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margaret thatcher
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philly shell fails

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saw this term used to describe edgar berlanga's attempts to use it in a previous fight

and indeed so many fighters who try it fail miserably


who besides floyd was/is good at it?
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George Benton/James Toney were good at it. Benton pretty much patented it.

Anthony Yarde is pretty bad at it but it doesn't stop him doing his Floyd impression.
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ah yes, toney was good for sure

havent seen much of benton, but if the man invented it he must be good :yay:
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kenny norton, no?
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Broner and Kudryashov definitely failed using it.
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kud was the last guy who should ever try it :lol:

berto pulled some awful ones too, it led to this

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margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Jun 2022, 01:52 kud was the last guy who should ever try it :lol:
Yeah. Btw, last night he has finally won. Although it was against some sh!thouse, a local MMA fighter, who decided to try boxing.
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from 2014 to 2017 or so he had a fun career, a lot of forums loved him. but then he stepped beyond his level and became a punchbag. vs the right opposition i enjoyed watching him though
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margaret thatcher wrote: 12 Jun 2022, 01:58 from 2014 to 2017 or so he had a fun career, a lot of forums loved him. but then he stepped beyond his level and became a punchbag. vs the right opposition i enjoyed watching him though
It was the same last night. He fought a nobody again and finally scored the 1st round KO. Also, he bulked to 105 kg. However, hardly he'll face a decent HW, probably he'll take part in local freakshows in the nearest future.
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Ian Napa!
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Pretty sure AJ briefly tried it
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Frostieballs wrote: 12 Jun 2022, 03:33 Ian Napa!
Beat me to it!
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dookus wrote: 12 Jun 2022, 06:02
Frostieballs wrote: 12 Jun 2022, 03:33 Ian Napa!
Beat me to it!
Loved watching Napa
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Philly shell was coined as a term by the fight night games I think, it was just called the crab defence
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George Foreman.
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Foreman’s defence was more in the mould of Archie Moore’s cross arm defence. Frazier used a variant of it at times too.

Hopkins as boring as he could be at times used a decent Philly shell in his bag of tricks. He was very good at nullifying and drawing the sting out of opponents.
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and making fights stinky

move around a bit, single pot shot. hold. whine about something. repeat. win a decision. that was most of post middle weight hopkins fights in a nutshell. i dont see how even purists could be entertained by that.
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Ring mag even gave him a regular “tactics” spread where he would explain with photos how to tie someone up. It was even more boring than the letters page.
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orbtastic wrote: 13 Jun 2022, 12:26 Foreman’s defence was more in the mould of Archie Moore’s cross arm defence. Frazier used a variant of it at times too.

Hopkins as boring as he could be at times used a decent Philly shell in his bag of tricks. He was very good at nullifying and drawing the sting out of opponents.
Exactly right.
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got popular from you tube coachs like coach anthony, i think you have to be gifted fighter to fight in those stances and have success
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