CMCanavessi wrote: ↑13 Aug 2022, 15:34
I would wait for the upcoming fights (Big Mak, Zhang, Hrgovic, Ortiz, Ruiz, etc) and then re-organize it.
There's no problem reshuffling when the fights come around.
Would it be Zhang/Hrgovic/Makhmudov/Takam for you?
Yeh o mean. We can leave it vacant and if Hrg beats Zhang then he can take 15?
Who else has a fight scheduled that’s not already on the top15.
I think we might aswell fill it, even if it is to fill time.
Ajagba should probably be there is Demirezen is (or neither) but looking through all these guys record's is abysmal. It's basically a question of who faced Sour, Hammer, Wach or Forrest most recently.
The upcoming fights should give us something to work with. Not sure whoever we choose will be there in a few weeks time, I'd probably pick Zhang followed by Makhmudov should they win their next fights.
I had DDD edging Joyce up until the injury.
He has done the buisnes since then with a real spite in his work. Sometimes a loss can be a good thing for fighters. I think we forget that in this current age where 'unbeaten' seems to have more perceived value.
If you asked me who has the potential to be #15, I would say Jared Anderson, he just hasn't proved it yet...
KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Aug 2022, 16:15
I had DDD edging Joyce up until the injury.
He has done the buisnes since then with a real spite in his work. Sometimes a loss can be a good thing for fighters. I think we forget that in this current age where 'unbeaten' seems to have more perceived value.
If you asked me who has the potential to be #15, I would say Jared Anderson, he just hasn't proved it yet...
yea i did too i see dd getting in the top 10 by this time next year,and the china man is fighting the Croatian next week winner takes that spot
I’d wait until wbc strip fury. Until then undisputed is always a chance.
But if ya getting rid of him, I’d Wait and throw in the winner of hrgovic vs zhang. (Although that would be a hesitant grasp on 15th and could get leapfrogged by any good performance after it.
Got to be Hughie Fury. He only loses to fighters whose family names begin with "P", so with careful match making he is a shoe in to be future chanpion.
Plus, some had him beating Parker, which is better than Dubious taking a knee against Joyce
(Edit: tho I voted wait til next week)
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cpx2 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2022, 05:10
Think the Hughie-Hunter winner would be in with a shout. Maybe Hrgovic if he decimates Zhang, but that's probably to be expected.
gregregegg wrote: ↑13 Aug 2022, 23:33
I’d wait until wbc strip fury. Until then undisputed is always a chance.
But if ya getting rid of him, I’d Wait and throw in the winner of hrgovic vs zhang. (Although that would be a hesitant grasp on 15th and could get leapfrogged by any good performance after it.
WBC want a written confirmation from Fury by Aug 26.. which is AFTER the Usyk-AJ fight.
gregregegg wrote: ↑13 Aug 2022, 23:33
I’d wait until wbc strip fury. Until then undisputed is always a chance.
But if ya getting rid of him, I’d Wait and throw in the winner of hrgovic vs zhang. (Although that would be a hesitant grasp on 15th and could get leapfrogged by any good performance after it.
WBC want a written confirmation from Fury by Aug 26.. which is AFTER the Usyk-AJ fight.
I guess zhang/hrg winner can slip in till then, a domanant preformance from either could realisticaly move them up to 11th in my eyes... which would drop pulev to 15/16 (depending on furys decision.)..
If im fury im going to saudi... get in the ring call out the winner (even if you dont end up fighting them), and then talk to some saudi princes about what they would pay for undisputed....
cpx2 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2022, 05:10
Think the Hughie-Hunter winner would be in with a shout. Maybe Hrgovic if he decimates Zhang, but that's probably to be expected.
When are they fighting?
Don’t quote me on it, but I can remember seeing November 12th iirc? Hatton exhibition on the same date
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Aug 2022, 15:33
Who has the BEST recent win that’s not in the top15 already.
Demirezen has the best win for up to as long as the last 3 years, then it's Hunter or Ajagba with better wins in 2019. That's how bad it is trying to choose between these guys.
Dem is a tricky one, bounced back well from his loss, but it’s pretty hard to have him above Efe considering how that fight went. But it’s possible.
By the end of the year I imagine things will be quite different. I expect hele to get KOd of this list. I expect Ortiz to get bashed of this list. I expect pulev to get overtaken by mak, hrg, hughie, and Mabey DDD so that would be him off the list… . Gorman vs fabio winner will be sniffing about the fringes. Huni and Anderson may only be a year or so away…
dem is a bit like kownacki himself. put together some solid wins at this level but you can see he's a limited fighter and probably lower than top 15 on ability. also ya he did lose pretty clearly to efe, though the cards were too wide for me
hunter ...........getting a generous draw against forrest is a real blow for me. forrest is a guy beaten handily by takam and schooled by pulev in his next fight. jerry looked terrible. and some people act like zhang is sh!t but he dropped jerry 3x and drew with him too.
hughie is utterly awful to watch and lost to every guy he's fought who was ranked at the time. his wins arent really that good either. old mariusz, loser to everyone chris hammer, etc. that said i think he'd fiddle around and outpoint the likes of demmy and probably the current hunter
dubs i think is still a very handy fighter and he was doing well vs fairly highly rated joyce before getting knocked out. he's usually looked good to me. has some momentum again. i'd probably lean him of the guys on the list, but prefer to wait
yoka is okay but the pounding from bakole, and it being his most recent fight, are just too much for me to rate him top 15 atm
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oogiebe wrote: ↑14 Aug 2022, 17:53
Just keeping the spot warm for when Jared Anderson steps up (whenever that happens)
He is the best prospect I've seen in the last 5 years.
I don't count Usyk or Joyce because as soon as they turned pro, or moved to HW they were contenders.
Oleksandr Usyk - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: 20.08.2022 vs 
Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 2(1) 0 (#3)
Deontay Wilder - 42(41) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA
Joseph Parker - 30(21) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA
Andy Ruiz Jr - 34(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: 04.09.2022 vs. 
Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 2(2) 0 (#9)
Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA
Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA
Robert Helenius - 31(20) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA
Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA
He is the best prospect I've seen in the last 5 years.