John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Vlad
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John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Prime vs prime, who wins?
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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To me, this one is really difficult to call. I'll go with The Duke on points.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Either the Duke wins on a decision or stops him late with his big left hook.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Tommy would KTFO Ruiz like Tua did, maybe just a bit later.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Ruiz in his prime would stop morrison late.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Ruiz gets off the canvas early, and smothers, holds, shoulders and hits on the break to a close but clear decision. If only Morrison's actual career was as good as his hypothetical Boxrec career.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Agree that Morrison was overrated by many, but we are talking about John Ruiz here.
Who did Ruiz ever won a "clear" decision over ?
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Holy and Rahman.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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ruiz gets hurts and dropped early, beaten up a beat till mid fight. comes back, and by the end has morrison in trouble and reeling

but morrison holds on and takes it a thin decision, 114-113ish
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Seamus wrote: 06 Sep 2022, 21:52 Holy and Rahman.
Holyfield was shot by that point and it was still a close fight. Guess you count the Rahman fight but that seemed to have more to do with Rahman not showing up than anything.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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Ruiz was a ghastly watch and almost more boring (if possible) out of the ring.
The Quiet Man moniker was a polite way of his own team saying: wholly unmarketable fighter but he's got some belts.

But I can see him being a right pain in the arse for the explosive Morrison - still nagging away after six rounds, not doing much at all but not remotely hurt either and with some energy left in the tank - and beginning to make the fight tight.

I'll go for a properly fecked-off and knackered Morrison winning it via the cards.
Bigger, cleaner punches and nailing some rounds but dragged into some messy stuff and losing a couple as well.

Quite admire Ruiz (grudgingly) because he could mess-up anyone and grind out a result.
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Re: John Ruiz vs. Tommy Morrison

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He didn't mess up Tua . Or Roy Jones. his whole strategy was usually to punch and great. Make every round hard to score. Then he would have a 50-50 chance to win. Actually more since the judges were sometimes bought off by King.

If a guy had a lot of power (like Tua) or was a great boxer (like Jones), the punch and grab didn't work. Against most guys, it did.
If Morrison fought smart, he would have won.
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