George Foreman Denies Sexual Assault Allegations In Forthcoming Lawsuit,

[jimmystone]

What's missing from the story is the age of the complainants at the time. Given that the article mentions Foreman knowing their fathers, there's a hint that the alleged victims were below the age of consent.

Let due process run its course. I hope George is innocent.

[Enlightened-One]

What's missing from the story is the age of the complainants at the time. Given that the article mentions Foreman knowing their fathers, there's a hint that the alleged victims were below the age of consent.

Let due process run its course. I hope George is innocent.

Why?

The alleged incidents took place more than 45 years ago, before George’s 28th birthday.

The women could have been roughly the same age as Foreman, with their father’s in their mid-forties or even older around the dates of the alleged incidents.

The women haven’t even filed their lawsuits yet.

All we know is that they wanted $25m from Big George to go away and remain silent, but Foreman refuses to cave into their financial demands and would instead prefer to go to court to clear his name.

No one is accusing George of committing paedophilia.

[apollo creed]

what's so touching about EO's selfless stance against rape victims is that, as a lifelong virgin Incel, the redressing of the balance that he is perpetuating, away from alleged and potential rape and sexual assault victims and in favour of alleged and potential rapists, is one he'll never have to take advantage of himself.

I'm starting to think that EO is actually an old SHE troll that craves 24/7 for some hard-rock bbc.

[Bandog]

what's so touching about EO's selfless stance against rape victims is that, as a lifelong virgin Incel, the redressing of the balance that he is perpetuating, away from alleged and potential rape and sexual assault victims and in favour of alleged and potential rapists, is one he'll never have to take advantage of himself.

I'm starting to think that EO is actually an old SHE troll that craves 24/7 for some hard-rock bbc.

Probably had the nickname "dog ears". Was he the person I read about that was disappointed when he traveled to London and found out "Big Ben" was a clock?

[apollo creed]

what's so touching about EO's selfless stance against rape victims is that, as a lifelong virgin Incel, the redressing of the balance that he is perpetuating, away from alleged and potential rape and sexual assault victims and in favour of alleged and potential rapists, is one he'll never have to take advantage of himself.

I'm starting to think that EO is actually an old SHE troll that craves 24/7 for some hard-rock bbc.

Probably had the nickname "dog ears". Was he the person I read about that was disappointed when he traveled to London and found out "Big Ben" was a clock?

[Kronkpride]

I am so sick of these civil suits for rapes and sexual assaults. If someone does something criminal or is accused of it they need to be in criminal courts. This type of stuff has no business being in a civil court unless they have gotten a verdict in criminal court.

And especially F off to these ancient types of claims. Even if it were true the women would be scum of the Earth sickos for not bringing criminal charges when it happened and also for not saying a damn thing for decades to protect and warn others of their attacker's nature.

Hopefully Big George's law team beats these crazy claims and then sues the crap out of these whackos destroying his name.

[KiwiRider]

I am so sick of these civil suits for rapes and sexual assaults. If someone does something criminal or is accused of it they need to be in criminal courts. This type of stuff has no business being in a civil court unless they have gotten a verdict in criminal court.

And especially F off to these ancient types of claims. Even if it were true the women would be scum of the Earth sickos for not bringing criminal charges when it happened and also for not saying a damn thing for decades to protect and warn others of their attacker's nature.

Hopefully Big George's law team beats these crazy claims and then sues the crap out of these whackos destroying his name.

Agree Kronkie, if they want justice - get them put in jail, don't wait 30 years and skim some of their millions off the top

[881073]

They probably heard he got a few dimes nowadays, otherwise they would probably have never spoken about this again.

[Lenny Cravats]

Some grim views on this thread, for sure.

I'm not an expert on the legal system in the US, but it is different to ours.

There are many, many reasons why women wait a long time before coming forward with allegations of sexual abuse.
My own wife has kept quiet about hers for 30 years.
I hope that one day she will find the closure she needs, and if that's successfully blocking it out and keeping quiet, or taking this pudendum through the courts, I'll be both by her side and simultaneously expecting, and helping her to overcome, the kind of misogynist shite thrown around in here that she's only in it for money and every other thing that's being said on here.
Shameful.

Let defend himself.

[KiwiRider]

Some grim views on this thread, for sure.

Maybe, but I think the consensus would be that justice is jail for the guilty, not necessarily a monetary case.

[Lenny Cravats]

Some grim views on this thread, for sure.

Maybe, but I think the consensus would be that justice is jail for the guilty, not necessarily a monetary case.

As I said, I'm not anything like an expert in US law, but it is my understanding that, after a a certain time has elapsed, your only option is to sue and settle, or it can be brought before a court.

[Bandog]

Wondering if Big George contacted EO as his attorney yet?

[bollocks]

George needs to counter sue for $12.50

[Enlightened-One]

Some grim views on this thread, for sure.

I'm not an expert on the legal system in the US, but it is different to ours.

There are many, many reasons why women wait a long time before coming forward with allegations of sexual abuse.
My own wife has kept quiet about hers for 30 years.
I hope that one day she will find the closure she needs, and if that's successfully blocking it out and keeping quiet, or taking this pudendum through the courts, I'll be both by her side and simultaneously expecting, and helping her to overcome, the kind of misogynist shite thrown around in here that she's only in it for money and every other thing that's being said on here.
Shameful.

Let defend himself.

Are you saying that it’s misogynist to support the existence of rules, such as the statute of limitations, for allegations of sexual assault, due to memories fading, a complete lack of evidence and also when it’s simply a case of one person’s word against another’s?

Every single adult that was alive half a century ago are either dead, have dementia or are elderly.

It’s unacceptable to accuse someone of committing a heinous crime almost fifty years ago, without there being a single shred of credible evidence.

If you seriously feel that’s being misogynistic, then you’re a complete moron that automatically assumes guilt, based on nothing but genitalia!!!

Seriously! Are we supposed to have rules declaring that all people with uteruses are always truthful and should always be believed?

I really want to hear your counter argument, because I genuinely believe you cannot possibly have one.

I want to know the reason why you seriously feel that it’s impossible for people with vaginas to lie!!!

[Nightmare Roy]

Amazing how you fellows can't even consider the possibility that he is guilty. I for one think that he is. It sounds like these women were underage when George used his friendship with their fathers to gain access to them. That's pretty low really to use weak men to access their underage daughters. How underage were they? Older than 15 I hope. I've never bought into this darling act from George, you can see that he is a phony a mile away. Hope he gets exposed for what he really is.

It could be true, any guy who calls all his kids George is a fcuking wrong un, no doubt, however why wait 45 years?

[Lenny Cravats]

Some grim views on this thread, for sure.

I'm not an expert on the legal system in the US, but it is different to ours.

There are many, many reasons why women wait a long time before coming forward with allegations of sexual abuse.
My own wife has kept quiet about hers for 30 years.
I hope that one day she will find the closure she needs, and if that's successfully blocking it out and keeping quiet, or taking this pudendum through the courts, I'll be both by her side and simultaneously expecting, and helping her to overcome, the kind of misogynist shite thrown around in here that she's only in it for money and every other thing that's being said on here.
Shameful.

Let defend himself.

Are you saying that it’s misogynist to support the existence of rules, such as the statute of limitations, for allegations of sexual assault, due to memories fading, a complete lack of evidence and also when it’s simply a case of one person’s word against another’s?

Every single adult that was alive half a century ago are either dead, have dementia or are elderly.

It’s unacceptable to accuse someone of committing a heinous crime almost fifty years ago, without there being a single shred of credible evidence.

If you seriously feel that’s being misogynistic, then you’re a complete moron that automatically assumes guilt, based on nothing but genitalia!!!

Seriously! Are we supposed to have rules declaring that all people with uteruses are always truthful and should always be believed?

I really want to hear your counter argument, because I genuinely believe you cannot possibly have one.

I want to know the reason why you seriously feel that it’s impossible for people with vaginas to lie!!!

You really are thick as mince.

Firstly, you continually repeat the idea that there is no evidence.
This shows that you lack any experience or knowledge of investigations or legal thresholds.
Stories are corroborated, or not, through a detailed process. The threshold of this corroboration is detailed.
A suggestion that evidence cannot be gathered after a few decades is ill-informed, completely ignorant to investigative procedures and shows a level of arrogance that is, I'd say, one of your most obvious and unappealing characteristics (next to your absolute fuckwittery).


The misogyny I'm talking about is the accusations levelled at the women, suggestions that they, and all alleged victims of historical sexual abuse should sell their houses, or judges should throw it out of court, or stating that, without any knowledge, understanding or information, that George is 'innocent'.

The statute of limitations, well -- that's a big topic. Happy to discuss it's pros and cons, but it wouldn't matter here. The fact that it does exist, means that the women have only this option available to them.

Now, when some women speak out about those that have used their fame and fortune to sexually abuse, others come forward.
Again, these claims are investigated and corroborated.
There are countless examples of this. Saville, Cosby, Weinstein, Spacey, Harris. (Harris being found guilty of crimes in the same timeframe of George's alleged victims).

The next example of your own misogyny is your over exuberant, frankly quite bizarre, tangent about me believing that women 'can't lie', and that I am 'assuming guilt based on genitalia', and 'people with uteruses should always be believed'.
Now, the fact that you said the same thing three times shows that this is something you got a little excited about.
It's also a cheap tactic. Defend your position by claiming that I've made an argument I didn't make - the most basic, crude, transparent strawman I think I've ever seen.

If you read my post, and yours, only one of us has assumed guilt. And it is you.
Only one of us seemingly knows nothing about investigation into historical crimes. And it is you.
Only one of us is thick as mince. I'll give you a clue who that is. It isn't me.

[Lenny Cravats]

I'd also point out that, when someone has mentioned their own wife's sexual abuse, and that fact that it's been 30 years, replying to that post in the way you did is really poor form.

[HomicideHenry]

It's such a bizarre thing because if I was truly a victim I would have went after George Foreman when he made his comeback in 1987, or shortly after, because that was when he started publicly showing the Uncle George persona in a major way internationally, even though from 1977 onwards he was completely different from who he was prior to the Jimmy Young fight and would occasionally appear on TBN.

Why wait until now, of all times. Because Foreman's old and much more quiet than he used to be? Because they figure since he's older he would be a pushover and just hand over the money rather than go through a trial?

Mind you George Foreman will admit that when he was a younger man he was menacing and cruel and violent. "I'd hit man woman or child," I heard him once say in an interview reflecting on his life as a heavyweight contender and champion.

So if he isn't shy about talking about different crimes or horrible activities that he done when he was younger, it's kind of strange to see him deny something like that unless he did not do it.

I'm reminded of a quote from Mike Tyson when he talked about going to prison for 3 years, where he said that he done an awful lot of things in his life worth prison time but that was not one of them.

Mind you, I'm not going to call George Foreman an angel or anything like that. Even though he was a changed man genuinely when he came back there was still a side to George Foreman that was scary--- which was something that Teddy Atlas tried to install into Michael Moorer's psyche that the kindly old grandpa act was something of an act because there was still the old George Foreman down in there.

Jim Lampley kind of said the same thing that's when the cameras go off the smile disappears and George Foreman can be a little intimidating, "Don't be f*cking with me Jimmy." But, I think for the most part that's everybody and shouldn't be read into too much.

[joshj909]

I'd also point out that, when someone has mentioned their own wife's sexual abuse, and that fact that it's been 30 years, replying to that post in the way you did is really poor form.

I wouldn't waste your time with some of these absolute idiots. They don't understand how legal processes work, how differently victims of crimes may react or the fact that there's a difference between wishing your idols are innocent and claiming they are innocent without knowing the facts.

[coneye]

I'd also point out that, when someone has mentioned their own wife's sexual abuse, and that fact that it's been 30 years, replying to that post in the way you did is really poor form.

I wouldn't waste your time with some of these absolute idiots. They don't understand how legal processes work, how differently victims of crimes may react or the fact that there's a difference between wishing your idols are innocent and claiming they are innocent without knowing the facts.

Could be argued theres a difference between , a completly guilty man , and an innocent man trying to be scammed by a couple off scammers for millions of dollars nearly half a century after the supposed crime happenned and prove does'nt exist , but what does exist is the proven fact the accussers were willing to walk away if given millions of dollars

[Lenny Cravats]

I'd also point out that, when someone has mentioned their own wife's sexual abuse, and that fact that it's been 30 years, replying to that post in the way you did is really poor form.

I wouldn't waste your time with some of these absolute idiots. They don't understand how legal processes work, how differently victims of crimes may react or the fact that there's a difference between wishing your idols are innocent and claiming they are innocent without knowing the facts.

Could be argued theres a difference between , a completly guilty man , and an innocent man trying to be scammed by a couple off scammers for millions of dollars nearly half a century after the supposed crime happenned and prove does'nt exist , but what does exist is the proven fact the accussers were willing to walk away if given millions of dollars

Mate, it's the only thing they can do - it's not like the UK. You can't bring criminal proceedings (as we would understand them) only civil cases (again, as we would understand them).

Ultimately, for us, the same people that were abused by Rolf Harris, would have had to go down this route. As would Saville victims, should they have made the complaints when he was alive.

Now, I want to be clear, for the fuckwitts like EO, I have not, and will not comment on George's guilt or innocence - I am not qualified to do so.
This is the only way for these women to proceed, it would be different in the UK.
And as for why victims of abuse leave it so long, there's a myriad of reasons. One oft-quoted study found the average being 24 years after abuse the crime is reported. *
This is then, predictably, sadly, automatically met with suspicion and derision.
Just like my wife would be, should she ever go down any legal route - because the pudendum has money.

Edit
* For children at the time of the crimes.

The time for reporting for adults would, presumably, be significantly less, but sexual abuse and rape is well known to be significantly under reported.

[Lenny Cravats]

I'd also point out that, when someone has mentioned their own wife's sexual abuse, and that fact that it's been 30 years, replying to that post in the way you did is really poor form.

I wouldn't waste your time with some of these absolute idiots. They don't understand how legal processes work, how differently victims of crimes may react or the fact that there's a difference between wishing your idols are innocent and claiming they are innocent without knowing the facts.

Yeah, I think that's it.

Some people don't quite understand that they don't have to 'take a side' in everything.
I haven't.
I'm just dissapointed in some of the comments here and EO's theatrical, nonsensical, hogwash is grating at the best of times... But the celebratory fashion of his own ignorance and fuckwittery in this thread is another level. Even for him.

[H8Usernames]

Amazing how you fellows can't even consider the possibility that he is guilty. I for one think that he is. It sounds like these women were underage when George used his friendship with their fathers to gain access to them. That's pretty low really to use weak men to access their underage daughters. How underage were they? Older than 15 I hope. I've never bought into this darling act from George, you can see that he is a phony a mile away. Hope he gets exposed for what he really is.

It could be true, any guy who calls all his kids George is a fcuking wrong un, no doubt, however why wait 45 years?

I'm not a woke fellow by any means but lets look at a timeline for a 15 year old girl who has just been sexually used by a 28 year old man and lets keep in mind that George could be innocent so this is just a random case but could also apply to him.

First 6 months. "He is my boyfriend, he is going to take care of me etc thoughts."
Months 6-12. I need to move on and have my own life.
2nd-4th year. My father wouldn't want me to rat on his friend, I don't want to disappoint my dad.
6-8th. Its been so long, who would believe me. How would this effect my reputation.
8 years have past and person is now 23 years old.
8th-18th. This will bring shame on me and my kids and spouse etc, better not to say anything.
Person is now 33 years old.
18th and onwards. This will damage my reputation in my workplace. "The whore that big George used" Who will believe me now 18 years after the fact.
45th year. Speaking about sexual abuse has become more socially acceptable and my kids now have their own lives. I am well settled in my job and don't have to worry about any consequences of coming forward. What the man did was wrong and he should acknowledge that and suffer the consequences of his actions.

So while it is possible that this is some woman who had a legitimate one night stand at the age of 19 with George only to get pumped and dumped and is now making noise because of something that was her own fault. It's also possible that George truly did something wrong and that the reason for waiting 45 years to bring it to light are legitimate.

Taking a stand one way or the other is a bit stupid because we don't yet know what the allegations are and we certainly don't know anything about their validity.

And then there is a bigger question of age, if we were to explore our family trees thousands of years back then we would find in it that we all come from mothers we weren't more than 12 or 13 years old. In some times and in some parts of the world people have acquired maturity at earlier ages than now and it has been socially acceptable for younger people to be in relationships with older people. It is impossible to say even if a 15 year old entered into a relationship with George 45 years ago how wrong or how justifiable that was, only they know what was in their heads but if the older party only left fond memories with the younger one then it would be strange for complaints to surface.

I recently did however see a documentary on youtube showing a 73 year old man having a relationship with a 16 year old filipina woman and sure that doesn't sound ideal but even though humans made laws that say that this 16 year old isn't a woman, nature gave her puberty much earlier than that and with the harsh conditions that she was facing there in her life, did this 73 year old fellow really make her life worse somehow?

[gilgamesh]

It's a good thing I ain't a civil court judge let me tell you. Because if I were as soon as I heard "He sexually assaulted me. It was 30 years ago"

It'd be bang the gavel and case dismissed.

If it took you this long to say something about it. It wasn't that goddamn important was it?

[H8Usernames]

It's a good thing I ain't a civil court judge let me tell you. Because if I were as soon as I heard "He sexually assaulted me. It was 30 years ago"

It'd be bang the gavel and case dismissed.

If it took you this long to say something about it. It wasn't that goddamn important was it?

Is importance the thing that matters?

If I steal 10$ from you. Shouldn't I get punished for that or should folks just randomly steal 10$ from you like 5 times per day? Small amounts don't matter right?

Also perhaps these things were of the utmost importance. To keep your head clear to go on with your life and to keep your reputation untainted in order to be successful?

Let's say that you had been raped by a dozen men when you were a kid and a teenager. Is this something that you would tell everyone and something that you would want everyone to know?