Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[cormack]

I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

never

[cormack]

bad idea for joshua to even consider this after the loss IMHO .
he should stick to the plan of building up again with less daunting opposition and get back to winning .
Let Fury fight Usyk and see how he gets on with him .

[Nightmare Roy]

I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

never

100% Seems like they have called his bluff

[DrDuke]

bad idea for joshua to even consider this after the loss IMHO .
he should stick to the plan of building up again with less daunting opposition and get back to winning .
Let Fury fight Usyk and see how he gets on with him .

There's no point in beating bums in order to secure a shot, which you won't win anyway, when you are already suggested the shot. Joshua is infront of the biggest payday possible, his team should take it.

[Nightmare Roy]

It's got to be in the UK really to enable it to be free entry and reward the fans.

I wonder which terrestrial channel will be showing it?

Presumably, he will box Uysk that same evening as Fury said he can beat them both on the same night.

Yup can't have KSI running around as the GoAT

[garethhop]

Would DAZN let AJ go over to BT PPV for potentially 2 fights? Can't see it. There's going to be some cracking rows going on over the next few days.....

[Counter-puncher]

I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

never

100% Seems like they have called his bluff

how so?

[JamesPhilips]

Fury will of course use this as an opportunity to try and get the lion's share of the purse.

It's obviously a bit fight if it happens, even now - but I find it hard to believe they're going to negotiate this in time for December.

Doesn't happen.

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

[tonyevs]

Fury will of course use this as an opportunity to try and get the lion's share of the purse.

It's obviously a bit fight if it happens, even now - but I find it hard to believe they're going to negotiate this in time for December.

Doesn't happen.

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

[JamesPhilips]

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

Lol true things are much more complicated than simple purse breakdown. I’m so bored of hearing social media talk and unfulfilled fights. It’s so tiring. I want to hear about signed fights only.

[Boxerbeetle]

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

Lol true things are much more complicated than simple purse breakdown. I’m so bored of hearing social media talk and unfulfilled fights. It’s so tiring. I want to hear about signed fights only.

You might wanna stay away from this forum then, social media and unfulfilled fights are all we fvcking talk about

[Ruthless-RKO]

[JamesPhilips]

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

Lol true things are much more complicated than simple purse breakdown. I’m so bored of hearing social media talk and unfulfilled fights. It’s so tiring. I want to hear about signed fights only.

You might wanna stay away from this forum then, social media and unfulfilled fights are all we fvcking talk about

Lol The modern fight game seems more about rumours, call outs, social media than actual fights unfortunately

[Noxy]

Indeed, it’s really getting boring.

[Nightmare Roy]

never

100% Seems like they have called his bluff

how so?

Do you think he was serious? Hope so, what a Christmas it would be, world cup and AJ Fury.

[thenamesnevers]

Fury's antics are becoming quite tiresome now. If we do get to see Fury vs AJ and Wilder vs Usyk though, I'll be very happy.

[Blueprint]

Is this actually happening?

[Lenny Cravats]

I'd prefer to see Fury - Joshua than Fury - Usyk.

[coneye]

See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

[tonyevs]

*waits for Mick to reply ..

[big lennox]

See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

This is exactly as I see it. Klitschko struggled in the fight before Fury and was not the Klitschko that Haye fought.

Wilder does have KO power but can't actually box very well and, as you said, boxed a lot of puddings for many years.

I dont get the hate for Joshua. Ruiz is a handful for everyone. I remember Evander Holyfield talking about sparring him and was really impressed. And there is zero shame in losing to Uysk. To date, Fury has managed to not box any of those three, who are world class fighters.

I can see Joshua stopping Fury. He needs to hit Fury to the body and slow him down. I doubt Fury will ever box Uysk. He clearly wants no part of him. Why else take on Whyte instead of Uysk and why else take on Joshua who has just lost, and not the winner who has three belts. Doesn't fancy it.

I think Joshua should train with anyone from this list of coaches:

Dominic Ingle
Adam Booth
Shane McGuigan
Dave Coldwell
Steffy Bull
Tony Simms

[Alba]

Joshua is cashing in, he knows after Fury fights Usyk, that this fight while still desirable, has a bit of a timespan on it and is probably still more lucrative at the moment than further down the line

[Alba]

See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

This is exactly as I see it. Klitschko struggled in the fight before Fury and was not the Klitschko that Haye fought.

Wilder does have KO power but can't actually box very well and, as you said, boxed a lot of puddings for many years.

I dont get the hate for Joshua. Ruiz is a handful for everyone. I remember Evander Holyfield talking about sparring him and was really impressed. And there is zero shame in losing to Uysk. To date, Fury has managed to not box any of those three, who are world class fighters.

I can see Joshua stopping Fury. He needs to hit Fury to the body and slow him down. I doubt Fury will ever box Uysk. He clearly wants no part of him. Why else take on Whyte instead of Uysk and why else take on Joshua who has just lost, and not the winner who has three belts. Doesn't fancy it.

I think Joshua should train with anyone from this list of coaches:

Dominic Ingle
Adam Booth
Shane McGuigan
Dave Coldwell
Steffy Bull
Tony Simms

Ha ha the only suitable trainers for him are British ones? Love that mentality

[big lennox]

See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

This is exactly as I see it. Klitschko struggled in the fight before Fury and was not the Klitschko that Haye fought.

Wilder does have KO power but can't actually box very well and, as you said, boxed a lot of puddings for many years.

I dont get the hate for Joshua. Ruiz is a handful for everyone. I remember Evander Holyfield talking about sparring him and was really impressed. And there is zero shame in losing to Uysk. To date, Fury has managed to not box any of those three, who are world class fighters.

I can see Joshua stopping Fury. He needs to hit Fury to the body and slow him down. I doubt Fury will ever box Uysk. He clearly wants no part of him. Why else take on Whyte instead of Uysk and why else take on Joshua who has just lost, and not the winner who has three belts. Doesn't fancy it.

I think Joshua should train with anyone from this list of coaches:

Dominic Ingle
Adam Booth
Shane McGuigan
Dave Coldwell
Steffy Bull
Tony Simms

Ha ha the only suitable trainers for him are British ones? Love that mentality

Not at all. Joshua doesn't want to base himself away from Britain and everyone on that list is superb and would give him the best chance possible of success.

Uysk's trainer would be another good one.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Chopping and changing trainers after every fight does you no good. After one camp with Garcia he gave Usyk a harder time than he did in their first fight - more time together will bring more improvements.

He should get rid of Fernandez, make a full break from all his hangers on and base himself in Oxnard with Garcia.