Online ticket touting must be banned!

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NeilHaggath
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Online ticket touting must be banned!

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When the tickets went on sale for Eubank Jr v Benn, 20000 tickets sold out in ten minutes. This obviously isn't possible, unless they were all being grabbed en masse by automated bots.
Another ten minutes later, thousands of them appeared for resale on StubHub, at three to four times face value. It couldn't have been more blatant!
Of course, this isn't limited to boxing; the same goes on for other sports events and for music concerts. This is nothing more or less than a legalised extortion racket, and it MUST be stopped!
I've raised a petition to Parliament, to make the resale of event tickets for more than face value illegal. I urge all UK readers to sign it, and forward the link to your friends.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/622416
H8Usernames
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Ehhh.

I didn't organize Eubank vs Benn. Why should I have any say in how tickets to the event are sold?

If the organizers have a problem with this then they will sort it out, if not then they will allow this to continue.

Ticket touting can also go wrong and touters can get stuck with unwanted tickets. This is called business which is the basis of western society and the global economy btw.

This asking governments to make this and that illegal or regulated, sounds like people want parliamentarians in their bathrooms to wipe their asses.
vidal
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H8Usernames wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 07:19 This is called business which is the basis of western society and the global economy btw.

This asking governments to make this and that illegal or regulated, sounds like people want parliamentarians in their bathrooms to wipe their asses.
You remember the last 14 years, right? :doh:
Thomastearns
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NeilHaggath wrote: 25 Aug 2022, 18:40 When the tickets went on sale for Eubank Jr v Benn, 20000 tickets sold out in ten minutes. This obviously isn't possible, unless they were all being grabbed en masse by automated bots.
Another ten minutes later, thousands of them appeared for resale on StubHub, at three to four times face value. It couldn't have been more blatant!
Of course, this isn't limited to boxing; the same goes on for other sports events and for music concerts. This is nothing more or less than a legalised extortion racket, and it MUST be stopped!
I've raised a petition to Parliament, to make the resale of event tickets for more than face value illegal. I urge all UK readers to sign it, and forward the link to your friends.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/622416

It's clearly wrong, and highly unfair to true boxing fans, but the sellers never seem to care.

Even worse there doesn't seem to be any easy way of stopping it.

I remember a friend of mine trying in vain to buy onlinetickets to see Led Zeppelin at the O2 back in 2007. He said they all went in a matter of seconds leaving him with no chance.

I guess it's all down to market forces in the end, plus the odd bit of sniping software.

If the Stubhub touts didn't think they could sell them on, they wouldn't buy them.

This in turn, suggests that, according to supply and demand, the tickets are underpriced in the first place.

Therefore it's quite clear that Benn v Eubank is obviously a very eagerly awaited fight.
NeilHaggath
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H8Usernames wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 07:19 Ehhh.

I didn't organize Eubank vs Benn. Why should I have any say in how tickets to the event are sold?

If the organizers have a problem with this then they will sort it out, if not then they will allow this to continue.

Ticket touting can also go wrong and touters can get stuck with unwanted tickets. This is called business which is the basis of western society and the global economy btw.

This asking governments to make this and that illegal or regulated, sounds like people want parliamentarians in their bathrooms to wipe their asses.
So you don't care that hundreds of thousands of people are being ripped off? That's precisely why the criminals are able to get away with it.
Lenny Cravats
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NeilHaggath wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 08:37
H8Usernames wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 07:19 Ehhh.

I didn't organize Eubank vs Benn. Why should I have any say in how tickets to the event are sold?

If the organizers have a problem with this then they will sort it out, if not then they will allow this to continue.

Ticket touting can also go wrong and touters can get stuck with unwanted tickets. This is called business which is the basis of western society and the global economy btw.

This asking governments to make this and that illegal or regulated, sounds like people want parliamentarians in their bathrooms to wipe their asses.
So you don't care that hundreds of thousands of people are being ripped off? That's precisely why the criminals are able to get away with it.
The guy is not mentally stable. He hates any idea of government intervention in anything. He's pretty much Pol Pot.




Anyway, this needs to be tackled. It's bad. I'm a huge music fan, gigs sell out so quickly you can't get tickets.
It's immoral.
H8Usernames
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NeilHaggath wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 08:37
H8Usernames wrote: 26 Aug 2022, 07:19 Ehhh.

I didn't organize Eubank vs Benn. Why should I have any say in how tickets to the event are sold?

If the organizers have a problem with this then they will sort it out, if not then they will allow this to continue.

Ticket touting can also go wrong and touters can get stuck with unwanted tickets. This is called business which is the basis of western society and the global economy btw.

This asking governments to make this and that illegal or regulated, sounds like people want parliamentarians in their bathrooms to wipe their asses.
So you don't care that hundreds of thousands of people are being ripped off? That's precisely why the criminals are able to get away with it.
I think that this is a matter of just understanding life.

There are people who organize these events. These are the people who risk their assets to stage these things. They are easily able to stop the ticket touting practice. They decide not to because they obviously believe that this helps their business.

How can I someone who has not invested anything into these events, not money, not time, not effort. How can I expect to tell these people how to run their affairs? Or worse yet demand that parliamentarians regulate their business model so that it will be more convenient for me? Is the whole world supposed to cater to me? Am I some sort of a prince or something?

There have been cases of ticket touting gone wrong and touters being stuck with tickets that nobody wants to buy. When this happens it obviously has a positive effect on the event since tickets get sold that would otherwise have sat on the shelf.

Ticket touters are not criminals, what they do is both legal and ethical.

Now another thing is that organizers could obviously try to sweeten their own deal in many ways instead of allowing the touters to profit but then again that could be risky, some things that we do to attempt to increase our profits ends up backfiring on us. Example: Sell the tickets with a higher initial price. Effect: Less people buy them initially because of the high price and the word gets out that people simply don't want to go to this event. After that things get ugly with the organizers putting their ticket prices way down just to break even.

Then there would be the one ticket one identification scheme. You buy 5 tickets one for yourself and your woman and three for your kids. Your woman falls ill, 1 of your kids never wanted to go in the first place and another decides to stay with her sick mom. You can't invite any of your buddies instead cause they don't have identification to match the tickets. Result: 2 out of the 5 tickets that you bought get used.

Be careful what you wish for son. Before you know it you'll get government agents attempting to tell you how to live your life and manage your affairs. When that happens remember how you were hoping for the gov to step in and tell others how to conduct their private affairs just so that you would benefit.
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Sellers could fix this easily. Put a bot check on the selling website.
Limit the amount of tickets that can be purchased by a single buyer.
And beyond that people can refuse to buy tickets above face value.
If there is no market, they'll stop.
Thomastearns
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snake33 wrote: 27 Aug 2022, 19:15 Sellers could fix this easily. Put a bot check on the selling website.
Limit the amount of tickets that can be purchased by a single buyer.
And beyond that people can refuse to buy tickets above face value.
If there is no market, they'll stop.

Sellers could easily put some way of limiting ticket number sales per individual but seeing as they're in the business of maximising profits they're hardly likely to anytime soon.

To maximise profits the tickets need to be priced optimally.

Too low and they sell out too fast, and too high they don't all sell.

This is not a nice way to look at things if you're a fan but you have to realise that business is always a cut throat business.

Even when it's conducted behind a seemingly friendly smile you can bet that everyone down from Conor Ben to Chris Eubank wants the maximum money from this fight.

You simply cannot get to the top with only good intentions. It's hardly a fluke that some of the richest companies on earth pay the lowest taxes.

Pfizer have recently made hundreds of billions of dollars profit through government backed enforcement of experimental injections upon billions of people.

Yet they resolutely continue to battle off their leading competitors.

No 1 v no 2.

Unfortunately for many of the consumers in this instance, they weren't given much of a choice whether or not they wanted this particular product.

A seller's dream scenario.


Moderna SUES Pfizer and BioNTech

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mo ... r-AA1185Rr
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