Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - Who wins?

Who wins?

Poll ended at 02 Mar 2023, 19:47

Benn - Decision
3
9%
Benn - T/KO
8
25%
DRAW
0
No votes
Ramirez - T/KO
10
31%
Ramirez - Decision
11
34%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

Post by brilo33 »

jose ko win huge jump for benn no disrepect but benn last wins were against fighters i thought had retired and even when they were live they werent top 10 i mean chris beat Ruslan with an eye with a egg in it, not saying benn hasnt got chance really improved a lot but why jump to jose i dont think benn beats Avanesyan dam i would of thought a fight a good josh kelly would be 50/50 not now obviously. good luck and fair play if he does fight jose tho
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lol, throwing around names like ramirez, danny garcia, thurman...........watch it be mo hooker or ray robinson
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margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jun 2022, 20:00 lol, throwing around names like ramirez, danny garcia, thurman...........watch it be mo hooker or ray robinson
Watch me be happy with either of them. (as long as its july 9)
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gregregegg wrote: 03 Jun 2022, 22:44
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jun 2022, 20:00 lol, throwing around names like ramirez, danny garcia, thurman...........watch it be mo hooker or ray robinson
Watch me be happy with either of them. (as long as its july 9)
Oh you wish it was the calibre of mo-mo or salty Ray Robinson :lol:

I'm picking the ghost of the ghost of Guerrero :-P
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

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joseito lopez looked pretty shot last fight, maybe he'll be in the mix
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margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jun 2022, 22:57 joseito lopez looked pretty shot last fight, maybe he'll be in the mix
i could expect Brandon Rios
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

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KiwiRider wrote: 03 Jun 2022, 16:30 Am I being a bit harsh in saying Benn is wearing thin on my patience?
The calibre of opponent
The big talk
The lack of a title fight

I don't even know how good he is, he might be champion material, or he might not. But isn't long overdue that we find out?
I wouldn’t criticise him for a lack of title fight. It’s tough to get a title fight at welter and I wouldn’t criticise Ortiz or Ennis either for not having fought for a belt yet.

I don’t really blame Benn for his opposition either. Up until his last fight I was fine with his opponents but he needed a step up last time and still does now.

I think Benn would genuinely fight anyone but I think his team have put the brakes on a little. Partly because of them not wanting to risk him yet but also I think because Eddie has pissed off most of the guys at PBC so they’re not wanting to do business for their guys. Similarly for Ramirez - they’d have to pay stupid money to get him over from Top Rank to fight in the U.K.

Hopefully they’re able to get something done though and it’s not another older opponent on the tail end of their career.
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We’re only 33 days away from Conor Benn’s alleged July 9th fight-date.

And it seems that he has already given up any hope of facing a world-class opponent:

“No world level fighter is going to take a fight at seven, eight weeks’ notice, so obviously I just have to make sure to stay ready and do whatever they present to me,” Benn told Boxing Social.

Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

Those five guys were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, at the time of their bouts against the Brit.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace and has been treading water for quite a while now.

It appears that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn, especially when you consider how aggressive they were with the careers of fighters like Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:12 We’re only 33 days away from Conor Benn’s alleged July 9th fight-date.

And it seems that he has already given up any hope of facing a world-class opponent:

“No world level fighter is going to take a fight at seven, eight weeks’ notice, so obviously I just have to make sure to stay ready and do whatever they present to me,” Benn told Boxing Social.

Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

Those five guys were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, at the time of their bouts against the Brit.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace and has been treading water for quite a while now.

It appears that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn, especially when you consider how aggressive they were with the careers of fighters like Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.
I didn't mind the first couple of years where he fought more often and he was young, also he didn't have much of an AM career did he?
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

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What a shock. CONor and his promoters drag their heels until they have no choice but to dig up some fossil.

Robert Guerrero is still active. I bet it will be him. A nice, safe easy, has-being body for CONor to beat. Or Julius Indongo. That way he'll have "dEfEaTeD a FoRmEr ChAmP!"
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

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I think they've already said they've canned July for him and it'll be September.

July is Chisora and should be announced today/tomorrow.
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garethhop wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:54 I think they've already said they've canned July for him and it'll be September.

July is Chisora and should be announced today/tomorrow.
I’d assume Del Boy will be pushed to late July now too considering the 9th is less than 5 weeks away.

I’m expecting a small show on the 9th and then Del later on in the month.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:33
Enlightened-One wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:12 We’re only 33 days away from Conor Benn’s alleged July 9th fight-date.

And it seems that he has already given up any hope of facing a world-class opponent:

“No world level fighter is going to take a fight at seven, eight weeks’ notice, so obviously I just have to make sure to stay ready and do whatever they present to me,” Benn told Boxing Social.

Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

Those five guys were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, at the time of their bouts against the Brit.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace and has been treading water for quite a while now.

It appears that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn, especially when you consider how aggressive they were with the careers of fighters like Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.
I didn't mind the first couple of years where he fought more often and he was young, also he didn't have much of an AM career did he?
I’m wondering whether Eddie Hearn is intentionally procrastinating, with the anticipation that all the welterweight world titles will be vacated shortly after Errol Spence Jr. faces Terence Crawford towards the end of the year?

Matchroom can then strategically orchestrate a shot at a vacant world title for Conor Benn against the weakest available sanctioned contender, whilst carefully avoiding the likes of Vergil Ortiz Jr. and Jaron Ennis.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 12:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:33
Enlightened-One wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:12 We’re only 33 days away from Conor Benn’s alleged July 9th fight-date.

And it seems that he has already given up any hope of facing a world-class opponent:

“No world level fighter is going to take a fight at seven, eight weeks’ notice, so obviously I just have to make sure to stay ready and do whatever they present to me,” Benn told Boxing Social.

Benn’s last five opponents have been (on average) nine years older than himself, with most of them approaching their mid-thirties and considered past-their-primes.

Those five guys were either on a poor run of form, weren’t natural 147lb-ers or never that good to begin with, at the time of their bouts against the Brit.

Conor Benn has been a pro for more than six years, but his career has progressed at a snail’s pace and has been treading water for quite a while now.

It appears that Matchroom don’t have much faith in Conor Benn, especially when you consider how aggressive they were with the careers of fighters like Anthony Joshua, Carl Froch, Dillian Whyte etc.
I didn't mind the first couple of years where he fought more often and he was young, also he didn't have much of an AM career did he?
I’m wondering whether Eddie Hearn is intentionally procrastinating, with the anticipation that all the welterweight world titles will be vacated shortly after Errol Spence Jr. faces Terence Crawford towards the end of the year?

Matchroom can then strategically orchestrate a shot at a vacant world title for Conor Benn against the weakest available sanctioned contender, whilst carefully avoiding the likes of Vergil Ortiz Jr. and Jaron Ennis.
I don’t think so. There’s no guarantee the belts will be updated to grabs post Spence/Crawford.

I just think they’re struggling to get a good opponent who’s willing to come over for fair amount. Only way it happens is through a purse bid or if they heavily overpay.

Re: those other U.K. fighters you mentioned, AJ was matched perfectly to build him up but he was Olympic champ and was given a home shot against arguably one of the worst ever heavyweight title holders.

Froch only joined Matchroom towards the end of the Super 6. They had to match him hard after that but he was also a top amateur (world championship medallist).

Whyte was signed to be cannon fodder for AJ but did a lot better than most expected in the fight and after it so he continued to be pushed.

Benn had extremely limited amateur experience. Yes, he’s been a pro for 6 years but considering how he looked after 18 months or so it’s amazing he’s made it as far as he has and the improvements have been terrific. His matchmaking was fine until the last one and he needs a step now. I think Ennis turned pro at a similar time (after a more accomplished amateur career) and I would say it’s only Ennis’ last 2-3 fights where he’s improved the opposition.
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maverick23 wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 13:12
Enlightened-One wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 12:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 10:33

I didn't mind the first couple of years where he fought more often and he was young, also he didn't have much of an AM career did he?
I’m wondering whether Eddie Hearn is intentionally procrastinating, with the anticipation that all the welterweight world titles will be vacated shortly after Errol Spence Jr. faces Terence Crawford towards the end of the year?

Matchroom can then strategically orchestrate a shot at a vacant world title for Conor Benn against the weakest available sanctioned contender, whilst carefully avoiding the likes of Vergil Ortiz Jr. and Jaron Ennis.
I don’t think so. There’s no guarantee the belts will be updated to grabs post Spence/Crawford.

I just think they’re struggling to get a good opponent who’s willing to come over for fair amount. Only way it happens is through a purse bid or if they heavily overpay.

Re: those other U.K. fighters you mentioned, AJ was matched perfectly to build him up but he was Olympic champ and was given a home shot against arguably one of the worst ever heavyweight title holders.

Froch only joined Matchroom towards the end of the Super 6. They had to match him hard after that but he was also a top amateur (world championship medallist).

Whyte was signed to be cannon fodder for AJ but did a lot better than most expected in the fight and after it so he continued to be pushed.

Benn had extremely limited amateur experience. Yes, he’s been a pro for 6 years but considering how he looked after 18 months or so it’s amazing he’s made it as far as he has and the improvements have been terrific. His matchmaking was fine until the last one and he needs a step now. I think Ennis turned pro at a similar time (after a more accomplished amateur career) and I would say it’s only Ennis’ last 2-3 fights where he’s improved the opposition.
The Ava Ortiz fight hasn’t made it over the line, do you think Warren/Marsh have been gazumped by Hearn offering GB more dough to fight Benn (WBC eliminator) ?
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No way Hearn is putting Benn with Ortiz.
More likely Ohara Davies.
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Dioufy wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 16:12 No way Hearn is putting Benn with Ortiz.
More likely Ohara Davies.
I don't mind Ohara Davies, better opponent than Chris Algieri, or the yarpie Van Heerden he just fought.
But Ohara is a SLW and is facing the hard hitting and tricky TBA soon.
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KiwiRider wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 16:51
Dioufy wrote: 06 Jun 2022, 16:12 No way Hearn is putting Benn with Ortiz.
More likely Ohara Davies.
I don't mind Ohara Davies, better opponent than Chris Algieri, or the yarpie Van Heerden he just fought.
But Ohara is a SLW and is facing the hard hitting and tricky TBA soon.
LOL Yeah O’hara Davies is really well known stateside, big money fight !
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I have it on good authority that Andre Berto is being lined up for Benn's next opponent.

Benn demanded that respect be put on his name
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forcefraser wrote: 07 Jun 2022, 05:18 I have it on good authority that Andre Berto is being lined up for Benn's next opponent.

Benn demanded that respect be put on his name
Dont have to name names, but what is this good authority? Someone inside matchroom? someone close to berto? someone close to Benn? Other?
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Can’t be Berti, surely??? Inactive for 4 years!
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Dioufy wrote: 07 Jun 2022, 07:16 Can’t be Berti, surely??? Inactive for 4 years!
I automatically assumed forcefraser was taking the piss! Who knows though.
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maverick23 wrote: 07 Jun 2022, 07:18
Dioufy wrote: 07 Jun 2022, 07:16 Can’t be Berti, surely??? Inactive for 4 years!
I automatically assumed forcefraser was taking the piss! Who knows though.
Regarding Benn opponents… no one should joke.

Nothing is off the table.

Half expecting them to announce that Metz fella Ava fought and then give it the big one when Benn blows him away in 30 secs instead of 60.
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Conor Benn Open To Fighting Chris Eubank at 160

"It will be a catchweight, I suppose," Benn said of fighting Eubank. "But I won't lose no sleep over fighting him at 160. I won't lose no sleep. At all. I'll fight him next if that got presented to me. I'll have that fight any day of the week, twice on Sundays."


"I don't think he will take that fight," he said.

"I said, 'Listen, me and you can make a lot of money in the future,'" Eubank recalled Benn saying in an interview with IFL TV. "He said on the fight that he comes in 20lbs heavier than what he weighs in at.

"He was basically trying to say that he could physically fight, the weight difference wouldn't be an issue."
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Re: Conor Benn vs. Jose Ramirez - 9 July 2022?

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I think Benn is coming along nicely, and has come on leaps and bounds since he was hitting the canvas against that French bloke a few years ago, if the fight happens then hats off to him, if he wins then brilliant 👍🏻
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