Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 25 Sep 2022, 05:32

Joyce - Decision
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44%
Joyce - T/KO
12
19%
DRAW
3
5%
Parker - T/KO
4
6%
Parker - Decision
16
25%
 
Total votes: 63

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Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Joe Joyce and Joseph Parker, the WBO’s top-rated heavyweight contenders, will collide Saturday, Sept. 24, from the AO Arena in Manchester, England.

The unbeaten Joyce (14-0, 13 KOs) – a 2016 Olympic silver medallist — holds the WBO International and WBC Silver heavyweight titles and is a former British, Commonwealth and European champion.

Parker (30-2, 21 KOs) previously held the WBO world title, winning the vacant belt against Andy Ruiz Jr. in 2016 and making successful defenses against Razvan Cojanu and Hughie Fury before losing on points in a unification fight against Anthony Joshua.

Joyce-Parker headlines a loaded UK fight night that will stream live and exclusively in the U.S. on ESPN+ at 2 p.m. ET/11 a.m. PT. Joyce vs Parker is promoted by allegedly for Queensberry Promotions in association with BOXXER.

The ESPN+ stream also features the return of seven-weight world champion Amanda Serrano (42-2-1, 30 KOs), who will attempt to unify her WBO and WBC featherweight world titles against unbeaten IBF champion Sarah Mahfoud (11-0, 3 KOs). The fight will be promoted by allegedly for Queensberry Promotions in association with Most Valuable Promotions.

Serrano returns to the featherweight ranks after her valiant stand against undisputed lightweight champion Katie Taylor in April, which she lost by disputed split decision. Serrano has won world titles in every weight class from 115 to 140 pounds and is among the most decorated fighters in women’s boxing history.

'Nowhere to Run', Joyce vs. Parker, will be broadcast live in the UK on BT Sport Box Office.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Joyce vs Parker fight card

Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker - Joyce’s WBC Silver and WBO International titles, Parker’s WBO Intercontinental title

Amanda Serrano vs. Sarah Mahfoud – Serrano’s WBO and WBC titles, Mahfoud’s IBF title
Ekow Essuman vs. Samuel Antwi - 12 rounds, welterweight

Michael Magnesi vs. Anthony Cacace -Magnesi’s IBO title

Nathan Heaney vs. Jack Flatley – Heaney’s IBO international title

Raven Chapman vs. Jorgelina Guanini - vacant WBC International title

James Heneghan vs. Rod Douglas Jnr, 6 rounds, middleweight

Callum Thompson vs. Delmar Thomas, 4 rounds, lightweight

Amaar Akbar vs. Karlo Wallace, 4 rounds, super lightweight

Mark Heffron vs. TBA, 8 rounds, super middleweight
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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I'm interested in what the speed disparity is going to be between these guys.
It was noticeable between Parker and Whyte, probably more so with Joyce.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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This is a terrible fight as I'd rather not see either of these great fighters lose.

If one must lose, I suspect it will be Joseph Parker.

He just hasn't looked that good since the Joshua fight.

Joe Joyce just seems that much more focused.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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parkers way faster but he's not very accurate
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Aug 2022, 16:41 parkers way faster but he's not very accurate
That's why it's not a simple case of speed. It's speed and inaccurate Vs slow and accurate. That makes it more difficult to predict. Still think Joyce's accuracy (and home judges) will be enough to get a decision.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Parker will move and miss. Joyce is effective i hope he wins parker is boring
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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It’s a good fight, though it will likely not be that fun to watch. I think Joyce takes it, though I’d like to see Parker spring the upset.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Some new information I’ve only just discovered about this fight…

Joseph Parker is locked into an immediate rematch clause if he beats Joe Joyce.

But if Joe Joyce wins, he’s able to fight anyone he damn well wants.

I expected Joyce to be the slight A-side, but I’m surprised Parker agreed to a one-sided immediate rematch clause.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Enlightened-One wrote: 30 Aug 2022, 06:00 Some new information I’ve only just discovered about this fight…

Joseph Parker is locked into an immediate rematch clause if he beats Joe Joyce.

But if Joe Joyce wins, he’s able to fight anyone he damn well wants.

I expected Joyce to be the slight A-side, but I’m surprised Parker agreed to a one-sided immediate rematch clause.
Just goes to show doesn't it..

What is we get a fairly boring one-sided decision win for Parker?

How do they sell a rematch?
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Joyce was being out-boxed by Takam.

He was probably 5-0 down on the cards on many people's scorecards.

Got quite the British stoppage in that fight.

The thing with Joyce is, he overwhelms his opponents.

Parker isn't Takam though..

He can move much better, he can perform below 250 pounds and above.

Had the fight taken place maybe 3-4 before, I reckon Takam would have beaten Joyce.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Aug 2022, 16:41 parkers way faster but he's not very accurate
Yes Parker is faster, but he has a t-Rex like reach, at least he does these days. Joyce is a big tough man with the height and reach advantage. Yes he's on the slower side and he's old but he's chin is good, and is his late round stamina is good.

It is in interesting match up. If guts or making the fight have anything to do with it, Joyce wins. Parker is remarkably shy for contact.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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This is now for the Interim WBO Belt.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Aug 2022, 03:50 This is now for the Interim WBO Belt.
I had a feeling this would get upgraded. Although i didnt know how far, interim or full WBO. Frank and WBO are the best of pals.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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I'm looking forward to this one.

Parker is 10x quicker than Joyce, but to be fair, so is my grandmother and she's been dead 18 years!

Joyce is like a brick wall with a Sonny Liston like jab, who never stops punching and appears to have great stamina, so Parker will definitely has work cut out.

I'm struggling to pick a winner though.

Ordinarily I would pick Parker due to his speed, but I think he has regressed a little bit, plus I made a pact with myself to stop picking against Joyce in these 48/52 fights because he has a tendency to shock you.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Parker: Joyce's Demand For Rematch Clause "Shows a Little Weakness"

"I know deep down I back myself 100 percent to beat anyone," Parker, told @idboxingnews. "I want to beat Joyce first, twice, I have to beat him in September, have a rematch and beat him again then I'm free to fight anybody.

"He's not even champion so he shouldn't have a rematch clause, but it's one of those things where they weren't going to make the fight happen unless it was in place. I don't need a rematch clause, for the Joshua fight I didn't need a rematch clause because I backed myself and I back myself now. I think it shows a little weakness.

"Because the first time we negotiated with them they didn't care about a rematch clause. I didn't look the best in the first Chisora fight, then after the second one they wanted a rematch clause, it shows weakness and shows there are little doubts that they think they might lose."
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 05:15 Parker: Joyce's Demand For Rematch Clause "Shows a Little Weakness"

"I know deep down I back myself 100 percent to beat anyone," Parker, told @idboxingnews. "I want to beat Joyce first, twice, I have to beat him in September, have a rematch and beat him again then I'm free to fight anybody.

"He's not even champion so he shouldn't have a rematch clause, but it's one of those things where they weren't going to make the fight happen unless it was in place. I don't need a rematch clause, for the Joshua fight I didn't need a rematch clause because I backed myself and I back myself now. I think it shows a little weakness.

"Because the first time we negotiated with them they didn't care about a rematch clause. I didn't look the best in the first Chisora fight, then after the second one they wanted a rematch clause, it shows weakness and shows there are little doubts that they think they might lose."
Rematch clauses should be barred for non-title fights (or for vacant 'interim' titles) and mandatory defences imo.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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cpx2 wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 08:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 05:15 Parker: Joyce's Demand For Rematch Clause "Shows a Little Weakness"

"I know deep down I back myself 100 percent to beat anyone," Parker, told @idboxingnews. "I want to beat Joyce first, twice, I have to beat him in September, have a rematch and beat him again then I'm free to fight anybody.

"He's not even champion so he shouldn't have a rematch clause, but it's one of those things where they weren't going to make the fight happen unless it was in place. I don't need a rematch clause, for the Joshua fight I didn't need a rematch clause because I backed myself and I back myself now. I think it shows a little weakness.

"Because the first time we negotiated with them they didn't care about a rematch clause. I didn't look the best in the first Chisora fight, then after the second one they wanted a rematch clause, it shows weakness and shows there are little doubts that they think they might lose."
Rematch clauses should be barred for non-title fights (or for vacant 'interim' titles) and mandatory defences imo.
100% agree.
And yes, it does show weakness.
Also- isn't this a final eliminator?

Seems crazy given Joe Joyce's age, being tied up with a rematch clause.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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KiwiRider wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 15:43
cpx2 wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 08:19
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 05:15 Parker: Joyce's Demand For Rematch Clause "Shows a Little Weakness"

"I know deep down I back myself 100 percent to beat anyone," Parker, told @idboxingnews. "I want to beat Joyce first, twice, I have to beat him in September, have a rematch and beat him again then I'm free to fight anybody.

"He's not even champion so he shouldn't have a rematch clause, but it's one of those things where they weren't going to make the fight happen unless it was in place. I don't need a rematch clause, for the Joshua fight I didn't need a rematch clause because I backed myself and I back myself now. I think it shows a little weakness.

"Because the first time we negotiated with them they didn't care about a rematch clause. I didn't look the best in the first Chisora fight, then after the second one they wanted a rematch clause, it shows weakness and shows there are little doubts that they think they might lose."
Rematch clauses should be barred for non-title fights (or for vacant 'interim' titles) and mandatory defences imo.
100% agree.
And yes, it does show weakness.
Also- isn't this a final eliminator?

Seems crazy given Joe Joyce's age, being tied up with a rematch clause.
It's for the interim world title. It makes sense, the WBO mandatory is last, as Usyk was AJ's WBO. So I suppose a rematch clause is better business sense than taking another fight in the meantime.
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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Those rematch clauses are more and more annoying. Something should be made with these side-A privileges, they kill the sport.

Anyway, this time there won't be a need for the rematch. I don't expect this to be highly competetive. Parker will be timid again, he'll be massively outworked.
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Intrigued to see what Rod Douglas Jr will be like
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Re: Joe Joyce vs. Joseph Parker | ESPN - September 24, 2022

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DrDuke wrote: 02 Sep 2022, 22:51 Those rematch clauses are more and more annoying. Something should be made with these side-A privileges, they kill the sport.

Anyway, this time there won't be a need for the rematch. I don't expect this to be highly competetive. Parker will be timid again, he'll be massively outworked.

3 possible reasons for a rematch.

a) The business wheels behind boxing can't bear to see their investments lose their value.

So it's only natural that they want to protect them.

b) In the case of a disputed decision and the fighters agree.

c) or if the fans want to see it.

Fury v Wilder 2 was a good example of all 3.
Fury v Wilder 3 was an example of a and c - even if it derailed a possible Joshua v Fury showdown.

As we know with fork tongued Fury it's only 'possible', nothing, apart from his usual money chasing is definite).

GGG v Canelo 3 is also an example of all 3 although it's not clear just how much Canelo wants it.

However, ultimately it's still the fans that have the ultimate say even if some big fights get lost as a result.


As promoters love to say, "if the numbers ($£€¥) make sense..."

Anyway, I don't think Joyce will need a rematch either.

Joseph Parker is done and dusted.
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Thomastearns wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 09:02
Joseph Parker is done and dusted.
He is one of the youngest heavyweights in the top #20!
Youngest in the top #10.

But yeah, he's done :lol:
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KiwiRider wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 15:42
Thomastearns wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 09:02
Joseph Parker is done and dusted.
He is one of the youngest heavyweights in the top #20!
Youngest in the top #10.

But yeah, he's done :lol:
I have Parker winning this.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 15:54
KiwiRider wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 15:42
Thomastearns wrote: 03 Sep 2022, 09:02
Joseph Parker is done and dusted.
He is one of the youngest heavyweights in the top #20!
Youngest in the top #10.

But yeah, he's done :lol:
I have Parker winning this.
Same. On points. The speed disparity is going to be really noticeable.
Dunno if he will get a fair suck if the savaloy on the cards though.
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