Anyone interested in Rahman Vs Maskaev

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Aug 2006, 07:44

Anyone?

I think Rahman gets his revenge this time.

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 11 Aug 2006, 07:49

Not really a massive fight is it, the only thing thats makes it a little interesting is what happened in their 1st contest.

I want Maskaev to win, but in reality i think Rahman takes the fight by late KO.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 Aug 2006, 07:52

Have already advised a Rock win to friends (1.57 on B/F) and even have mumbled about a round 5-7 KO prediction. Hope this doesn't come back to haunt me, but surely Rahman will want his revenge rather than come in lazy which he seems to do too often.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 11 Aug 2006, 08:15

By the way, if anybody hasn't seen what happened last time Rahman and Maskaev fought you can see it here. Rahman was winning comfortably until.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQeqquW1ugo

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 11 Aug 2006, 08:35

Rahman might have to climb off the floor, but that shakier than thou chin of maskaev will betray him at some point, im saying Rahman via CKO (Cataclysmic Knockout) but who knows what round..?

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Aug 2006, 08:59

With the flying chair as well!

E · Post by E » 11 Aug 2006, 09:00

johnswan1 wrote:Have already advised a Rock win to friends (1.57 on B/F) and even have mumbled about a round 5-7 KO prediction. Hope this doesn't come back to haunt me, but surely Rahman will want his revenge rather than come in lazy which he seems to do too often.

Given Rahman's chin I wouldn't want to put money on this - the odds are not good enough.

overhand_right · Post by **overhand_right** » 11 Aug 2006, 10:06

At least Rahmans chin has let him down in good company though fella. Look at Maskaevs record- T-Rex & slappy hitting Whitaker?!? I know what your saying but Rahman is more reliable (for want of better term with these two) than The Big O.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 11 Aug 2006, 13:40

Rahmans chin was let down by his legs
he seems in much better shape now so shouldnt get caught flat footed with his back to the ropes

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 11 Aug 2006, 13:46

Like to see this one, two heavy punchers with dodgy chins=??

Still, Maskaev took some decent shots off Sam, who can hit pretty hard at times, and boxed well too. Plus the Rock is a very hot & cold fighter, so Maskaev is a very live underdog. He could well win this.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 11 Aug 2006, 13:55

So are we not getting this over here? I see it is not on the Boxing News TV schedule.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Aug 2006, 16:56

Nearly every Heavyweight fight I've watched this year is because of downloads, so looks like looking for that the next day it is.

Be great if Sentanta threw it on a PPV like with Byrd and Klitschko.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 12 Aug 2006, 08:01

MightyWarrior wrote:Like to see this one, two heavy punchers with dodgy chins=??

Still, Maskaev took some decent shots off Sam, who can hit pretty hard at times, and boxed well too. Plus the Rock is a very hot & cold fighter, so Maskaev is a very live underdog. He could well win this.

I'm leaning toward a Maskaev KO in 5

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 12 Aug 2006, 14:06

Both so inconsistent it is hard to predict. Maskaev looks a very old 36.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 12 Aug 2006, 16:04

From viewing the weigh in photos Maskaev just looked ancient and I cant see him turning the trick a second time.

If Rahman can keep his punch output high as he did in the Toney match he should win.

A sub 220lb Toney (will we ever see this version again?) would school all the present incumbents.

Cant wait to see him outwit Peter

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 13 Aug 2006, 04:32

Fair play to old man Maskaev!

He was leading on two cards entering the final frame so it was no one shot wonder...

This surely cements Rahman's legacy as a habitual under achiever? His physical tools arent sufficient to make a great heavy and his chin seems lacking.

WHen MAskav was getting blasted out in back to back fights who ever thought that he would eventually gain a portion of the heavyweight crown??!

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Aug 2006, 08:47

KO Artist wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Like to see this one, two heavy punchers with dodgy chins=??

Still, Maskaev took some decent shots off Sam, who can hit pretty hard at times, and boxed well too. Plus the Rock is a very hot & cold fighter, so Maskaev is a very live underdog. He could well win this.
I'm leaning toward a Maskaev KO in 5

Good call

Maskaev seems to hold a punch much better than a few years back, which you don't often see - all in the mind, like they say.

There's a highlight video of it over at espn, less the KO though!

E · Post by E » 13 Aug 2006, 10:02

johnswan1 wrote:Have already advised a Rock win to friends (1.57 on B/F) and even have mumbled about a round 5-7 KO prediction. Hope this doesn't come back to haunt me, but surely Rahman will want his revenge rather than come in lazy which he seems to do too often.

do your friends hate you now?????

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 13 Aug 2006, 10:20

TerribleTerry wrote:Fair play to old man Maskaev!

entering the final frame

Final frame, Maskaev to break..Rahman's chin!

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 13 Aug 2006, 16:40

MightyWarrior wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:Like to see this one, two heavy punchers with dodgy chins=??

Still, Maskaev took some decent shots off Sam, who can hit pretty hard at times, and boxed well too. Plus the Rock is a very hot & cold fighter, so Maskaev is a very live underdog. He could well win this.
I'm leaning toward a Maskaev KO in 5
Good call

Maskaev seems to hold a punch much better than a few years back, which you don't often see - all in the mind, like they say.

There's a highlight video of it over at espn, less the KO though!

Cheers, Rob.

I heard a lot of people backing Rahman, saying he's much improved since the first fight, but in my book, in that period he has improved AND declined. He always seemed very erratic to me, with his best win being over Lewis who, for all his qualities, had a poor chin and underestimated some of his opponents.

I made my mind up on Friday night, when I saw Raham on the pads in training on YouTube. His left hand was constantly low, not hip low, where you can throw a jab without it being seen, but around his pectoral area. Each time he jabbed, he brought his hand back to his pec for about a second and then touched his nose.

He was way open for a right hand, and I knew that Maskaev would land at least one big shot in the 12 rounds.

Rahmans low left hand is a SERIOUS flaw, and one that none of his recent rainers have picked up on.

Why are they getting paid?

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 14 Aug 2006, 04:21

Fair play to Maskaev, any links to footage of the finish? Would be interesting to see the outcome. Maskaev looked much improved as he pounded out a decision over Sam, i don't think his general power was ever in question but always his suspect chin. Seems with a bit more mental strength he is a different guy...are all four title holders now from the old Soviet Union?

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 14 Aug 2006, 07:39

steve689 wrote:Fair play to Maskaev, any links to footage of the finish? Would be interesting to see the outcome. Maskaev looked much improved as he pounded out a decision over Sam, i don't think his general power was ever in question but always his suspect chin. Seems with a bit more mental strength he is a different guy...are all four title holders now from the old Soviet Union?

Here is round twelve in its entirety, with Mike Tyson commentating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPwwJu7Jvfc

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 14 Aug 2006, 07:54

Love the way Rahman stumbles around the ring protesting against the stoppage hahaha.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 14 Aug 2006, 11:41

johnswan1 wrote:
steve689 wrote:Fair play to Maskaev, any links to footage of the finish? Would be interesting to see the outcome. Maskaev looked much improved as he pounded out a decision over Sam, i don't think his general power was ever in question but always his suspect chin. Seems with a bit more mental strength he is a different guy...are all four title holders now from the old Soviet Union?
Here is round twelve in its entirety, with Mike Tyson commentating...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPwwJu7Jvfc

Thanks for that - was this a Top Rank show? I know Lopez and the other guy commentate for Top Rank. I would have love to have heard Tyson's comments throughout.

The both did look awful, but a least it was exciting.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 14 Aug 2006, 11:53

Rahman just looked knackered, the shots which started the trouble weren't even bloody hard.

What was Nady doing undoing the tape around his glove!!

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