Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[tonyevs]

Joshua has had a perfect prep to fight Fury in November or December ... he thought he won the fight, and if he had got the decision, he would be looking to capitalise on the showing and beating Fury next.

Either way - its the acid test for who wants it and who doesn`t.

No way can Joshua say he can`t be ready by even early November - he is as fit as he can be, and has no injuries to be nursing.
Fury can have his 60/40 and rematch thats fair .. but no other terms if he is serious.

Lets see who blinks first .. my money is on Fury finding the excuse.

[Boxerbeetle]

Fury seems to be already bottling it - offering 3 dates, then suddenly goes down to 1 date as a ‘take it or leave it’

[jamesmcdonnell]

I wouldn't entirely count Joshua out if they fought. I make Fury a big favourite, but it's worth remembering that he was on his arse multiple times against Wilder, who is shocking skill wise.

Joshua can box a hell of a lot better than Wilder, and he still carries proper power.

My biggest concern for Joshua, is that he will struggle to pull the trigger against Fury, who loves a feint.

[The Gratest]

Fury seems to be already bottling it - offering 3 dates, then suddenly goes down to 1 date as a ‘take it or leave it’

Using Joshua and the usual bluster to promote a defence of the Lineal belt against Manuel Charr.

[Glass Joe]

[tonyevs]

I wouldn't entirely count Joshua out if they fought. I make Fury a big favourite, but it's worth remembering that he was on his arse multiple times against Wilder, who is shocking skill wise.

Joshua can box a hell of a lot better than Wilder, and he still carries proper power.

My biggest concern for Joshua, is that he will struggle to pull the trigger against Fury, who loves a feint.

I'd put Joshua, even with the 3 defeats and his limitations clearly visible, as Fury's biggest test if they fought

Fury would no doubt start heavy favourite but I'd risk a nice bet on Joshua winning.

Fury is not a big puncher - and Joshua is guaranteed to hit Fury more than Wilder did. Fury's biggest assets is that he has a lot more ring IQ and not bothered to stink the place out to get a win.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I wouldn't entirely count Joshua out if they fought. I make Fury a big favourite, but it's worth remembering that he was on his arse multiple times against Wilder, who is shocking skill wise.

Joshua can box a hell of a lot better than Wilder, and he still carries proper power.

My biggest concern for Joshua, is that he will struggle to pull the trigger against Fury, who loves a feint.

I'd put Joshua, even with the 3 defeats and his limitations clearly visible, as Fury's biggest test if they fought

Fury would no doubt start heavy favourite but I'd risk a nice bet on Joshua winning.

Fury is not a big puncher - and Joshua is guaranteed to hit Fury more than Wilder did. Fury's biggest assets is that he has a lot more ring IQ and not bothered to stink the place out to get a win.

I do think Fury has been rather flattered by his wins over Wilder.

[margaret thatcher]

wilder was hitting him, otter slashed him up and hurt him.......fury obviously should be the fave but aj can have success

[Nightmare Roy]

Fury now saying 3rd December, take it leave it. How tedious.

Don't think he was expecting AJ to say yup go on then 60/40 to you

[Steveh583]

they've called furys bluff. but the furys have no problem backing out of fights so wont care.

[Wee Tommy]

wilder was hitting him, otter slashed him up and hurt him.......fury obviously should be the fave but aj can have success

You called him Otter ages back. I never see his name without reading it as Otter

[margaret thatcher]

[Oiky]

It would never be the same as it would have been but I'd still really like to see It

Fury wins of course

[deadpan]

I wouldn't entirely count Joshua out if they fought. I make Fury a big favourite, but it's worth remembering that he was on his arse multiple times against Wilder, who is shocking skill wise.

Joshua can box a hell of a lot better than Wilder, and he still carries proper power.

My biggest concern for Joshua, is that he will struggle to pull the trigger against Fury, who loves a feint.

I'd put Joshua, even with the 3 defeats and his limitations clearly visible, as Fury's biggest test if they fought

Fury would no doubt start heavy favourite but I'd risk a nice bet on Joshua winning.

Fury is not a big puncher - and Joshua is guaranteed to hit Fury more than Wilder did. Fury's biggest assets is that he has a lot more ring IQ and not bothered to stink the place out to get a win.

I do think Fury has been rather flattered by his wins over Wilder.

Emphatically! A supposed master of the fistic art. Knocked down 4 times by one of the least skilled belt holders in history.

[KiwiRider]

Tough one part of me thinks this is a PR thing also part of me thinks Hearn knows AJ might turn into a David Price and might want to cash out before he loses to someone average and kill Fury money.

Nah.
AJ beats everyone except Uysk, and we will have the #2 question of Fury answered by year's end.
There isn't anyone right now that has more than a punchers chance against him except Fury.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I don’t the understand.

Fury beats AJ probably 9 times out of 10..

Just fight the man!

[CaptainSpacerod]

Joshua has had a perfect prep to fight Fury in November or December ... he thought he won the fight, and if he had got the decision, he would be looking to capitalise on the showing and beating Fury next.

Either way - its the acid test for who wants it and who doesn`t.

No way can Joshua say he can`t be ready by even early November - he is as fit as he can be, and has no injuries to be nursing.
Fury can have his 60/40 and rematch thats fair .. but no other terms if he is serious.

Lets see who blinks first .. my money is on Fury finding the excuse.

I disagree that he could reasonably be expected to fight in November. He’s 33, he had an arduous training camp and then a tough 12 round fight on Aug 20th. He needs time to rest and recuperate before going into another tough camp to prepare himself for a fight of this magnitude. The last time he had only 3 months or less between fights was in 2016 after stopping Martin in 2 rounds.

But yeah I agree that Fury blinks first on the basis that it was an insincere call out anyhow, I think it’s just another headline grabbing attention seeking ploy from Tyson

[Gnome]

[coneye]

Joshua has had a perfect prep to fight Fury in November or December ... he thought he won the fight, and if he had got the decision, he would be looking to capitalise on the showing and beating Fury next.

Either way - its the acid test for who wants it and who doesn`t.

No way can Joshua say he can`t be ready by even early November - he is as fit as he can be, and has no injuries to be nursing.
Fury can have his 60/40 and rematch thats fair .. but no other terms if he is serious.

Lets see who blinks first .. my money is on Fury finding the excuse.

I disagree that he could reasonably be expected to fight in November. He’s 33, he had an arduous training camp and then a tough 12 round fight on Aug 20th. He needs time to rest and recuperate before going into another tough camp to prepare himself for a fight of this magnitude. The last time he had only 3 months or less between fights was in 2016 after stopping Martin in 2 rounds.

But yeah I agree that Fury blinks first on the basis that it was an insincere call out anyhow, I think it’s just another headline grabbing attention seeking ploy from Tyson

You can't hit peak a couple of months after hitting peak it can be done what 3 maybee 4 times a year without leaving it in the gym ,, why do fights get cancelled last minuite a lot only to be reinstated 3-4 weeks down the track , easy knock the opponent if he's had time to train correctly and reach peak off his peak ,, bring him in well below peak ,, can't explain peaking , maybee someone on here can explain it better than me , , i don't know all the scientific bollocks that goes with it , but i do know its part of training , even ameteurs , you will concentrate on getting them peaking for major comp , it usually lasts around 2 weeks , easy way to tell if a fighters reaching peak with intense training ,, a snotty nose , his body is starting to get succeptable ,, Fury and his camp know all this and are playing games , believe he's now said nov or not at all , guys a fooking pillock ,, AJ should just tell him to go do one ,, then let him fight Wilder again thats what he's after

[tonyevs]

Joshua has had a perfect prep to fight Fury in November or December ... he thought he won the fight, and if he had got the decision, he would be looking to capitalise on the showing and beating Fury next.

Either way - its the acid test for who wants it and who doesn`t.

No way can Joshua say he can`t be ready by even early November - he is as fit as he can be, and has no injuries to be nursing.
Fury can have his 60/40 and rematch thats fair .. but no other terms if he is serious.

Lets see who blinks first .. my money is on Fury finding the excuse.

I disagree that he could reasonably be expected to fight in November. He’s 33, he had an arduous training camp and then a tough 12 round fight on Aug 20th. He needs time to rest and recuperate before going into another tough camp to prepare himself for a fight of this magnitude. The last time he had only 3 months or less between fights was in 2016 after stopping Martin in 2 rounds.

But yeah I agree that Fury blinks first on the basis that it was an insincere call out anyhow, I think it’s just another headline grabbing attention seeking ploy from Tyson

Joshua wouldn't need a full on training camp to peak. He can take a base month to drop demands on his body before another month of slow build again .. the guy is just turned 33; he has had a very easy run to where he is .. late starter to the game and the typical 2x fights a year for the last 5yrs so the guy should be relatively fresh. It's not like he gets out of shape before fights and needs lots work to drop weight etc first.

And yes I agree with you - it was most likely put out there as an attention seeking ploy by Fury .. which fWank is now desperately trying to get him out of and saving face.

[stujones]

Shows the state of the division that a guy who has lost 3 of his last 5 can still command fighting for the title with no tune up etc.

[HomicideHenry]

Shows the state of the division that a guy who has lost 3 of his last 5 can still command fighting for the title with no tune up etc.

Beyond Fury, Joshua, Usyk and Wilder... The truth of the matter is everyone else is really far behind those four guys. There is no question about that. Joshua in my view has shown himself to be the weak link in the chain among the top four, but I don't see that many people out there that could actually beat him. So there is a bit of truth to what you say.

That being said Joshua continues to be a major star in the heavyweight division strictly because of the British sporting public and nothing more. He could literally fight on for another 10-15 years and would still be a money maker kind of like Henry Cooper because for whatever reason the British sporting public has taken to him as some sort of sentimental favorite despite his flaws.

The fact that so many people are jumping at Fury-Joshua INSTEAD of being royally pissed that the prospect of an undisputed heavyweight title fight between Fury-Usyk is either being postponed or thrown to the side, can be laid strictly at the feet of the British sporting public who are dumb enough to derail the undisputed heavyweight title fight because they would rather see a damaged goods ex champion who only was champion due to political maneuvering to begin with instead of the only fight that actually matters.

Joshua will be blown to bits in this fight and everybody knows it, and Fury will use it as promotional fuel that he performed better against Joshua than Usyk did--- and may retire for real because he will use the logic that there was no point at all in ever fighting Usyk because if he could kayo Joshua where Usyk couldn't that it's a given that the Ukrainian could never beat him.

Let's hope to Jesus that does not happen. Let's hope to Jesus that either common sense prevails and the undisputed fight does happen, or that Fury simply uses Joshua as a tune-up fight for the undisputed clash with Usyk.

[maverick23]

So Fury has given AJ a deadline of today to sign the deal. That almost certainly won’t happen as these things take time. AJ will have contractual obligations with DAZN that will need sorting and he’ll need to sort out what he’s doing trainer wise.

I can see it not getting done and then Fury calling AJ a pussy etc for it not being signed.

[Ruthless-RKO]

So Fury has given AJ a deadline of today to sign the deal. That almost certainly won’t happen as these things take time. AJ will have contractual obligations with DAZN that will need sorting and he’ll need to sort out what he’s doing trainer wise.

I can see it not getting done and then Fury calling AJ a pussy etc for it not being signed.

Basically just looked into the future. exactly how it will play out.

[tony1234]

So Fury has given AJ a deadline of today to sign the deal. That almost certainly won’t happen as these things take time. AJ will have contractual obligations with DAZN that will need sorting and he’ll need to sort out what he’s doing trainer wise.

I can see it not getting done and then Fury calling AJ a pussy etc for it not being signed.

Basically just looked into the future. exactly how it will play out.

TikTok video calling Joshua a dosser incoming soon