Whats the situation with Nicky Cook ???

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:44

I see that Cyril Thomas who Nicky beat for the title has a fight for the EBU featherweight title, why has Nicky lost his belt ???

I presume he's vacated because they must be trying to secure a WBC shot against the new mexican title holder, but boxrec has In Jin Chi down at having a WBC shot later this year, can anyone clarify the situation

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:46

Foggy wrote:I see that Cyril Thomas who Nicky beat for the title has a fight for the EBU featherweight title, why has Nicky lost his belt ???

I presume he's vacated because they must be trying to secure a WBC shot against the new mexican title holder, but boxrec has In Jin Chi down at having a WBC shot later this year, can anyone clarify the situation

Your presumtion is spot on, not sure on the WBC title situation - there have been a few recent threads on it, but no one seems to know the score.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:50

Rodolfo Lopez is defending against Chi in November I think.

Isn't Humberto Soto still the interim champ though?

What a mess.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:50

Thought that too nick, but Soto has moved up to SF.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:52

jomothepure wrote:Thought that too nick, but Soto has moved up to SF.

Ah the plot thickens.

So Cook could be in line for a crack next year you'd think.

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:55

You'd think if this Lopez fella beat Chi then Chi would be out of the picture at Featherweight and if Cook got his shot & beat Lopez he could maybe make quite a few defences (featherwight dont seem to be the most talented of divisions at the moment) before a big fight against one of the other champs.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 10 Aug 2006, 14:58

Foggy wrote:You'd think if this Lopez fella beat Chi then Chi would be out of the picture at Featherweight and if Cook got his shot & beat Lopez he could maybe make quite a few defences (featherwight dont seem to be the most talented of divisions at the moment) before a big fight against one of the other champs.

I think Chi is some sort of mandatory though the winner of Lopez v Koshimoto was stipulated to fight Chi next. If thats the case then Cook could be waiting a while for his mandatory to come round. And lets be honest WBC mandatories take longer than most!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 10 Aug 2006, 18:41

nickd wrote:
Foggy wrote:You'd think if this Lopez fella beat Chi then Chi would be out of the picture at Featherweight and if Cook got his shot & beat Lopez he could maybe make quite a few defences (featherwight dont seem to be the most talented of divisions at the moment) before a big fight against one of the other champs.
I think Chi is some sort of mandatory though the winner of Lopez v Koshimoto was stipulated to fight Chi next. If thats the case then Cook could be waiting a while for his mandatory to come round. And lets be honest WBC mandatories take longer than most!

They might as well do what they did with Eastman and give Cook a straight mandatory.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 11 Aug 2006, 04:17

Eastman had to wait ages for his mandatory shot as did McCracken before him. And Witter has been WBC mandatory for god knows how long. So even if Cook is made mandatory challenger it doesn't guarantee him a quick crack at the belt.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 11 Aug 2006, 04:28

nickd wrote:Eastman had to wait ages for his mandatory shot as did McCracken before him. And Witter has been WBC mandatory for god knows how long. So even if Cook is made mandatory challenger it doesn't guarantee him a quick crack at the belt.

Quite. And I believe that the EBU have introduced some rule that if you are Euro champ and have a world title shot lined up, you HAVE to give up the belt. Maybe they equate being the mandatory as having a shot lined up (you would think so) but as Nick says, you might have to wait ages for this shot and end up sitting on your arse doing nothing.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Aug 2006, 07:38

Cook gave up his EBU belt though.

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 11 Aug 2006, 08:27

He doesn't deserve a title shot anyway. Is there any indication that he's better than the likes of Rudy Lopez, Injin Chi and Takashi Koshimoto? No, I say. Cookie's looked a lot less dominant since winning the EBU title.

Boxing Addict · Post by **Boxing Addict** » 11 Aug 2006, 09:32

Lopez can have a voluntry defence before the CHI fight so anything could happen.

It looks like Cook will have to wait till next year, why doesn't he just fight Scott Harrison. It all baffles me.

Humberto Soto is out of the picture at feather now, his definately moving / moved up to super feather.

Lopez Vs ? - 30 Sep

Winner Vs Chi - 26 Nov

Winner Vs Cook - Feb / Mar 07!!!!! If it happens

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 11 Aug 2006, 11:58

Chi hasn't done crap to deserve his shot since he lost.

Neri · Post by **Neri** » 11 Aug 2006, 12:22

viciousmaussa wrote:He doesn't deserve a title shot anyway. Is there any indication that he's better than the likes of Rudy Lopez, Injin Chi and Takashi Koshimoto? No, I say. Cookie's looked a lot less dominant since winning the EBU title.

Cook deserves a title shot much more than Rudy Lopez deserved his. Lopez had not beaten anyone of note.

He has held that WBC no 1 spot for a while now and keeps winning so he's due his shot IMO.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 11 Aug 2006, 12:49

Max Molyneux wrote:Chi hasn't done crap to deserve his shot since he lost.

It was a controversial decision which is why Chi is getting another crack so quickly.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 11 Aug 2006, 13:41

according to fightnews, soto and whathisface are fighting a wbc featherweight title eliminator.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 11 Aug 2006, 18:28

hitman_hatton1 wrote:according to fightnews, soto and whathisface are fighting a wbc featherweight title eliminator.

Sounds like Cook is going to get shafted!

Chi deserves his shot, I still don't think he lost the title.

Whats the situation with Nicky Cook ???

Whats the situation with Nicky Cook ???

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