win.

Anyway, I hope that AJ's new trainers will enjoy their %'s of his purse, they won't however deserve them any more than AJ does his.

[fanman]

I don't think that AJ has any passion for the sport. He will hire a Yes man trainer for the fight with a low networth who will be very interested in the %'s that he gets from the fight. And when the fight ends he will find someone else to blame for his loss.

No way. You can say that about Whyte, but AJ has the fire. Dude lost a ton of weight for Ruiz Jr. and kept to a disciplined strategy. He'll show some more wrinkles. It's up to Usyk to adjust here. I hope he doesn't try to outbox Usyk but outbomb him. Only way he can win is if he goes for the stoppage like he did in the first Ruiz Jr. fight. It backfired there, but can Usyk hurt AJ in the early rounds? I've not seen the fight in a long while, but I remember Usyk hurting him in the later rounds as AJ was looking tired, not early.

Sorry man, Usyk was hurting him early, rocked him in the 3rd round I believe.

It's not so easy to get into a slugfest with someone, if they are faster than you, and a heavyweight, they will k.o. you with a sharp punch down the pipe if you telegraph your punches.

AJ has a lot of talent, a substantial size advantage and power, so he has a chance.
Last time was a Master Class by Usyk, if he shows up in the same shape again, he will be very hard for AJ to beat, AJ is a bit too stiff and clunky in comparison.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I don't think that AJ has any passion for the sport. He will hire a Yes man trainer for the fight with a low networth who will be very interested in the %'s that he gets from the fight. And when the fight ends he will find someone else to blame for his loss.

No way. You can say that about Whyte, but AJ has the fire. Dude lost a ton of weight for Ruiz Jr. and kept to a disciplined strategy. He'll show some more wrinkles. It's up to Usyk to adjust here. I hope he doesn't try to outbox Usyk but outbomb him. Only way he can win is if he goes for the stoppage like he did in the first Ruiz Jr. fight. It backfired there, but can Usyk hurt AJ in the early rounds? I've not seen the fight in a long while, but I remember Usyk hurting him in the later rounds as AJ was looking tired, not early.

Sorry man, Usyk was hurting him early, rocked him in the 3rd round I believe.

It's not so easy to get into a slugfest with someone, if they are faster than you, and a heavyweight, they will k.o. you with a sharp punch down the pipe if you telegraph your punches.

AJ has a lot of talent, a substantial size advantage and power, so he has a chance.
Last time was a Master Class by Usyk, if he shows up in the same shape again, he will be very hard for AJ to beat, AJ is a bit too stiff and clunky in comparison.

Just rewatched it - it was the 5th actually, he wasn't badly hurt, he stopped AJ in his tracks, but he didn't really look stunned.

Usyk never really sat down on his punches, I suspect that if he did, he could probably hurt AJ pretty badly - but then he would have to plant his feet more and leave himself open to being countered.

[fanman]

Well yes, and then there is the factor that Usyk won so clearly, gave a boxing lesson, finished stronger, and had AJ rocking at the end. AJ knows that he was totally outclassed, and when he lets his hands go he will mostly miss and be countered with combos.

So it's a tough ask, and calls for a totally different game plan, different sparring and crucially different mentality ... not easy to do.

[margaret thatcher]

Usyk can't KO Joshua, even with his weak chin.
If he goes aggressive like his earlier fights he can win.
That Joshua the boxer thing only worked with Ruiz.
If he can't muster up the courage to do that he should retire.

does poor usyk actually have a chance this time

Usyk can win if Joshua is still broken and afraid.
Usyk was very smart. He chose the weak link and got a lot of belts.
However, if he fought all the top heavyweights including Fury he
would lose more than once.
He isn't nearly as good as the fan boys make him out to be.
And he hasn't done nearly enough to be considered a ATG at heavy.
However, he is a brave Ukranian and should be honored for that.

hey the dude who said usyk never had a hope vs fury or aj, i wondered what happened to that guy

what are your thoughts these days?

Usyk is not going to going to beat Joshua or Fury, period.

Joshua should fight Usyk first because he doesn't have the power to be a threat

Usyk should win this fight but will hit a wall soon after that.
He might get WBO which shows how convoluted the titles are.
Great boxer but too small and old to make a dent at the top.

Yes, stay lean. And take the Usyk fight. It will be an easy win.

Usyk might end up with some irrelevant WBOish belt but he will never crack the top tier.
He should drop down to the new super cruiserweight division