Heavyweights. Barley a pulse.

HomicideHenry
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Re: Heavyweights. Barley a pulse.

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Enlightened-One wrote: 13 May 2022, 09:26 Here are the heavyweight rankings of The RING from the 15th August, 2021

Champion - Tyson Fury
1 - Anthony Joshua
2 - Deontay Wilder
3 - Dillian Whyte
4 - Joseph Parker
5 - Andy Ruiz Jr.
6 - Luis Ortiz
7 - Michael Hunter
8 - Oscar Rivas
9 - Joe Joyce
10 - Oleksandr Usyk

Since then, we’ve seen most of these fighters engage in the following bouts:
• Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder III
• Tyson Fury vs. Dillian Whyte
• Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk
• Joseph Parker vs. Dereck Chisora II
• Luis Ortiz vs. Charles Martin

These were pretty good contests to watch, with one of them arguably one of the greatest bouts in the history of the heavyweight division.

The fighters above will be engaged in the following fights in the near future:
• Anthony Joshua vs. Oleksandr Usyk II
• Joseph Parker vs. Joe Joyce
• Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Luis Ortiz
• Michael Hunter vs. Hughie Fury

Therefore, why are people complaining about the state of the heavyweight division, because as far as I can tell, nearly all the top-ten world-rated heavyweights are either facing each other or are fighting very decent opposition?

Isn't that precisely what we want? The best facing the best?
I agree.

The heavyweight division if anything has finally picked up and been more interesting than it has been for nearly 20 years.
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Re: Heavyweights. Barley a pulse.

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Bard of Boxrec wrote: 11 May 2022, 13:06 I agree with the original post, but barley is more of a grain than a pulse
:OhYes:
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Re: Heavyweights. Barley a pulse.

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Yeah, it's not too great, is it? On positives notes, I like the way Joyce uses his jab and Jared Anderson may have some potential.
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Re: Heavyweights. Barley a pulse.

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Enlightened-One wrote: 11 May 2022, 06:34
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42The Heavyweight division is barely alive.
Wrong!

The bouts between Fury-Whyte and Usyk-Joshua will inevitably be classed amongst the top-four revenue generating boxing events of 2022.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Fury is retired or waits for another payday to fight a bum. Lots of guys in history were undefeated in 33 fights. His resume of wins won't age well.
Fury and the WBC promise to make an announcement this week on how things will progress in the short-term. Apparently the announcement will be exciting.

But regardless, within his last nine bouts, Tyson Fury has faced Wladimir Klitschko, Deontay Wilder three times, Dillian Whyte and Otto Wallin.

None of those guys are "bums".
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Wilder is retired...I think. Or he will have one more fight and lose.
He isn't retired and we don't know who his next opponent is.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Usyk is skilled, but he's busy fighting the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And he 35. Who knows when he'll be back.
Oleksandr Usyk is currently in training camp preparing for July's rematch against Anthony Joshua.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Chisora hangs around, at age 38. He's a spring chicken compared to Ortiz who is 43. At least that's what Box Rec says.
Dereck Chisora definitely has one or two event headlining marquee bouts to go until he retires. One of his opponents could be Chris Arreola, Deontay Wilder or even Luis Ortiz.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Who knows what Ruiz weights and will he fight next?
It was confirmed a few weeks ago that Andy Ruiz Jr. will be facing Luis Ortiz next.

I don’t care about his weight or physique because I’m not attracted to other men’s bodies. All I care about is how he performs inside the ring.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42The young talent? Joyce, oops, he'll be 37in September.

It doesn’t matter what his birth certificate says. He looks and fights like a young fighter. He’ll be facing Joseph Parker next.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42The Young talent is Hrgovic, who won't take an easy fight with Zhang
Filip Hrgovic's fight against Zhilei Zhang will be an easy victory fo the Croatian.

Nobody should criticise him for withdrawing from that fight because of the death of his father.

Fighters shouldn't compete or train if they're not mentally "right" or inadequately prepared for battle.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Jalolov, who is only 10-0
Bakhodir Jalolov appears to be a very decent fighter.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Makhamudov who might lack the promotional ties.
Arslanbek Makhmudov is being progressed at a quicker pace than Filip Hrgovic.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42Yoka but he's hiding a glass jaw and was bused for PED's. Twice.

Tony Yoka doesn’t have a glass jaw. And he hasn’t tested positive for PED’s twice.

For sure, we’ve seen him hurt in the amateurs, but he’s seemed fairly sturdy in the pros.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42The American's? Well Morrison beat Rhaman. There sons that is, neither of which is very good.

Neither Kenzie Morrison nor Hasim Rahman Jr. are prospects that anyone should be excited about.

Deontay Wilder, Michael Hunter, Jared Anderson and Jermaine Franklin are American. Andy Ruiz jr. is Mexican-American.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42There is Sanchez if you believe in him. I don't.

Frank Sanchez is Cuban, not American.

He apparently definitely has the skills and he already looks capable of beating fringe top-ten world-rated heavyweights, but he doesn't punch hard enough and his fighting style is tough to appreciate, which means it'll be very challenging for him to become a commercially-popular fighter.

He won't be given many opportunities if he doesn't generate money.
pound per pound wrote: 10 May 2022, 19:42This is the weakest collection of heavyweights in my lifetime The weakest.
I don't know how old you are, but 1984 to 1986 was a very weak era during heavyweight history, as was 1994 to 1996 and also 2005 until 2008.

Other notable periods include: 1932 to 1937; 1938 to 1949; 1951 to 1952; and 1967 to 1970.
Do you even know what is meant by "era"? Obviously not.

I can't wait for the headlining marquee bout featuring Chisora vs Arreloa. Will it be PPV? :roll:
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