Hm yeah, I was thinking this morning - He's had years of knocking over stiffs, everyone blowing smoke up his backside (even now). The first loss was supposed to be some sort of aberration, dismissed as a fluke and then the second loss more because he got outboxed and looked a bit lost with no gameplan or ideas. Now he's lost again and he tried different tactics but bizarrely, didn't stick to them. This is not Hagler switching stance in the Leonard fight to make a statement, this is a man who just isn't tactically adept enough at the very highest level.Cyclops wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 12:42 I'm not going to lay into Joshua. He's only a human and you have to feel bad for somebody who probably feels like he's lost so much: his own self respect, his own self image as an immortal warrior God, his public front as the same: a giant indomitable adonis... A kind of mythological figure: reduced to just a man. F*ck, that's got to hurt, hasn't it?
Not only did he get beat, but he made himself look like a massive knob. I mean, an absolute f*cking tool.
A lot of us have been there. Certainly me, after a night on the sauce and the sniff, having made a massive prick out of ourselves thinking what we were saying and how we were behaving at the time was fine and justified, only to come down and sober up and realise we'd been f*cking dickheads causing everybody around us to cringe and reconsider why they liked us in the first place.
For AJ it wasn't gak and booze, but concussion and adrenalin.
Regardless, the humiliation is real. And it's not just amongst friends. It's the whole world laughing at you.
Let's just look at our four kings at Heavyweight: Joshua, Usyk, Fury and Wilder, and consider that only one of them isn't a bizarre deluded contradictory grandiose weirdo. Usyk is the only one defensively sound enough to not ship the punishment the other three have. We all enjoy ourselves on these boards having a pop at these blokes and the bollocks they come out with, but maybe there's a discussion to be had about a generation of gigantic heavyweights brain damaging each other for our entertainment and maybe reserving the ridicule a little, no matter how tempting it may be?
Fury, Wilder, AJ....
CTE is real, lads.
Joshua's boxing last night was the best I've ever seen from him. F*cking brilliant. Usyk is a generational talent. AJ held his own against him and didn't get stopped, and had his moments. That's some achievement.
So he's become a walking, trite cliche machine who generates cash and it's almost a presumption he'll win. Imagine how his head is with Usyk living there rent free now for 24 rounds. A much smaller, lighter punching fighter. No wonder he had a strop.
Not that it's an excuse but the mask definitely slipped. He must be unbearable at the moment. I wonder if the paid hangers on are broing him or have left him to sulk.
I still think he could beat some top ten guys but so what, he won't beat Usyk, he definitely won't beat Fury and I'd be surprised if he lasted 90 seconds with Wilder. I guess everyone wants the cash machine to go rumbling on so he'll probably keep fighting.