Deontay Wilder vs. Andy Ruiz Jr. | PPV - Who wins?

[Tony1244]

Haha!

What a joke!!!

I despise the alphabets, but for a box off I've seen much worse.

[KiwiRider]

Haha!

What a joke!!!

I despise the alphabets, but for a box off I've seen much worse.

True that.
How about Wilder's entire title reign?
Whyte defended that pathetic silver belt numerous times over years and still got passed over to fight Wilder.

[Bandog]

wilder didn't seriously hurt fury? da f@k you smoking my man

Pass the pipe, must be some good stuff.

[Thomastearns]

wilder didn't seriously hurt fury? da f@k you smoking my man

Pass the pipe, must be some good stuff.

It's all about perspective.

There's hurt, and then there's seriously life changing hurt.

Look at what Fury did to Wilder.

Deontay Wilder might never be the same fighter again after what Fury did to him in both 2 and 3.


As for Sulaiman and the WBC, there's not a lot more to be said.

They should have stripped Fury after his retirement statements and unwillingness to face his mandatory but now the possible AJ v Fury showdown will suit them fine.

Fury's now even grovelling to take a 40/60 share against AJ rather than face Usyk for the unification.

Money in the bank.

[Enlightened-One]

Haha!

What a joke!!!

What a pile of śhît! Wilder can’t keep receiving favouritism from the WBC.

[Bandog]

Not sure what people are upset over. Wilder, ex champ, highly ranked, being made to do both a semi and final eliminator for a chance at a belt.

Clear favoritism would be automatically making him a mandatory, with an immediate shot.

[Enlightened-One]

Boxing fans are very reactionary.

People are saying on social media that “Andy Ruiz is done. He’s going to get destroyed by Wilder.”

I think the Deontay Wilder fight will be completely different. It won’t be like Andy’s bout against Luis Ortiz.

I think that Ruiz was struggling to get to grips with a southpaw.

Due to his right hand having to travel much further against the southpaw than would be the case with an orthodox fighter.

Also, even though Luis Ortiz has lost the Deontay Wilder twice, Ortiz is the better fighter technically than Wilder.

The Cuban has better balance; he’s better coordinated; he doesn’t lunge in as much with his shots; and he doesn’t make as many mistakes.

Therefore, Andy Ruiz had few opportunities to land his shots and counters against Ortiz.

And because of Ortiz’s southpaw stance, Ruiz couldn’t use his natural fighting style.

If Andy Ruiz was using his normal pressure fighting style, coming forward with squared-up shoulders and a high guard, he would have been hit with a lot more left-hands down the pipe.

So I think it was a strategic decision by Andy’s team to fight Ortiz the way he did, which is basically the typical way that most orthodox fighters fight against southpaws, a battle of the backhands.

I feel Ortiz’s style matchup was bad for Andy Ruiz. I think that Deontay Wilder is a better-style matchup for him.

I’m not saying that Ruiz beats Wilder. But I think he’ll apply a lot more pressure against Wilder than we saw against Ortiz.

I think he’ll have many more opportunities to counter against Wilder than he did against Ortiz, because the Cuban is technically better.

And it’s harder to draw mistakes out of Ortiz because he has a very good technical background.

Whereas with Wilder, you can easily draw mistakes due to the American telegraphing his punches more than Luis Ortiz.

So Ruiz can see when Wilder is about to throw something, because he cocks back his right hand like he’s about to throw a javelin or a shotput.

And a guy like Ruiz Jr will anticipate those shots being thrown and be able to block and counter or duck underneath and counter.

Therefore, I think Andy Ruiz will be very competitive against Wilder.

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

[Bandog]

Boxing fans are very reactionary.

People are saying on social media that “Andy Ruiz is done. He’s going to get destroyed by Wilder.”

I think the Deontay Wilder fight will be completely different. It won’t be like Andy’s bout against Luis Ortiz.

I think that Ruiz was struggling to get to grips with a southpaw.

Due to his right hand having to travel much further against the southpaw than would be the case with an orthodox fighter.

Also, even though Luis Ortiz has lost the Deontay Wilder twice, Ortiz is the better fighter technically than Wilder.

The Cuban has better balance; he’s better coordinated; he doesn’t lunge in as much with his shots; and he doesn’t make as many mistakes.

Therefore, Andy Ruiz had few opportunities to land his shots and counters against Ortiz.

And because of Ortiz’s southpaw stance, Ruiz couldn’t use his natural fighting style.

If Andy Ruiz was using his normal pressure fighting style, coming forward with squared-up shoulders and a high guard, he would have been hit with a lot more left-hands down the pipe.

So I think it was a strategic decision by Andy’s team to fight Ortiz the way he did, which is basically the typical way that most orthodox fighters fight against southpaws, a battle of the backhands.

I feel Ortiz’s style matchup was bad for Andy Ruiz. I think that Deontay Wilder is a better-style matchup for him.

I’m not saying that Ruiz beats Wilder. But I think he’ll apply a lot more pressure against Wilder than we saw against Ortiz.

I think he’ll have many more opportunities to counter against Wilder than he did against Ortiz, because the Cuban is technically better.

And it’s harder to draw mistakes out of Ortiz because he has a very good technical background.

Whereas with Wilder, you can easily draw mistakes due to the American telegraphing his punches more than Luis Ortiz.

So Ruiz can see when Wilder is about to throw something, because he cocks back his right hand like he’s about to throw a javelin or a shotput.

And a guy like Ruiz Jr will anticipate those shots being thrown and be able to block and counter or duck underneath and counter.

Therefore, I think Andy Ruiz will be very competitive against Wilder.

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

[Bandog]

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EO hitting the bag...

[Enlightened-One]

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

You claimed Luis Ortiz didn’t duck Anthony Joshua.

You claimed Andy Ruiz Jr. was ducking Luis Ortiz.

You claimed Luis Ortiz would beat Andy Ruiz Jr.

Shall I carry on?

[margaret thatcher]

is banny still living in ortiz's butthole?

[Bandog]

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

You claimed Luis Ortiz didn’t duck Anthony Joshua.

You claimed Andy Ruiz Jr. was ducking Luis Ortiz.

You claimed Luis Ortiz would beat Andy Ruiz Jr.

Shall I carry on?

Ortiz was guaranteed a rematch with Wilder, so declined the short notice Joshua fight.

Ruiz tried to get out of the Ortiz fight, signing another fight, but was forced to take it. fornicating idiot.

Yes, I predicted Ortiz would win, so what. I was very close to being right, which is better than straddling the fence, choosing multiple options regarding outcomes, like narcissists do, with fear of bring wrong, like you have done.
Quit while you are behInd doofus.

[margaret thatcher]

lol, yet another guy banny accuses of ducking, despite apparently hating when people accuse fighters of ducking

ya, im sure ruiz was shaking in his boots to face the guy chuck martin dropped with a jab. he was also so scared that he fought him and bounced him off the canvas repeatedly


luis ortiz before: 'aj is the fight for me next! i'll take it any time, any place, any money! i want all those belts!'
luis ortiz after a big offer: 'well, um, uh, well, uh'

whether he had the wilder fight or not, we know he was obviously talking total bullsh!t before since he said one thing then did the exact opposite. maybe aj would still offer him a fight and whoop his ass, but maybe aj doesnt wwant an unreliable guy who talks big then scuttles away when offered

[SportsRatings]

i think duhaupas was the only guy he didnt drop, though havent seen all of his earliest fights. stiverne technically wasnt dropped or stopped the first time though obviously got crushed in the rematch.

There was a rematch? Guess I better check the record and adjust my meds.

So there was...glad we have this "boxrec" thing

[KiwiRider]

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

You claimed Luis Ortiz didn’t duck Anthony Joshua.

You claimed Andy Ruiz Jr. was ducking Luis Ortiz.

You claimed Luis Ortiz would beat Andy Ruiz Jr.

Shall I carry on?

Ortiz was guaranteed a rematch with Wilder, so declined the short notice Joshua fight.

Ruiz tried to get out of the Ortiz fight, signing another fight, but was forced to take it. fornicating idiot.

Yes, I predicted Ortiz would win, so what. I was very close to being right, which is better than straddling the fence, choosing multiple options regarding outcomes, like narcissists do, with fear of bring wrong, like you have done.
Quit while you are behInd doofus.

It was real close, and if the second knock down was ruled what it actually was- a push- it would have been a draw on most peoples card.
Boxong Scene had Ortiz winning it and I had it the same after discounting the push down.

[Verdi]

Wilder via ko

[Bard of Boxrec]

Hope this gets made. Fkin intriguing fight! Could be an absolute barnburner if Ruiz has a chin left.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Andy Ruiz Jr Already Calling Out Deontay Wilder For WBC Eliminator

Andy Ruiz Jr. is jumping the gun by calling out Deontay Wilder in a WBC heavyweight title eliminator despite him needing to beat the dangerous Robert Helenius on October 15th.

[funso banjo baby]

Certainly Wilder needs to overcome the big lug helenius first

But Ruiz needs a big fight now

He may get kod by wilder early but it'll be interesting , ruiz has the fastest hands in the division, if he gets inside.......who knows?

[gilgamesh]

Ruiz may well be a problem for Wilder as his chin seems like it'd be pretty damn solid. I'm sure he can be KO'd, but it may take some more to put him away than it does others. Add that with his reasonably good Boxing skill, and he may be a big problem.

[gregregegg]

Haha!

What a joke!!!

So when picking his semi finalists to see who is fury’s mandatory they decided on…

-wilder, 36, been stopped twice in a row by fury..

-helinious, 38, beat a pudding twice….wow

-Ruiz, decent age, but coming off two shocking performances against AJ and Areola. (Hindsight tells us he made it 3 poor showings in a row adding a lacklustre night out Vs Ortiz.)

-ortiz, 43(+), been knocked twice recently while fighting for the wbc belt and was coming off looking frail as a baby deer vs Charles Martin,.

Take into account that for all these older folk, with the semifinal system there fight with fury will probably be over a year away….

What vision for the future WBC posses, and how amazing how well it lines up with PBCs plans…

[Ruthless-RKO]

Wilder is open to fighting either Usyk, if the fight is offered, or a fight against Ruiz.

[gregregegg]

Wilder is in shape, took zero punishment and is only getting older… should look to fight December, either Ruiz, usyk, or AJ…

why not send a couple of offers, say your open to offers and see what happens…

[CMCanavessi]

Agree, wilder should fight in December at least just to keep being active or to regain form/confidence.

December should be a month with A LOT of fights.

[Bandog]

Wilderr vs AJ in Dec would be good. Even Joyce. He KO's both I think.