Terence Crawford Files Lawsuit against Top Rank

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ironbeard wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 09:17 :lol: Didn’t take much to bring out the haters. Mission accomplished.
If the facts don’t support your preferred narrative, then do you consider anyone that cites them as being “haters”?
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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 09:28
ironbeard wrote: 20 Jan 2022, 09:17 :lol: Didn’t take much to bring out the haters. Mission accomplished.
If the facts don’t support your preferred narrative, then do you consider anyone that cites them as being “haters”?
Take it any way your fragile ego cares to. :OhYes:
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This will end badly for crawford most likely, costing him a tonne of money, and preventing him for fighting for an extending period whilst the dispute is ongoing.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:25 This will end badly for crawford most likely, costing him a tonne of money, and preventing him for fighting for an extending period whilst the dispute is ongoing.
Well he's not under contract anymore, so he can fight, unless it takes up too much head space to train properly for a fight.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:43
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:25 This will end badly for crawford most likely, costing him a tonne of money, and preventing him for fighting for an extending period whilst the dispute is ongoing.
Well he's not under contract anymore, so he can fight, unless it takes up too much head space to train properly for a fight.
Ah right, well in that case, he's wasting time, so it's probably best like you say he doesn't get too preoccupied with it - he's got almost zero chance of winning, it seems like it's really just designed to cause annoyance.

It will certainly cost him a lot of money.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:45
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:43
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 21 Jan 2022, 11:25 This will end badly for crawford most likely, costing him a tonne of money, and preventing him for fighting for an extending period whilst the dispute is ongoing.
Well he's not under contract anymore, so he can fight, unless it takes up too much head space to train properly for a fight.
Ah right, well in that case, he's wasting time, so it's probably best like you say he doesn't get too preoccupied with it - he's got almost zero chance of winning, it seems like it's really just designed to cause annoyance.

It will certainly cost him a lot of money.
It might not cost him anything. Some lawyers go into bat for celebs either as fans, or more often for exposure.
A lawyer getting their name out there on the back of another is lawyer scum 101. Even if the case is unwinnable or morally wrong, it won't stop lawyer level pond scum from getting their name out there.
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Hyping up Shakur in Vegas on NFL draft weekend in April is big for Arum.
That's a prime slot he's invested in SS.
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Taking such a pretentious lawsuit against a renowned lawyer, it is hard being this arrogant...
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The rumour mill is suggesting that Terence Crawford is currently in the midst of training for his next bout.

I really don’t know who he’s facing and nor do I know which promoter or network it’ll be on.

This is purely a guess on my part, but the only person I know of who has criticised Bob Arum as aggressively as Crawford has is Floyd Mayweather Jr.

I’m probably wrong about this since Bud has recently criticised Money May, but this pairing seems to be the best “fit” in my eyes.

And I realise Crawford stated a few days ago that he isn’t signing with Mayweather, but that doesn’t mean he won’t consider working with him on a per fight basis (as a free agent, like Dillian Whyte does with Matchroom).

Perhaps Mayweather’s connections in the Middle East will be able to fund the paydays that Crawford was accustomed to receiving with Top Rank?
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The "Blue Blood Sports TV" YouTube channel is alleging that Team Crawford would like to face the winner of the Charlo-Castano bout, immediately followed by a contest against the victor of the Spence Jr-Ugas fight.

All four of those men are PBC fighters.

Apparently, Team Crawford will lobby the WBO to make Bud the mandatory challenger for their 154lbs world title.

Capturing a world title in a fourth weight class (especially if he beat the undisputed world champion) would give Terence Crawford leverage in negotiations, especially considering Errol Spence Jr’s imminent plans to make the jump to 154lbs.

And would fight fans be bothered about the Crawford-Spence Jr. bout being fought at 154lbs instead of 147lbs? Probably not.

One of the things that could scupper Team Crawford’s plans, is the likelihood of Jermell Charlo vacating and making the jump to 160lbs if he beats Brian Castano.

If this rumour is true, then it would mean that Team Crawford are looking to work with the PBC in some sort of capacity (possibly via Mayweather Promotions).
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Enlightened-One wrote: 24 Jan 2022, 05:08 Team Crawford would like to face the winner of the Charlo-Castano bout, immediately followed by a contest against the victor of the Spence Jr-Ugas fight.
They don't want the fight immediately he says it right there.
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bob trying to keep brothas down?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:19 bob trying to keep brothas down?
I don’t even understand that tweet ..

Can anyone explain in plain English?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:25
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:19 bob trying to keep brothas down?
I don’t even understand that tweet ..

Can anyone explain in plain English?
Have to have one of our esteemed American posters explain it.
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KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:25
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:19 bob trying to keep brothas down?
I don’t even understand that tweet ..

Can anyone explain in plain English?
Have to have one of our esteemed American posters explain it.
Where the American’s at??
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 05:42
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:25

I don’t even understand that tweet ..

Can anyone explain in plain English?
Have to have one of our esteemed American posters explain it.
Where the American’s at??
Don't you guys have any brothers living in your country?
I would explain, but not one of the esteemed ones. Get on Twitter an ask for yourself.
Arum claims he's certainly not racist, and even has been accused of hating white men. :OhYes:
http://www.renegadetribune.com/boxings- ... dnt-exist/
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Bandog wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:56
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 05:42
KiwiRider wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:47

Have to have one of our esteemed American posters explain it.
Where the American’s at??
Don't you guys have any brothers living in your country?
I would explain, but not one of the esteemed ones. Get on Twitter an ask for yourself.
Arum claims he's certainly not racist, and even has been accused of hating white men. :OhYes:
http://www.renegadetribune.com/boxings- ... dnt-exist/
I don't know about Ruthie, but I wanted to know what changed in the case to bump it up to Federal Court from Civil (state) Court?
If the alleged racism now becomes a Federal Law matter, as opposed to a State Law case.
That is where my knowledge is lacking and requires one of our esteemed American posters to explain.
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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 16:09
Bandog wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:56
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 05:42

Where the American’s at??
Don't you guys have any brothers living in your country?
I would explain, but not one of the esteemed ones. Get on Twitter an ask for yourself.
Arum claims he's certainly not racist, and even has been accused of hating white men. :OhYes:
http://www.renegadetribune.com/boxings- ... dnt-exist/
I don't know about Ruthie, but I wanted to know what changed in the case to bump it up to Federal Court from Civil (state) Court?
If the alleged racism now becomes a Federal Law matter, as opposed to a State Law case.
That is where my knowledge is lacking and requires one of our esteemed American posters to explain.
Oh gee, so I suppose you are asking esteemed lawyers from the U.S. to comment on this matter, from current scene? Forgive my sarcasm, but come on dude...
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im not sure of the racism angle or what evidence there is of it. arum seems like the type who sees green before anything else and would promote the sh!t out of anyone if it was bringing him enough return.

the reality is that black boxers just dont have the same nationality based support bases that mexiicans and puerto ricans automatically get - pretty much any mex/pr dude fights and there are flags everywhere. i guess it can usually make it tougher to promote an african american than a mexican american who is otherwise similar. thats unfortunate but its not really ssomeone being racist if they then give priority to the more promotable boxer

now, maybe arum/TR have done something overtly racist to crawford, i havent seen the full details of the case
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Bandog wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 18:20
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 16:09
Bandog wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 12:56

Don't you guys have any brothers living in your country?
I would explain, but not one of the esteemed ones. Get on Twitter an ask for yourself.
Arum claims he's certainly not racist, and even has been accused of hating white men. :OhYes:
http://www.renegadetribune.com/boxings- ... dnt-exist/
I don't know about Ruthie, but I wanted to know what changed in the case to bump it up to Federal Court from Civil (state) Court?
If the alleged racism now becomes a Federal Law matter, as opposed to a State Law case.
That is where my knowledge is lacking and requires one of our esteemed American posters to explain.
Oh gee, so I suppose you are asking esteemed lawyers from the U.S. to comment on this matter, from current scene? Forgive my sarcasm, but come on dude...
Just the difference between a state and Federal case. Any American should be able to answer something on the basics of their legal system :maybe:
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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 19:25
Bandog wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 18:20
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 16:09

I don't know about Ruthie, but I wanted to know what changed in the case to bump it up to Federal Court from Civil (state) Court?
If the alleged racism now becomes a Federal Law matter, as opposed to a State Law case.
That is where my knowledge is lacking and requires one of our esteemed American posters to explain.
Oh gee, so I suppose you are asking esteemed lawyers from the U.S. to comment on this matter, from current scene? Forgive my sarcasm, but come on dude...
Just the difference between a state and Federal case. Any American should be able to answer something on the basics of their legal system :maybe:
This is a state case, ordered by a federal judge to remain as one. Federal laws apply to all 50 states, more general in nature, while state laws may differ greatly, and address more of the nitty gritty, so not broad. Arum must have appealed to try to get it out of Nevada I'm guessing.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 18:27 im not sure of the racism angle or what evidence there is of it. arum seems like the type who sees green before anything else and would promote the sh!t out of anyone if it was bringing him enough return.

the reality is that black boxers just dont have the same nationality based support bases that mexiicans and puerto ricans automatically get - pretty much any mex/pr dude fights and there are flags everywhere. i guess it can usually make it tougher to promote an african american than a mexican american who is otherwise similar. thats unfortunate but its not really ssomeone being racist if they then give priority to the more promotable boxer

now, maybe arum/TR have done something overtly racist to crawford, i havent seen the full details of the case
There is a reason Mayweather spent most of his career trying to make Mexicans hate him so they can buy his PPV :OhYes: .
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2022, 20:18
Boxing Scene explained the following:

Top Rank sought to instead have the case heard in federal court, a common practice by defendants in a civil complaint since state court-heard cases tend to have less wait time before advancing the trial.

Federal court also carries stricter rules and would have likely resulted in a more expensive legal battle for Crawford.


The court’s decision to reject Top Rank’s request to move the case to federal court doesn’t necessarily mean that Terence Crawford’s lawsuit will be successful, especially when you consider the actual reasoning for the attempted legal manoeuvre.
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KiwiRider wrote: 29 Jun 2022, 19:25Just the difference between a state and Federal case. Any American should be able to answer something on the basics of their legal system :maybe:
Boxing Scene explained the following:

Top Rank sought to instead have the case heard in federal court, a common practice by defendants in a civil complaint since state court-heard cases tend to have less wait time before advancing the trial.

Federal court also carries stricter rules and would have likely resulted in a more expensive legal battle for Crawford.


The court’s decision to reject Top Rank’s request to move the case to federal court doesn’t necessarily mean that Terence Crawford’s lawsuit will be successful, especially when you consider the actual reasoning for the attempted legal manoeuvre.
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