Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos II | ESPN - October 15, 2022

[Bandog]

as long as it happens soon, why not, cant see how kambosos can really improve as it was one of those fights if haney boxed well and disciplined he would win easy and he did, if i was kambosos i would low blow from the start everytime haney locked him up he has to use the head but him a little and throw him untill the ref stepped in with a final warning remember haney is strong so could easyily do this himself, but he has to unsettle haney from the first bell and get him into a trade off ,and he has to be willing to be ko to landed a big hook over hand punch ,or otherwise it will just be the same as the first

you're a genius! world top level boxing strategist! period.

how you're not in the business advising multiple boxing world champions is beyond me. for real!

I'm joking...

you can't be fvckin serious?

to 'unsettle' your technically superior and faster opponent low blow, headbutt and wrestle him around from the get go til' the ref gives you the 'final warning' before DQ???

where's the tiniest spark of sense behind this absolutely idiotic masterplan?

how u reckon your boxer possibly could finish even the first round without getting disqualified if he'd foul away like a madman and break every rule in the book?

That's almost exactly the strategy Maidana used when he fought Floyd.

[Ruthless-RKO]

A much more one sided poll..

[Syntax Error]

There mustn't be rematches after such clear outcomes and eventless bouts, especially unifications, especially between short-lived champs.

Agree 100%.

Kambosos didn't do enough to warrant an immediate rematch and he's not a big enough star to demand one either.

Lets hope he lands at least one worthwhile punch in the rematch, then we can all look forward to a rubber match.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

Kambosos will ko Haney in the rematch

[Evander]

I look at Kambosos frame and he doesn`t look like the type that could carry weight without making him wider.
Maybe better training and a ring IQ refresher to get the best out of his style capabilities is in his better interests.
He`s got to learn how to do deal with boxers who command the pocket with a steady supply of jabs in this case.

[brilo33]

as long as it happens soon, why not, cant see how kambosos can really improve as it was one of those fights if haney boxed well and disciplined he would win easy and he did, if i was kambosos i would low blow from the start everytime haney locked him up he has to use the head but him a little and throw him untill the ref stepped in with a final warning remember haney is strong so could easyily do this himself, but he has to unsettle haney from the first bell and get him into a trade off ,and he has to be willing to be ko to landed a big hook over hand punch ,or otherwise it will just be the same as the first

you're a genius! world top level boxing strategist! period.

how you're not in the business advising multiple boxing world champions is beyond me. for real!

I'm joking...

you can't be fvckin serious?

to 'unsettle' your technically superior and faster opponent low blow, headbutt and wrestle him around from the get go til' the ref gives you the 'final warning' before DQ???

where's the tiniest spark of sense behind this absolutely idiotic masterplan?

how u reckon your boxer possibly could finish even the first round without getting disqualified if he'd foul away like a madman and break every rule in the book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SVvyx8sR0

[Bandog]

Haney is very young, but smart. He'll beat him again. I hope this isn't ppv. Doubt if a stadium gets half filled.

[Ruthless-RKO]

“I got everything. If you want anything in the lightweight division, you’ve got to go through me,” said Devin Haney to spam. “I knew they [Australian fans] would be against me, but I won the crowd over, I won the fans."

“We got to see what’s next; I don’t know. We’re weighing our options,” Haney said when asked who he’ll defend his 135-lb titles against next. “Possibly, possibly not [taking a rematch with Kambosos].

“We’ve got to see what makes the most sense for my team and me, and that’s what’s next. In October, we’ll be fighting, but we don’t know who next.

“They [Team Kambosos] can come over here [U.S] and get it, or if we do go over there [Australia], it’s got to make sense for us to go back. You know what that means by ‘make sense.’

“I took the short end of the stick; I took less money for my team and me to go over there against all odds. We came out victorious as he did against Teo [Lopez].

“He [Kambosos] got paid well and did well. So if you want us to come back, you’ve got to do the right thing to get my team and me there again. We had a good vacation, and now it’s back to work and on to the next.

“This ship doesn’t stop. We got to see who is going to be the next opponent, but we’re preparing. No, they haven’t. Not too many people have called me out.

“If you knew something I don’t, you could tell me, but I haven’t really been hearing. Oh yeah, I know Errol’s fighter [Frank Martin],” said Haney when told that fringe contender Frank Martin has called him out.

“I don’t think he’s even ranked in the top ten, so how can I [fight him?]. Of course, a guy like that, who is trying to make a name for himself, of course, he’s going to call me out. That’s what he’s supposed to do.

“At one point, I was there doing the same thing, but he’s not even ranked in the top ten to fight me. Right now, that doesn’t make a lot of sense for us to fight.

“I was in that position before, so I understand it. He’s not doing something that he’s supposed to be doing. I would be calling out the top guys. I was calling out the top guys when I was coming up.

“Yeah, I want to make the biggest fights happen. I’ve been saying that for a while now. I’m still standing on that. If it makes sense, the biggest fights, then let’s do it, and we can make it make sense.

“It’s nothing that we can’t figure out and come to an agreement and make these fights happen like I did when I fought in Australia,” said Haney.

[adislav123]

as long as it happens soon, why not, cant see how kambosos can really improve as it was one of those fights if haney boxed well and disciplined he would win easy and he did, if i was kambosos i would low blow from the start everytime haney locked him up he has to use the head but him a little and throw him untill the ref stepped in with a final warning remember haney is strong so could easyily do this himself, but he has to unsettle haney from the first bell and get him into a trade off ,and he has to be willing to be ko to landed a big hook over hand punch ,or otherwise it will just be the same as the first

you're a genius! world top level boxing strategist! period.

how you're not in the business advising multiple boxing world champions is beyond me. for real!

I'm joking...

you can't be fvckin serious?

to 'unsettle' your technically superior and faster opponent low blow, headbutt and wrestle him around from the get go til' the ref gives you the 'final warning' before DQ???

where's the tiniest spark of sense behind this absolutely idiotic masterplan?

how u reckon your boxer possibly could finish even the first round without getting disqualified if he'd foul away like a madman and break every rule in the book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SVvyx8sR0

just saw your link now...

no discussion there. ward was a dirty, disgusting 'fighter' always. his headbutts, ellbows & low blows were ALWAYS INTENTIONAL, ILLEGAL AND PER THE RULES HE SHOULD'VE BEEN DQ'ED IN NUMEROUS OF HIS FIGHTS.

for whatever reasons he was protected by the whole corrupt network and got away with it (not even that if u consider real fans of the sport, who got a bit of a clue and honor the rules, always hated ward for his illegal shit and not owning up to it in the least).

but let that disgusting shit try any other fighter and see what happens.

[adislav123]

pushing, holding til the ref breaks, borderline punches to get your opponents attention snd other 'rough shit' are part of the game.

blatant ellbows, headbutts head first with no other intention than to cut and no punching while coming forward and repeated low blows right on the marbles, is where the line should be drawn.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Haney on Kambosos Rematch: You Gotta Do The Right Thing To Get Me There Again

Devin Haney wants to claw back what he believes he willingly forfeited in his fight with George Kambosos Jr. for all four lightweight titles.

Haney, who defeated Kambosos in Kambosos’ homeland of Australia last month to become the undisputed 135-pound champion, suggested in a recent interview that his rematch with the Aussie was not a sure thing and that the bone of contention may be regarding his compensation. In order to fight Kambosos, Haney had to agree to an immediate rematch—in Australia, once more—in the event that he defeated Kambosos. Haney outclassed Kambosos over 12 rounds to win a comfortable unanimous decision.

Recently, Kambosos declared he had activated his rematch clause for a fight to take place in the fall.

But Haney (28-0, 15 KOs), who agreed to strict stipulations put forward by Lou DiBella, Kambosos’ promoter, and Top Rank, has consistently stated that he accepted a relatively modest paycheck in the first fight, a concession that his team claimed they were all too happy to accept in order to get the opportunity. Now, as the undisputed champion, Haney believes a rematch needs, from a financial perspective, to reflect his new status.

“I took the short end of the stick (in the first fight),” Haney told spam.com. “I took less money for me and my team to go over there, against all odds, and we came out victorious—like he did against Teo[fimo Lopez]. You know, at the end of the day he (Kambosos) got paid well. He did good.

“If you want us to come back, you gotta do the right thing to get me and my team there again.”

Haney, 23, insisted that he will be fighting in October and that it may not necessarily involve Kambosos, despite the fact that the Las Vegan denizen is contractually obliged to do so. Haney’s promoter, Bob Arum of Top Rank, suggested recently that Kambosos (20-1, 10 KOs) might be better off fighting a tune-up before heading into an immediate rematch with Haney, given how comprehensively Haney had defeated Kambosos.

“We just gotta see what’s next,” Haney said of the Kambosos rematch. “We don’t know. We’re weighing our options. Possibly, possibly not. We just gotta wait and see what makes the most sense for me and my team. That’s what’s next. But [in] October I will be fighting. But we don’t know who yet.”

“They can come over here (in the United States) and get it,” Haney continued. “Or, if we do go over there it just gotta make sense for us to go back. You know what that means by ‘make sense.’

[brilo33]

you're a genius! world top level boxing strategist! period.

how you're not in the business advising multiple boxing world champions is beyond me. for real!

I'm joking...

you can't be fvckin serious?

to 'unsettle' your technically superior and faster opponent low blow, headbutt and wrestle him around from the get go til' the ref gives you the 'final warning' before DQ???

where's the tiniest spark of sense behind this absolutely idiotic masterplan?

how u reckon your boxer possibly could finish even the first round without getting disqualified if he'd foul away like a madman and break every rule in the book?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1SVvyx8sR0

just saw your link now...

no discussion there. ward was a dirty, disgusting 'fighter' always. his headbutts, ellbows & low blows were ALWAYS INTENTIONAL, ILLEGAL AND PER THE RULES HE SHOULD'VE BEEN DQ'ED IN NUMEROUS OF HIS FIGHTS.

for whatever reasons he was protected by the whole corrupt network and got away with it (not even that if u consider real fans of the sport, who got a bit of a clue and honor the rules, always hated ward for his illegal shit and not owning up to it in the least).

but let that disgusting shit try any other fighter and see what happens.

agree i ant for that iam a boxing fan. but i was saying there isnt a way i can see kamboso beating hanley, so that is what i was getting at

[Bandog]

Haney should move up. He's at least the size of Floyd, and a massive drainer. That's going to get harder.

I think he'll have more power and punch resistance that he needs to effectively compete at 140 and 147. He's got to be below 5% bf at 135.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don’t see what Kam does differently ..

[Ruthless-RKO]

Devin Haney-George Kambosos rematch being planned for mid-October on ESPN, sources say

The Devin Haney-George Kambosos rematch for the undisputed lightweight championship is being planned for Oct. 16 in Australia, sources tell ESPN, which will accommodate an ESPN prime-time telecast on Oct. 15.

The bout could land at Melbourne's Rod Laver Arena, home of the Australian Open, but no site has been finalized yet.

When Haney signed to fight Kambosos in March, the 23-year-old agreed to a return bout in the champion's native Australia later this year. Haney routed Kambosos via unanimous decision in June to capture all four 135-pound titles, and Kambosos quickly exercised the rematch clause.

With the rematch deal already agreed to beforehand, there were no negotiations necessary the second time around. The only loose ends that needed to be tied up were the date and the site.

Despite the lopsided nature of the first meeting, Kambosos (20-1, 10 KOs) is set to receive a second crack at the titles he won from Teofimo Lopez in November in ESPN's Upset of the Year.

The 29-year-old was unable to deal with Haney's excellent jab and defense and grew frustrated as the fight wore on. And this was a far cry from Kambosos' thrilling win over Lopez, which featured both men on the canvas. Haney (28-0, 15 KOs). elected to box from the outside and pile up rounds. Neither boxer was ever in any danger during the tactical bout at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne.

Kambosos is rated No. 4 at lightweight by ESPN. Haney, who fights out of Las Vegas, is rated No. 1.

[brilo33]

surprised that is in aus, i think the crowd are going to have to really back there man make it hostile there for haney, to be honest good experience for haney fighting out of america tho i think it will be his last time

[KiwiRider]

A much more one sided poll..

I think you would need to have missed the first fight to think Kambosos can win the second.
Heck, I don't give him more than a 5% chance and I've been a fan of his for about 4 years.
I'll still watch it, but I feel it may be difficult to see Kambosos run out of ideas for another 12 rounds

[brilo33]

haney is a class boxer and on top of that he is bigger longer reach quicker shown has the discipline just to box not get hit,but does have the power to flattern kambosos if he thinks he can rush in and even if kam rushes in haney shown he will just tie him up and start again, fair play to kamb for fighting again ,

[gregregegg]

A much more one sided poll..

I think you would need to have missed the first fight to think Kambosos can win the second.
Heck, I don't give him more than a 5% chance and I've been a fan of his for about 4 years.
I'll still watch it, but I feel it may be difficult to see Kambosos run out of ideas for another 12 rounds

was a frustrating watch, He ran out of ideas in a round, only because he wasnt willing to get a bit reckless. this time surely they know he has to take more risks... Only Idea he needs is to rumble. Got to risk getting chinned himself to set a pace, or land a punch that hurts haney. Still a low odds stratergy, but definatly his best chance. Semi reckless agression. (probably also needs haney to have a hard weight cut to drain his gass tank and weaken his chin.)

[coneye]

Think the fact is Kambosis just is'nt good enough in ANY dept to win this fight ,,, He gets bettered by footwork , defence , offence , jab , power , strenght , skill , Only thing Kambosis has thats better than Haneys , is tattoos

[brilo33]

A much more one sided poll..

I think you would need to have missed the first fight to think Kambosos can win the second.
Heck, I don't give him more than a 5% chance and I've been a fan of his for about 4 years.
I'll still watch it, but I feel it may be difficult to see Kambosos run out of ideas for another 12 rounds

was a frustrating watch, He ran out of ideas in a round, only because he wasnt willing to get a bit reckless. this time surely they know he has to take more risks... Only Idea he needs is to rumble. Got to risk getting chinned himself to set a pace, or land a punch that hurts haney. Still a low odds stratergy, but definatly his best chance. Semi reckless agression. (probably also needs haney to have a hard weight cut to drain his gass tank and weaken his chin.)

i dont think it was him not even taking risks he wasnt big enough to impose himself on haney or has a good enough jab i think that is why he could even come on the offensive as haney moves well, he hit haney with a couple of hooks i think maybe has to build on that ,

[brilo33]

Think the fact is Kambosis just is'nt good enough in ANY dept to win this fight ,,, He gets bettered by footwork , defence , offence , jab , power , strenght , skill , Only thing Kambosis has thats better than Haneys , is tattoos

that and he is the spartan

[KiwiRider]

A much more one sided poll..

I think you would need to have missed the first fight to think Kambosos can win the second.
Heck, I don't give him more than a 5% chance and I've been a fan of his for about 4 years.
I'll still watch it, but I feel it may be difficult to see Kambosos run out of ideas for another 12 rounds

was a frustrating watch, He ran out of ideas in a round, only because he wasnt willing to get a bit reckless. this time surely they know he has to take more risks... Only Idea he needs is to rumble. Got to risk getting chinned himself to set a pace, or land a punch that hurts haney. Still a low odds stratergy, but definatly his best chance. Semi reckless agression. (probably also needs haney to have a hard weight cut to drain his gass tank and weaken his chin.)

It was a frustrating watch alright
Not just because I'm a Kambosos fan, but like you said- he ran out of ideas so quickly.
Since he got the big signing, Kambosos has been surrounded by the best people - coaching, diet, strength. And yet - no plan B, no change of tack from his team.
I mean, there is plenty to watch on Haney. He has been on television, he didn't do anything new or radical.
If Kambosos can turn it around, it will be the win of the decade so far.

[Bandog]

Think the fact is Kambosis just is'nt good enough in ANY dept to win this fight ,,, He gets bettered by footwork , defence , offence , jab , power , strenght , skill , Only thing Kambosis has thats better than Haneys , is tattoos