Devin Haney vs. George Kambosos II | ESPN - October 15, 2022

[Bandog]

I think you would need to have missed the first fight to think Kambosos can win the second.
Heck, I don't give him more than a 5% chance and I've been a fan of his for about 4 years.
I'll still watch it, but I feel it may be difficult to see Kambosos run out of ideas for another 12 rounds

was a frustrating watch, He ran out of ideas in a round, only because he wasnt willing to get a bit reckless. this time surely they know he has to take more risks... Only Idea he needs is to rumble. Got to risk getting chinned himself to set a pace, or land a punch that hurts haney. Still a low odds stratergy, but definatly his best chance. Semi reckless agression. (probably also needs haney to have a hard weight cut to drain his gass tank and weaken his chin.)

It was a frustrating watch alright
Not just because I'm a Kambosos fan, but like you said- he ran out of ideas so quickly.
Since he got the big signing, Kambosos has been surrounded by the best people - coaching, diet, strength. And yet - no plan B, no change of tack from his team.
I mean, there is plenty to watch on Haney. He has been on television, he didn't do anything new or radical.
If Kambosos can turn it around, it will be the win of the decade so far.

You guys need to be honest with yourselves and admit he was outclassed, out-boxed, and the rematch isn't warranted. Haney is a level above Kombosis.

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was a frustrating watch, He ran out of ideas in a round, only because he wasnt willing to get a bit reckless. this time surely they know he has to take more risks... Only Idea he needs is to rumble. Got to risk getting chinned himself to set a pace, or land a punch that hurts haney. Still a low odds stratergy, but definatly his best chance. Semi reckless agression. (probably also needs haney to have a hard weight cut to drain his gass tank and weaken his chin.)

It was a frustrating watch alright
Not just because I'm a Kambosos fan, but like you said- he ran out of ideas so quickly.
Since he got the big signing, Kambosos has been surrounded by the best people - coaching, diet, strength. And yet - no plan B, no change of tack from his team.
I mean, there is plenty to watch on Haney. He has been on television, he didn't do anything new or radical.
If Kambosos can turn it around, it will be the win of the decade so far.

You guys need to be honest with yourselves and admit he was outclassed, out-boxed, and the rematch isn't warranted. Haney is a level above Kombosis.

He was outmatched and outclassed, and a rematch would not be warrented if Haney hadent signed for it, Noone thinks otherwise. Kambo had options, could of made big money fighting tank or Ryan garcia in USA, but got haney to come to aus and give him a rematch in aus. I hate it, but its smart. (i think governing bodys should ban rematch clases for fights they are sanctioning. but they havent)

But seeing a he has a rematch, its worth thinking about what he can do to win (or improve his chances at winning). I think its rumbling, I often think this for the less skilled man (AJ vs USYK i also think AJ should rumble hard early). You risk losing spectacularly, but you also chance winning.

[brilo33]

It was a frustrating watch alright
Not just because I'm a Kambosos fan, but like you said- he ran out of ideas so quickly.
Since he got the big signing, Kambosos has been surrounded by the best people - coaching, diet, strength. And yet - no plan B, no change of tack from his team.
I mean, there is plenty to watch on Haney. He has been on television, he didn't do anything new or radical.
If Kambosos can turn it around, it will be the win of the decade so far.

You guys need to be honest with yourselves and admit he was outclassed, out-boxed, and the rematch isn't warranted. Haney is a level above Kombosis.

He was outmatched and outclassed, and a rematch would not be warrented if Haney hadent signed for it, Noone thinks otherwise. Kambo had options, could of made big money fighting tank or Ryan garcia in USA, but got haney to come to aus and give him a rematch in aus. I hate it, but its smart. (i think governing bodys should ban rematch clases for fights they are sanctioning. but they havent)

But seeing a he has a rematch, its worth thinking about what he can do to win (or improve his chances at winning). I think its rumbling, I often think this for the less skilled man (AJ vs USYK i also think AJ should rumble hard early). You risk losing spectacularly, but you also chance winning.

kambosos has a good leed hook he landed it a couple of times , use that with a over hand right or hook .he isnt big enough to impose a jab on haney and haney to good to let him. i think go counter tuck up well he will problay get pushed to the ropes then look to explode that hook or over hand right i mean in all seriousness he wasnt batterd to a pulp in the first fight i mean he has a chance if he can land a few

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[H8Usernames]

Kambosos lost fair and square and even got himself outclassed by Haney in the first one. I agree that such a performance does not warrant any rematch. I would put my money on a Haney victory the second time around but this is the miracle man Kambosos and this is boxing so a Kambo win also sort of wouldn't surprise me. If I was the fellows trainer then I would have a few ideas but nothing really solid that would guarantee the delivery of a Kambo win.

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The rematch is likely to take place at the Rod Laver Arena which is a 30 minute walk from from the Marvel Stadium..

They had over 40k at the Marvel Stadium for the first bout.

Rod Laver Arena holds only 17k..

[DrDuke]

The rematch is likely to take place at the Rod Laver Arena which is a 30 minute from from the Marvel Stadium..

They had over 40k at the Marvel Stadium for the first bout.

Rod Laver Arena holds only 17k..

No one wants this sh!t again.

F*ck that recent trend of unnecessary rematches.

[gregregegg]

The rematch is likely to take place at the Rod Laver Arena which is a 30 minute walk from from the Marvel Stadium..

They had over 40k at the Marvel Stadium for the first bout.

Rod Laver Arena holds only 17k..

Victoria government must till be pumping money into this. Really makes more sense to go to Sydney or brisbane, get a fresh crowd that havent already seen there boy get dominated.

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Jason Moloney Aims To Stay Active, Wants Slot on Haney-Kambosos Undercard

Jason Moloney is hoping for a return to action in the coming months, as he continues his push towards a third world title attempt in 2022.

Moloney sits high in all of the world sanctioning bodies, and currently holds the WBC Silver and WBO international titles in the 118-pound division.

With lineal champion Naoya Inoue being in negotiations to fight WBO world champion Paul Butler for all the belts, Moloney is left with a waiting game, as he waits to challenge the winner.

Moloney, who is promoted by Bob Arum's legendary Top Rank Promotions and is managed by Australian boxing architech Tony Tolj, discussed his ideals in the interim whilst he waits for the 118 world title picture to get cleared up.

'Mayhem' stated, "I want to become world champion, and I want to stay active, so something has got to give at the moment. If Inoue fights Butler, I just want to fight as I've always done, so I would love to feature on the second Haney vs Kambosos Jr card in Australia and continue pushing for that world title shot.

"I still have points to prove to myself and to the boxing world, and I know for a fact the Jason Moloney that boxed Naoya Inoue has improved so much since. I'm in the gym always learning and improving, I wouldn't take anything away from Inoue, but I can tell you, that I've improved since and I'm ready to come of age and become a world champion and the next available opportunity.

"If Inoue and Butler don't fight, I'll fight Butler, simple. I'll travel to the UK to fight him, and I'll win. I'm not about games I come to fight."

With Haney and Kambosos Jr rumored to take place in the final third of the year in Australia, Moloney opened up about his desires to feature on that card in a prominent fashion.

The Melbourne native said, "I'd love to fight on that card in my hometown in some form against a big name. I've put on some good performances since the Inoue fight that I hope the officials at Top Rank have enjoyed, so I hope that puts me in line to fight quite high up the card.

"I've been positioned very well and I hold WBC and WBO titles currently and I'd want to defend them against a challenger that wants to fight because when a fighter stands and trades with me, I show how explosive I can be, and that's what I hope people watching enjoy to see."

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Hearn on Haney-Kambosos Rematch: The Fight Is Not Appealing Because of The First Fight

Eddie Hearn isn’t entirely sanguine on the economic potential of the undisputed lightweight rematch between Devin Haney and George Kambosos.

Hearn, the head of Matchroom Boxing and Haney’s former promoter, thinks the dominant fashion in which Haney defeated Kambosos in June at Marvel Stadium in Melbourne, Australia, to unify all four belts in the lightweight division, has spoiled the public appetite—and hence financial upside—for a return bout.

In order to fight Kambosos, Haney signed a multi-bout agreement with Top Rank and DiBella Entertainment and agreed to an immediate rematch with Kambosos in the event that Haney won. Their rematch is reportedly set to take place Oct. 16 at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, Australia.

Hearn has no involvement with either fighter, but he noted that, as someone who tried to bid for the first Kambosos-Haney fight, he was intimately aware of the financial figures that were swirling around at the time. To that end, Hearn was a bit dour on the potential of the rematch.

“That’s a tough one,” Hearn told IFL TV. “When they signed that deal—obviously I was competing in that deal, so I know the numbers. They’ve got to find a way to find the money to do Kambosos-Haney in Australia.

“The fight is not appealing because of the first fight. So I don’t know who’s gonna pay for that fight, and that means it’s going to be difficult, because if you’re George Kambosos, he must make sure that he gets that rematch in Australia because that’s what was agreed. But I don’t know where they get the money from to do it.”

Hearn’s point about Haney's dominance in the first fight has not been lost on some observers, including Bob Arum, the head of Top Rank, who suggested not long ago that it might be worthwhile for Kambosos to consider a tune-up first before heading into a rematch straightaway.

Haney defeated Kambosos, 29, by unanimous decision before a record crowd of 41,120 at Marvel Stadium. Rod Laver Stadium is considerably smaller, but can accommodate up to nearly 17,000 fans.

For Hearn, whatever the economics of the rematch, Haney is in cruise control: The 23-year-old is poised to pick up another big paycheck with the confidence that he can hang another win over Kambosos.

“If you’re Devin Haney you’re sitting pretty because you’re saying I’m gonna make a fortune in the rematch and I won the first fight easy and I’m gonna win the second fight easy,” Hearn said. "So I don’t know. Again I’m not involved in any way but it’s a bit of a—I could see how that throws out some problems, but maybe they get the funding and they just roll onto October.”

[DrDuke]

Hearn on Haney-Kambosos Rematch: The Fight Is Not Appealing Because of The First Fight

And what about Usyk-Joshua II, Eddeh?

[Thomastearns]

“That’s a tough one,” Hearn told IFL TV. “When they signed that deal—obviously I was competing in that deal, so I know the numbers. They’ve got to find a way to find the money to do Kambosos-Haney in Australia.




That's not a tough one.

Kambo has a rematch clause and they have to fight for whatever money the fans think is worth paying.

All this business about prize fighters behaving like prima donnas does nothing for all those that are willing to pay their salaries.

Imagine what would happen to our contracts if the rest of us decided that we weren't going to work unless our salary demands weren't met.

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[Counter-puncher]

wtf? most pointless rematch of a decade or more.

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wtf? most pointless rematch of a decade or more.

They should have clauses within these clauses..
better yet scrap most of the rematch clauses.

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Press Release

America’s dream maker and Australia’s emperor are primed for a second Down Under showdown to establish ultimate supremacy at 135 pounds.

Undisputed lightweight world champion Devin “The Dream” Haney will defend all the belts against Sydney native “Ferocious” George Kambosos Jr. on Saturday, Oct. 15 (Sunday afternoon, Oct. 16 local time), at Rod Laver Arena in Melbourne, Australia. Haney-Kambosos 2 will be broadcast in prime time in the United States, live on ESPN, ESPN Deportes & ESPN+.

Haney and Kambosos first tangled June 5 in Melbourne as a Victoria-record boxing crowd of 41,129 fans packed Marvel Stadium to watch the world’s best lightweights unify the division. Haney neutralized Kambosos and earned a clear points verdict to become the undisputed champion.

Promoted by Top Rank, Devin Haney Promotions, DiBella Entertainment, Ferocious Promotions, Duco Events, and TEG Sport, Haney-Kambosos 2 will feature a world-class undercard, and a pumped up Kambosos hell-bent on revenge. Tickets to this epic rematch will go on-sale on Thursday, Aug. 25, at 10 am AEST via tegsport.com.au.

“George Kambosos is quiet right now like he should have been before our first fight. I wish him a healthy training camp,” Haney said. “I’m expecting a hungry and determined Kambosos on October 16th in Melbourne. I will be prepared for any adjustment he brings. This is a great opportunity to gain more Aussie fans and add to my legacy.”

“Devin Haney is a special fighter, but you can never count out George Kambosos Jr., especially when his most ardent supporters will be out in full force,” said Top Rank chairman Bob Arum. “These are the two best lightweights in the world, and it will be another memorable event in Melbourne.”

Kambosos said, “I am looking forward to October 16th at Rod Laver Arena, and that’s where I will do my talking. Inside the ring.”

“George Kambosos Jr. is again the hungry challenger, chasing Devin Haney’s belts, with a chance to regain it all on home soil,” said Lou DiBella, President of DiBella Entertainment. "Kambosos-Haney 1 was the Devin Haney show. George is going to have to fight a completely different fight to get that victory, and he knows it. That alone assures an action-packed rematch. The odds are against George. He needs to defy the odds yet again."

“With almost half of the crowd from the first fight hailing from outside Victoria, we look forward to welcoming boxing fans back to Melbourne to watch what will be an epic rematch, " said Steve Dimopoulos, Victoria's Minister for Tourism, Sport and Major Events. “We’re delivering a spectacular calendar of the biggest and best events – drawing more visitors to Victoria, more often and supporting businesses across the state.”

Haney (28-0, 15 KOs) returns to Melbourne intent on repeating his fistic masterclass, a victory that propelled him up the mythical pound-for-pound rankings. “The Dream” has been a history-making phenom since turning professional in Mexico less than one month after his 17th birthday. He made his U.S. debut in Las Vegas on the Manny Pacquiao-Timothy Bradley III undercard in April 2016, and at 19, he became the youngest licensed promoter in boxing history. He was awarded the WBC world championship in October 2019 and defended that belt four times before taking the 8,000-plus mile journey to battle Kambosos in his homeland. Haney overcame adversity, as his father/trainer, Bill Haney, was granted a temporary visa by the Australian government less than three days before the fight. Bill Haney arrived in Melbourne the evening before the bout, and the dynamic father-son duo made undisputed magic whilst stripping Kambosos of his three world title belts.

Kambosos (20-1, 10 KOs) became the toast of the sport with his decision verdict over Teofimo Lopez last November, which was named ESPN’s Upset of the Year. It was the culmination of a hard-fought journey for Kambosos. He fought in Malaysia, Greece, London, New York City, Connecticut, and Las Vegas as he graduated from prospect to contender. For Kambosos, who had 12 of his first 13 pro fights in Australia, the Haney super fight marked one of the most significant international sporting events to take place in Melbourne. He entered the fight as the slight underdog, but Haney was unfazed by the army of raucous Australian-Greek supporters that shook Marvel Stadium. Haney blunted Kambosos’ offensive arsenal with an educated jab to win going away. Kambosos exercised his rematch clause and is preparing to paint a masterpiece in this undisputed sequel.

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Tbf, he needs at least one or 2 more wins at the top level.

He hasn’t done enough to the level of the current top10

[margaret thatcher]

why the hell is loma still up at 6

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why the hell is loma still up at 6

I’m Pretty sure he was higher before he lost to Teo.

He’s not had the worst comeback opponents has he?

I assume it’s not about kids dropping him, some of the guys below have got to do more.

Maybe he should be lower than 6 though.

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Kambosos Says Rematch Clause Took Away 'Do Or Die' Mentality in First Haney Fight

“It’s been like that (having an urgent mindset) for my whole career,” Kambosos said during a news conference. “For the (Teofimo) Lopez fight, for the (Lee) Selby fight, even against (Mickey) Bey back in the day. It’s always been like that.

“The only time that changed was the first fight with Haney, where in the back of your mind you do have that rematch clause. It wasn’t do or die. That’s not when I’m at my best. So, do or die for me it is (for the rematch). It could be the last time you ever. Or I get all the belts back.”

[giacomino]

I know it's been brought up before but this is a classic example of why rematch clauses are absolute BS. Kambosos was thoroughly outboxed, lost by a wide margin, and gets another shot at home against the guy who waxed him the last time. I have no problem with rematches if the first fight was good and the public wants it, but this one wasn't competitive. Would be like Canelo v Callum Smith rematch at 168 if Smith didn't fight anybody in between to earn another shot

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wtf? most pointless rematch of a decade or more.

Agreed, it's very frustrating.

These rematch clauses are ridiculous, especially when the person activating it was completely shut out and did next to nothing.

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sayonara

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