Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford | Showtime PPV - July 29, 2023

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great fight that should have happened already.

both will defo have the immediate rematch clause implemented in their contracts...

though i'm not sure if Spence will want to enact it after Crawford, one way or the other, beats him.

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Stephen Espinoza admits Errol Spence vs Terence Crawford negotiations have hit a snag, but still hopeful a deal will be struck

The Showtime executive gives an update on where things stand for the biggest fight to make in boxing



Espinoza on the sense that a Spence-Crawford fight might be falling apart during ongoing negotiations

“Look, when you have a negotiation that — I know it hasn’t been public, which I think is a good thing — but it’s still highly scrutinized, and a lot of interest. And I think most negotiations that go on for a while, they have a life span in ups and downs. So I don’t think it’s dead or close to dead. I think there are points where things are moving more quickly, and then points where things are sort of stuck at impasse. And we’re a little bit stuck but I don’t think anyone’s ready to throw in the towel, least of all the two fighters.

“So, yeah, there’s some slow-going, but the discussions are still ongoing, people are still trying to make this work. I think one of the most positive things is that no one’s talking about it publicly. I know that’s bad news for (the media and the public), and I wish I could share more because I know there’s a lot of interest, but at the same time I don’t want to be the guy who blows it up because I say something that irritates one side or the other and they walk away."

“I am still optimistic that it gets done. There’s still a variety of conversations going on, and I still think it’s very, very possible to get that done this year.”

On if he strongly believes Crawford’s next fight will air on Showtime either way

“It’s a good question. I mean, to be completely honest, we haven’t had discussions with him or his team on that. Everything has been focused on Spence vs Crawford and that’s the focus. So, look, we’re gonna continue to try to make that and even if it dies we’re gonna try to revive it — try to revive it again because it’s an important fight and it’s a fight that both fighters want very badly. So I think that’s where my optimism comes from, is the fact that both fighters are 100% convinced that this is the fight that makes sense next."

[NateJR]

If this fight happens its because the fighters want it. Not the promoters, not the networks, but the fighters. For being such a high profile fight and the hype around or lack there of, they're making a already tough fight to sell to the general public even harder by not promoting this fight right now. The longer they wait, the harder the fight will be to sell. Time is running out and this fight has a chance to make people alot of money, buy as it is now, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

[Thomastearns]

Crawford might be unique amongst modern boxers in that he's actually trying to age himself out of a big fight.

Whatever world he's living in only bears a passing resemblance to the real one.

Spence, meanwhile still has plenty of other options right now.

[Bandog]

Spence has started training for a mega fight, good sign.

[Cent0089]

I think this is already done deal. No way they can squeeze more money in future than now. No boxing fan will respect these two idiots if they wont fight each other.

[Bandog]

I think this is already done deal. No way they can squeeze more money in future than now. No boxing fan will respect these two idiots if they wont fight each other.

If it IS done, which I doubt, they are stupid for not promoting the fight.

[Mexi-Box]

Necessary fight, but both guys can't draw flies. Will this be the first WW undisputed match where no one cares outside of hardcore boxing fans? 500K PPV sales would be great, but outside of PBC putting up funny numbers, I can't imagine this realistically breaking 300k.

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I think this is already done deal. No way they can squeeze more money in future than now. No boxing fan will respect these two idiots if they wont fight each other.

If it's not done yet, it has to be the money. Both guys have a huge ego, and they're nowhere near the draw they think they are. I wonder if PBC's investors aren't convinced that it's worth giving these guys a fortune in pay for like negative PPV profits. Spence/Brook did a pitiful 200k views, IIRC. Crawford did the worst ppv buy rate I've ever seen. I think it was like 75k or something. Something has got to give here.

[Bandog]

Big demands of guaranteed money is likely the problem, and lessens their motivation to promote the fight too.

Neither guy is a big smack talker, and average fans like that more than skills it seems.

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yeah, yah, believe it when i see it.

[Enlightened-One]

We’ve been hearing about the imminent likelihood of seeing a Spence-Crawford bout “soon”, but nothing ever seems to come to fruition.

It’s abundantly clear that whatever obstacles previously existed still haven’t been addressed, because the fight would have been officially announced by now, but it hasn't...

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see the fight, but a continuous stream of tweets from anonymous sources speculating about something being imminent that never seems to happen, leads me to believe this one is just another false alarm that should be ignored.

[Perkin Warbeck]

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Apparently the PBC submitted two three-fight deals. Crawford rejected both of them.

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Apparently the PBC submitted two three-fight deals. Crawford rejected both of them.

From what the 'Tru School Sports' video suggested (how accurate it is, I haven't a clue), the offer as it stands from the PBC is a $14m guarantee for a 3 fight deal - $8m for the first, and $3m for two subsequent bouts. As the tweet suggests, allegedly they won't be going above $15m all told.

[Enlightened-One]

Apparently the PBC submitted two three-fight deals. Crawford rejected both of them.

From what the 'Tru School Sports' video suggested (how accurate it is, I haven't a clue), the offer as it stands from the PBC is a $14m guarantee for a 3 fight deal - $8m for the first, and $3m for two subsequent bouts. As the tweet suggests, allegedly they won't be going above $15m all told.

The key point to remember is that Terence Crawford isn’t a PBC fighter. He won’t be granted the opportunity to face Errol Spence Jr. until he signs the contract.

And Matchroom and Top Rank have both claimed they have no interest in signing Terence Crawford.
This isn’t hearsay, it’s a combination of repeated public declarations, combined with lawsuit documentation.

Therefore, if no one is bidding against the PBC, then what alternatives does Terence Crawford have?

For the record, Bud’s minimum purse guarantee for the Shawn Porter bout was only $6m. His minimum for the Kell Brook fight was $3.5m.

[Bandog]

Apparently the PBC submitted two three-fight deals. Crawford rejected both of them.

From what the 'Tru School Sports' video suggested (how accurate it is, I haven't a clue), the offer as it stands from the PBC is a $14m guarantee for a 3 fight deal - $8m for the first, and $3m for two subsequent bouts. As the tweet suggests, allegedly they won't be going above $15m all told.

The key point to remember is that Terence Crawford isn’t a PBC fighter. He won’t be granted the opportunity to face Errol Spence Jr. until he signs the contract.

And Matchroom and Top Rank have both claimed they have no interest in signing Terence Crawford.
This isn’t hearsay, it’s a combination of repeated public declarations, combined with lawsuit documentation.

Therefore, if no one is bidding against the PBC, then what alternatives does Terence Crawford have?

For the record, Bud’s minimum purse guarantee for the Shawn Porter bout was only $6m. His minimum for the Kell Brook fight was $3.5m.

I'm glad you pointed that out! I was wondering!

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Necessary fight, but both guys can't draw flies. Will this be the first WW undisputed match where no one cares outside of hardcore boxing fans? 500K PPV sales would be great, but outside of PBC putting up funny numbers, I can't imagine this realistically breaking 300k.

That's really sad when you consider that this is probably the highest quality matchup in the sport.

Boxing is a strange sport sometimes.

[Bandog]

Necessary fight, but both guys can't draw flies. Will this be the first WW undisputed match where no one cares outside of hardcore boxing fans? 500K PPV sales would be great, but outside of PBC putting up funny numbers, I can't imagine this realistically breaking 300k.

That's really sad when you consider that this is probably the highest quality matchup in the sport.

Boxing is a strange sport sometimes.

I was crazy to suggest initially that this could do 2 million buys. Maybe if they priced it at $9.99? It would be good for the sport if they did, but never happen.
Like I also said before neither guy is good enough trash talker to promote it. They've both been spoiled on big guaranteed purses, they don't want to rely on PPV splits for their purses. Time for PBC to get creative, or find a rich guy from Saudi Arabia to dump a bunch of money into it? Sad. I hate to say it, but uncle Bob was right predicting this conundrum.

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Terence Crawford Beats Errol Spence Jr Says Canelo Alvarez

Canelo Alvarez is picking Terence Crawford to defeat Errol Spence Jr in a potential welterweight undisputed championship fight this year.

Canelo likes the skills of Crawford (38-0, 29 KOs) and is impressed with the way he’s able to seamlessly switch from southpaw to orthodox stance without losing anything.

“I think Crawford because he goes southpaw and [orthodox],” said Canelo Alvarez to spam when asked who wins the Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford fight.

“I think he’s a very difficult fighter. Just be patient and prepare myself as always and be patient,” Canelo said when asked how he would fight someone like Crawford.

“Work the body, and being patient is the key. Everybody looks to the head [of Crawford], and it’s very difficult to hit in the head that kind of fighter,” said Canelo.

“It’s a really good fight. Two great fighters. I think it’s going to be a really good fight,” said Canelo to spam about the Spence vs. Crawford clash.

“No disrespect, but I pick Crawford. I don’t think so; they so good,” said Canelo when asked if Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis is ready for Crawford and Spence. “He needs to wait, don’t be in a hurry.

“He’s [Crawford] got a lot of skills & power. He’s a smart fighter. In boxing, anything can happen; you never know, especially when two good fighters mix it up. “Three or four more,” said Canelo when asked when Boots Ennis will be ready for Crawford & Spence.

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A lot of pro's and ex boxers are picking Crawford..