I thought he had personal problems with Mayweather?
Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
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tiny_acres
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
I'm just reporting what I've read. I hope I read wrong because, we all know he'll be coddled for whatever the length of the contract is if it's true.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
You are correct in him being coddled. I just don't know how much longer he can keep winning even with less than spectacular opposition.gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 13:44I'm just reporting what I've read. I hope I read wrong because, we all know he'll be coddled for whatever the length of the contract is if it's true.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
Coddling boxers is more common than we like to admit. Sometimes we accuse boxers of ducking, and it ends up being promoters. Other times, it's on the boxer that blames the promoter or network.
I put 90% on the boxers themselves. If they want the best fights they'll get made. As fans it's easy to see through the BS. DLH is probably the most guilty of coddling.
I put 90% on the boxers themselves. If they want the best fights they'll get made. As fans it's easy to see through the BS. DLH is probably the most guilty of coddling.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
Yep. I put most of the blame on the boxers too for the same reason. If you REALLY want to fight the big fights, then you'll find a way to make that happen.Bandog wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 16:49 Coddling boxers is more common than we like to admit. Sometimes we accuse boxers of ducking, and it ends up being promoters. Other times, it's on the boxer that blames the promoter or network.
I put 90% on the boxers themselves. If they want the best fights they'll get made. As fans it's easy to see through the BS. DLH is probably the most guilty of coddling.
When a guy is coddled for years, and then re-signs with the promoter that's been coddling him. He's making a conscious choice to stay in his Mother's loving arms basically.
Crawford and Gervonta made that choice, and that's why I don't think much of either one of 'em as far as the way they've handled their career. Crawford really frustrates me because I KNOW he's better than he's strived for. He's just been perfectly willing to coast.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
when you see the up bringins of some of these fighters especially davis, and where they are now iam surprised they fight ever again.gilgamesh wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 17:41Yep. I put most of the blame on the boxers too for the same reason. If you REALLY want to fight the big fights, then you'll find a way to make that happen.Bandog wrote: ↑29 May 2022, 16:49 Coddling boxers is more common than we like to admit. Sometimes we accuse boxers of ducking, and it ends up being promoters. Other times, it's on the boxer that blames the promoter or network.
I put 90% on the boxers themselves. If they want the best fights they'll get made. As fans it's easy to see through the BS. DLH is probably the most guilty of coddling.
When a guy is coddled for years, and then re-signs with the promoter that's been coddling him. He's making a conscious choice to stay in his Mother's loving arms basically.
Crawford and Gervonta made that choice, and that's why I don't think much of either one of 'em as far as the way they've handled their career. Crawford really frustrates me because I KNOW he's better than he's strived for. He's just been perfectly willing to coast.
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adislav123
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
seems all very shady.
so Mayweather promotions announces tank has resigned with them just a couple of days after tank himself publicly states he wants 'to stand on his own feet', 'wishes Mayweather all the best' but has no intentions to resign.
so Mayweather promotions announces tank has resigned with them just a couple of days after tank himself publicly states he wants 'to stand on his own feet', 'wishes Mayweather all the best' but has no intentions to resign.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
Tank thought about it and realized if he left mayweather he may have to fight someone that isn't terrible.adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2022, 18:39 seems all very shady.
so Mayweather promotions announces tank has resigned with them just a couple of days after tank himself publicly states he wants 'to stand on his own feet', 'wishes Mayweather all the best' but has no intentions to resign.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
jockpunk wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 16:14Tank thought about it and realized if he left mayweather he may have to fight someone that isn't terrible.adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Jun 2022, 18:39 seems all very shady.
so Mayweather promotions announces tank has resigned with them just a couple of days after tank himself publicly states he wants 'to stand on his own feet', 'wishes Mayweather all the best' but has no intentions to resign.
Funny, but sadly it could be true.
Also he has made truckloads of money Vs low risk opponents with Wifebeater Promotions. Who wouldn't want more of that?
Well, us fans probably.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
tank's homebois played the 'oh he's still so young' card for so long
but teo beat loma at 23 (and commey before that, who blasted out a guy who schooled rolly)
and now haney's undisputed at 23
shak unified vs valdez at 24
those are young cats really challenging themselves. tank is in his late 20s and hasnt matched them
but teo beat loma at 23 (and commey before that, who blasted out a guy who schooled rolly)
and now haney's undisputed at 23
shak unified vs valdez at 24
those are young cats really challenging themselves. tank is in his late 20s and hasnt matched them
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
Because he can't.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 19:17 tank's homebois played the 'oh he's still so young' card for so long
but teo beat loma at 23 (and commey before that, who blasted out a guy who schooled rolly)
and now haney's undisputed at 23
shak unified vs valdez at 24
those are young cats really challenging themselves. tank is in his late 20s and hasnt matched them
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
We just don't know that for sure though Gil.gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 19:18Because he can't.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 19:17 tank's homebois played the 'oh he's still so young' card for so long
but teo beat loma at 23 (and commey before that, who blasted out a guy who schooled rolly)
and now haney's undisputed at 23
shak unified vs valdez at 24
those are young cats really challenging themselves. tank is in his late 20s and hasnt matched them
The guy has got game changing power at 130 & 135. Possibly 140 but I think that might be a stretch.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
I really don’t understand the reason why people keep assuming “ducking” or “protected” are the reasons why PBC fighters rarely face their Top Rank counterparts.
How many times does history need to keep repeating itself before those same individuals finally appreciate what’s actually happening?
I’ll make it simple for everyone…
There’s a street, which fighters rarely cross, unless mega money is involved!
PBC + Top Rank = NO FIGHT!!! (unless mega PPV)
How many times does history need to keep repeating itself before those same individuals finally appreciate what’s actually happening?
I’ll make it simple for everyone…
There’s a street, which fighters rarely cross, unless mega money is involved!
PBC + Top Rank = NO FIGHT!!! (unless mega PPV)
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
should sign where the talent is then
top rank have shak, haney, loma, kambo, teo, taylor, ramirez, etc....
garcia is with golden boy
if he reups with the same crew, he must not want those fights badly enough
top rank have shak, haney, loma, kambo, teo, taylor, ramirez, etc....
garcia is with golden boy
if he reups with the same crew, he must not want those fights badly enough
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
Exactly.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 20:51 should sign where the talent is then
top rank have shak, haney, loma, kambo, teo, taylor, ramirez, etc....
Terence Crawford, Tim Bradley and Manny Pacquiao were in Tanks position when they were both with Top Rank. They couldn’t face fighters from the other side of the street.
Adonis Stevenson, Deontay Wilder and Jermall Charlo’s choice of opposition were restricted due to their ties with the PBC.
Both Sergey Kovalev and GGG were forced to reject bouts against PBC fighters, due to their ties with a rival network.
History is littered with fighters struggling to face their big-name rivals due to boxing politics.
But all we keep hearing from ignorant fight fans are the words “cowardice”, “ducking”, “protected” etc.
At some point, those intellectually challenged people have to start paying attention to what is actually happening!!!!
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
gervonta's contract is up with floyd, where he resigns will tell us a lot about his ambition
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
I know we're not sure about it, but I mean if someone is looking after you and protecting you for so many years, there must be reason why they feel the need to do that.KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 20:37We just don't know that for sure though Gil.gilgamesh wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 19:18Because he can't.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 19:17 tank's homebois played the 'oh he's still so young' card for so long
but teo beat loma at 23 (and commey before that, who blasted out a guy who schooled rolly)
and now haney's undisputed at 23
shak unified vs valdez at 24
those are young cats really challenging themselves. tank is in his late 20s and hasnt matched them
The guy has got game changing power at 130 & 135. Possibly 140 but I think that might be a stretch.
Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
It also depends on how much the PBC and Showtime are willing to reward him for signing a contract extension.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 21:06 gervonta's contract is up with floyd, where he resigns will tell us a lot about his ambition
Both Manny Pacquiao and Terence Crawford extended their deals with Top Rank, despite all their best big-name rivals being aligned with the PBC.
History might repeat itself in that regard, but with Tank instead renewing his deal with the PBC.
This is because boxers are known as “PRIZE fighters” rather than “PRIDE fighters”.
History has repeatedly told us that much better boxers than Tank have previously chosen the paycheque over sporting legacy.
I’m not saying I agree with that mindset, but it’s an undeniable fact that history keeps repeating itself.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
for sure, taking weak fights for good money is definitely appealing . we'll see what he doesEnlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Jun 2022, 03:28It also depends on how much the PBC and Showtime are willing to reward him for signing a contract extension.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Jun 2022, 21:06 gervonta's contract is up with floyd, where he resigns will tell us a lot about his ambition
Both Manny Pacquiao and Terence Crawford extended their deals with Top Rank, despite all their best big-name rivals being aligned with the PBC.
History might repeat itself in that regard, but with Tank instead renewing his deal with the PBC.
This is because boxers are known as “PRIZE fighters” rather than “PRIDE fighters”.
History has repeatedly told us that much better boxers than Tank have previously chosen the paycheque over sporting legacy.
I’m not saying I agree with that mindset, but it’s an undeniable fact that history keeps repeating itself.
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tigermoth87
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Re: Why is Gervonta Davis so protected?
His handlers dont want to lose their cash coe and know he'll get schooled vs a good opponent