This is a LOSS that has aged well. A bit like Selby Vs Kambosos.
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Victor Terrazas had a great run after losing to Rendall Munroe.
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eh, it's still in the spirit of this thread 
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Salvador Sanchez beating little known African Azumah Nelson
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Margarito beating Martinez
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Charlie Magri's 10 round decision over Santos Laciar has aged like a fine wine
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dudes are just bursting with knowledge here, good answers bruhs 
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Raheem v Morales.
As I remember, it made far less of a splash at the time than it really should have, considering Morales then had only 2 disputed losses to Barrera and had just stopped Pacquiao's first almighty tear through the lower weights.
Before the fight against Pacquiao, there was a feeling that Morales would be a bit too big and tough and clever, and that's generally how it turned out. So when Morales himself stepped up a weight against a tricky opponent in Raheem, and came off worse, the same explanation could easily apply. I don't recall anyone saying Morales must be on the decline.
But this was before we knew Pacquiao would hit yet another gear and beat all comers up to welterweight for years on end, while Morales himself would win a world title up at 140. So, Raheem's achievement in beating that version of Morales gets better over time (and makes the rest of his underwhelming career quite baffling). Particularly because it was a pretty wide win.
As I remember, it made far less of a splash at the time than it really should have, considering Morales then had only 2 disputed losses to Barrera and had just stopped Pacquiao's first almighty tear through the lower weights.
Before the fight against Pacquiao, there was a feeling that Morales would be a bit too big and tough and clever, and that's generally how it turned out. So when Morales himself stepped up a weight against a tricky opponent in Raheem, and came off worse, the same explanation could easily apply. I don't recall anyone saying Morales must be on the decline.
But this was before we knew Pacquiao would hit yet another gear and beat all comers up to welterweight for years on end, while Morales himself would win a world title up at 140. So, Raheem's achievement in beating that version of Morales gets better over time (and makes the rest of his underwhelming career quite baffling). Particularly because it was a pretty wide win.
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olij999 wrote: ↑30 May 2022, 10:57 Ernesto Marcel outpointing a relatively unknown Alexis Arguello for the WBA feather title in 1974 - at that point, Arguello had fought almost exclusively in Nicaragua.
Similarly, Alfonso Zamora's W KO 2 bantamweight title defence in 1976 over a fairly unknown Panamanian, a 14-1 Eusebio Pedroza, looked a lot better by about 1985.
And I hope this chap - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1415 - is dining out on his PTS 4 win in his debut. It certainly looks good now.
I can still remember Zamora's clash with Carlos Zarate in the battle of the 'Z' men in Los Angeles back in 1977. Zamora, who held the WBA bantamweight title, boasted a perfect record of 29-0 (29); Zarate, the WBC bantamweight champion, was an amazing 45-0 (44). It went ahead as a 10-rounder because neither champion wanted to risk the belt and a close, bruising, thrilling affair was expected but in the event, Zarate just walked through Zamora in four one-sided rounds. Zamora's father then attacked Cuyo Hernandez in the other corner, while one idiot had jumped into the ring in his underpants during the fight and was dragged out by the LAPD. Zamora's defeat was a crushing psychological blow. A fight later, he lost his world title to Panama's unheralded Jorge Lujan.
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Sugar Ray Leonard’s win over Floyd Mayweather Snr.
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Some great answers in this thread 
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Would Groves Degale count? It was a big domestic level fight, but the pair of them became internationally well known a few years later.
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I remember we were all taking the piss out of Calzaghe for fighting unknown Sakio Bika - figuring he was another Tucker Pudwill.
There was a thread here where we subtitled some videos.
Bika went on to headbutt and rough up his way around some top fighters for some years afterwards.
There was a thread here where we subtitled some videos.
Bika went on to headbutt and rough up his way around some top fighters for some years afterwards.
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in inoue's 4th fight he beat ryoichi taguchi, who was then the japanese champ. taguchi later became unified world champ
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olij999 wrote: ↑30 May 2022, 10:57 Ernesto Marcel outpointing a relatively unknown Alexis Arguello for the WBA feather title in 1974 - at that point, Arguello had fought almost exclusively in Nicaragua.
Similarly, Alfonso Zamora's W KO 2 bantamweight title defence in 1976 over a fairly unknown Panamanian, a 14-1 Eusebio Pedroza, looked a lot better by about 1985.
And I hope this chap - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/1415 - is dining out on his PTS 4 win in his debut. It certainly looks good now.
Just looking at Clinton Mitchell's record: the man dropped out of boxing for seven long years after the Hopkins win. Something about the win had an adverse affect on him.
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Came to say this one. One of only two fighters to ever go the distance with Naoyamargaret thatcher wrote: ↑07 Jun 2022, 19:17 in inoue's 4th fight he beat ryoichi taguchi, who was then the japanese champ. taguchi later became unified world champ
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Canelo beat Miguel Vazquez in his third fight, went on to be world champion.
Some guy called Rustico Torrecampo beat an unknown 18 year old called Emanuel Pacquiao in 1996, I think he enjoys telling people about that nowadays.
Some guy called Rustico Torrecampo beat an unknown 18 year old called Emanuel Pacquiao in 1996, I think he enjoys telling people about that nowadays.
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david haye v chisora, probably hayes best win now