If Eubank Jr wins this fight in big fashion, then his stocks will go up becoming probably the "cash-cow" of the mw division, assuming GGG retires or stays at 168.
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Tbh I'm intrigued about this boxing match. I mean Jr would go down a few lbs and have a rehydration weight limit clause. I'd not be surprised if they would have a rematch, or even a third fight, milking the game as much as they can.
If Eubank Jr wins this fight in big fashion, then his stocks will go up becoming probably the "cash-cow" of the mw division, assuming GGG retires or stays at 168.
If Eubank Jr wins this fight in big fashion, then his stocks will go up becoming probably the "cash-cow" of the mw division, assuming GGG retires or stays at 168.
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Conor Benn has posted training montage video to his social media accounts, showing him doing hex/trap bar deadlifts using significantly more weight than Anthony Joshua does.
I’m an intermediate level powerlifter, with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's, and even I find the weights he’s shifting pretty darn taxing to lift.
I really can’t help thinking he’s either using fake weights (to promote the fight) or he’s using hideously large bumper plates.
If the weights he’s lifting are genuine and wanted to swap sports, he’d very quickly become one of the top dog British deadlifters for his age and weight class,
I’m an intermediate level powerlifter, with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's, and even I find the weights he’s shifting pretty darn taxing to lift.
I really can’t help thinking he’s either using fake weights (to promote the fight) or he’s using hideously large bumper plates.
If the weights he’s lifting are genuine and wanted to swap sports, he’d very quickly become one of the top dog British deadlifters for his age and weight class,
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What’s he deadlifting?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 15:49 Conor Benn has posted training montage video to his social media accounts, showing him doing hex/trap bar deadlifts using significantly more weight than Anthony Joshua does.
I’m an intermediate level powerlifter, with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's, and even I find the weights he’s shifting pretty darn taxing to lift.
I really can’t help thinking he’s either using fake weights (to promote the fight) or he’s using hideously large bumper plates.
If the weights he’s lifting are genuine and wanted to swap sports, he’d very quickly become one of the top dog British deadlifters for his age and weight class,
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gregregegg wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 16:04What’s he deadlifting?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 15:49 Conor Benn has posted training montage video to his social media accounts, showing him doing hex/trap bar deadlifts using significantly more weight than Anthony Joshua does.
I’m an intermediate level powerlifter, with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's, and even I find the weights he’s shifting pretty darn taxing to lift.
I really can’t help thinking he’s either using fake weights (to promote the fight) or he’s using hideously large bumper plates.
If the weights he’s lifting are genuine and wanted to swap sports, he’d very quickly become one of the top dog British deadlifters for his age and weight class,

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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑14 Sep 2022, 15:49 Conor Benn has posted training montage video to his social media accounts, showing him doing hex/trap bar deadlifts using significantly more weight than Anthony Joshua does.
I’m an intermediate level powerlifter, with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's, and even I find the weights he’s shifting pretty darn taxing to lift.
I really can’t help thinking he’s either using fake weights (to promote the fight) or he’s using hideously large bumper plates.
If the weights he’s lifting are genuine and wanted to swap sports, he’d very quickly become one of the top dog British deadlifters for his age and weight class,
EO: "I’m an intermediate level powerlifter"
EO: "with my bodyweight being much heavier than Conor Benn's" - Here I think you re right , being an obese greasy tosser.
son, the only thing that you re lifting is your laptop
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He's doing a few forced deadlifts with the weights positioned on stackable blocks. Also he's not a tall dude like AJ. Probably there are around 200 kilos. That hex bar helps you a lot to have a better stability, balance and not put too much stress on your lumbar spine.
Anyway, I read that CEJr would have to be at 162 lbs on fight night, which is stupid. He may look like a mummy and his brain is gonna be ready to sleep, if so.
Anyway, I read that CEJr would have to be at 162 lbs on fight night, which is stupid. He may look like a mummy and his brain is gonna be ready to sleep, if so.
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This fight doesn't interest me.
One is going to come in a lot heavier than the other. If it wasn't for who their fathers were, we wouldn't be discussing this as an interesting fight.
One is going to come in a lot heavier than the other. If it wasn't for who their fathers were, we wouldn't be discussing this as an interesting fight.
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They are milking the names of their fathers as good as they can. Eubank Jr has no clue what he is doing by coming in at 162 lbs on fight night. He's gonna be crippled.
The former two-time super-middleweight titlist will have to make 157 pounds at the October 7 weigh-in. If he doesn’t, he’ll face a massive monetary penalty, or the fight will get scrapped.
At Friday’s media event, Eubank revealed the rehydration clause prevents him from being over 162 pounds on a Saturday check scaling.
Considering he spent most of his career competing at 168, that’s rancid for Eubank.
Junior admits it will be horrible to waif that far from a usual weight of around 180 pounds. And he’s forced to remain not far from that mark until the day of the fight.
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It looks a lot less than 200Kg. He's even put dumbells on the hex bar which is just daft. And banded kettlebell swings are among the more stupid activities i've seen in the gym. Kettlebells come in different weights for a reason.apollo creed wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 04:16 He's doing a few forced deadlifts with the weights positioned on stackable blocks. Also he's not a tall dude like AJ. Probably there are around 200 kilos. That hex bar helps you a lot to have a better stability, balance and not put too much stress on your lumbar spine.
Anyway, I read that CEJr would have to be at 162 lbs on fight night, which is stupid. He may look like a mummy and his brain is gonna be ready to sleep, if so.
He's not lifting anything there that i haven't seen people his size lift in a gym, in fact far less. It does confirm my opinion that boxers lifting in the gym much of the time have not a clue and just end up doing this sort of nonsense.
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He is just showboating with some weights to look impressive on social media. It looks like he is doing a savage work out but he's doing somekind of a cheating work out using momentum and short moves.Monzon83 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 20:00It looks a lot less than 200Kg. He's even put dumbells on the hex bar which is just daft. And banded kettlebell swings are among the more stupid activities i've seen in the gym. Kettlebells come in different weights for a reason.apollo creed wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 04:16 He's doing a few forced deadlifts with the weights positioned on stackable blocks. Also he's not a tall dude like AJ. Probably there are around 200 kilos. That hex bar helps you a lot to have a better stability, balance and not put too much stress on your lumbar spine.
Anyway, I read that CEJr would have to be at 162 lbs on fight night, which is stupid. He may look like a mummy and his brain is gonna be ready to sleep, if so.![]()
He's not lifting anything there that i haven't seen people his size lift in a gym, in fact far less. It does confirm my opinion that boxers lifting in the gym much of the time have not a clue and just end up doing this sort of nonsense.
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apollo creed wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 17:23They are milking the names of their fathers as good as they can. Eubank Jr has no clue what he is doing by coming in at 162 lbs on fight night. He's gonna be crippled.
The former two-time super-middleweight titlist will have to make 157 pounds at the October 7 weigh-in. If he doesn’t, he’ll face a massive monetary penalty, or the fight will get scrapped.
At Friday’s media event, Eubank revealed the rehydration clause prevents him from being over 162 pounds on a Saturday check scaling.
Considering he spent most of his career competing at 168, that’s rancid for Eubank.
Junior admits it will be horrible to waif that far from a usual weight of around 180 pounds. And he’s forced to remain not far from that mark until the day of the fight.
Yes, although on paper this looks straightforward for Eubank, if there's anything he's underestimated, this is it.
I can still remember Nigel Benn v Gerald McClellan and the shockwave that produced.
Chris Eubank Jr would be foolish to underestimate Conor Benn.
I'd say 90% of this fight hinges on the weight issue. I guess it could be worse for Chris, imagine if he had to enter the ring at 162lbs?
Then it'd be a 50/50 fight.
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In my opinion, stupid fight for Eubank. Stupid, unless you consider $. He'll be weight drained, against a younger, hungrier stud, who isn't great, but could win.
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He’s doing what’s known as block pull deadlifts that are actually a more challenging variant than standard trap bar deadlifts, because the blocks are there to prevent the use of leg drive.apollo creed wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 04:16 He's doing a few forced deadlifts with the weights positioned on stackable blocks. Also he's not a tall dude like AJ. Probably there are around 200 kilos. That hex bar helps you a lot to have a better stability, balance and not put too much stress on your lumbar spine.
Anyway, I read that CEJr would have to be at 162 lbs on fight night, which is stupid. He may look like a mummy and his brain is gonna be ready to sleep, if so.
Block pull deadlifts target the glutes and lower/mid back.
He could be using fake weights or bumper plates, which are simply a much larger rubber version of their slimmer/smaller cast iron counterparts.
Even if he’s using bumper plates, Benn’s strength is still impressive, considering his body weight.
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At 162 lbs Eubank Jr would come crippled on fight night. His stamina and his strength ain't gonna be there.
Chris Eubank Jr admits he will have to 'kill' himself to avoid a massive fine for missing the catchweight limit for his unique Sons Of Legends fight with Conor Benn.
The penalty for scaling above the agreed 157 lbs for the Eubank-Benn 111 at the O2 on October 8 is £125,000 per pound.
Of which Eubank says: 'I have too much respect for money to throw six figures away.' That would not make too much of a dent in the £3.5 million purse each is reported to be earning.
Its good money.
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apollo creed wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 11:22At 162 lbs Eubank Jr would come crippled on fight night. His stamina and his strength ain't gonna be there.
Chris Eubank Jr admits he will have to 'kill' himself to avoid a massive fine for missing the catchweight limit for his unique Sons Of Legends fight with Conor Benn.
The penalty for scaling above the agreed 157 lbs for the Eubank-Benn 111 at the O2 on October 8 is £125,000 per pound.
Of which Eubank says: 'I have too much respect for money to throw six figures away.' That would not make too much of a dent in the £3.5 million purse each is reported to be earning.
Its good money.
Let's hope Eubank makes weight. Conor Benn has got an awful lot to do as things stand.
£125,000 per every pound over is too lenient especially when you consider that it was the weight and the rehydration clause that caused the most difficulties in the agreement of the contract.
Eubank wouldn't be the first big favourite to lose because of weight cutting issues, and the Benn camp know that.
Perhaps the most famous case was that of the previously magnificent Don Curry whose defeat to Lloyd Honeyghan might still be the greatest upset of modern boxing.
"On this day 35 years ago inside the small Circus Maximus Showroom at Caesars Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, the boxing world – and Donald Curry’s world – was turned upside down by Lloyd Honeyghan, a British-based Jamaican who backed up his bold words with the performance of his athletic life.
His sixth-round corner-retirement TKO over Curry not only was the upset of the year but arguably the upset of the 1980s given Curry’s standing entering the fight and the heights many thought he could have reached had he chosen a different path."
https://www.ringtv.com/627412-a-fan-rem ... ars-later/
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How much do you think he's lifting, bearing in mind the hex bar itself weighs 30KG, or at least the one in my gym does.Monzon83 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2022, 20:00It looks a lot less than 200Kg. He's even put dumbells on the hex bar which is just daft.
He's not lifting anything there that i haven't seen people his size lift in a gym, in fact far less. It does confirm my opinion that boxers lifting in the gym much of the time have not a clue and just end up doing this sort of nonsense.
Since hex bars are usually 10KG heavier than typical 20KG barbells.
And don't forget the silver plates and the dumbbells resting on top of the hex bar.
I've added the numbers up and he looks like he's lifting close to three times his own bodyweight.
You seriously believe he's lifting "a lot less than 200KG"? And if so, what counts as "a lot less"?
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160kg tops by the look of it 
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Have you added the numbers up?
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i think he has as i dont think he would beat or deserve a big fight, he should have liam smith, i think jr look poor against morrosion , i would have like to have seen him fight feilx cash
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CEJ should just go as low as safely can - say 159 and pay Conor the £gibbon fine for being 2lbs over.
250 offa £3.5m purse is still fair, and it's no skankier than Benn having the catchweight in the first place.
250 offa £3.5m purse is still fair, and it's no skankier than Benn having the catchweight in the first place.
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A quick look to me its 2x 10 plates each side. 2x 20 each side. A couple light dumbbells and a couple 2.5 to 5s on the inside of the big plates. Bars between 20 and 30 
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-Bar 20 kgs (can be more but standard non powerlifting gym is 20)
-2x7kg dumbells
-2x aprox 5 kg metal plates.
-4x10kg plates
-4 x big plates, 20kgs i think (same brand as the 10s but thicker so likely 20s)
=20+14+10+40+80 =164kgs...
Could be bit more if its a heavyduty hex bar, or those 5s are 10s. but id say its most likely 164-175 kgs. Benn is probably 75 kgs in that shot so its kinda 2.1-2.33x bodyweight. Butttt, its of 6 inch blocks and hex bar gives you like 4+ inches in extra handle height, and connor is short. So he is only doing 1/3 of a deadlift anyway.
-2x7kg dumbells
-2x aprox 5 kg metal plates.
-4x10kg plates
-4 x big plates, 20kgs i think (same brand as the 10s but thicker so likely 20s)
=20+14+10+40+80 =164kgs...
Could be bit more if its a heavyduty hex bar, or those 5s are 10s. but id say its most likely 164-175 kgs. Benn is probably 75 kgs in that shot so its kinda 2.1-2.33x bodyweight. Butttt, its of 6 inch blocks and hex bar gives you like 4+ inches in extra handle height, and connor is short. So he is only doing 1/3 of a deadlift anyway.
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Perhaps too much is being made of the weight issue seeing as how Eubank Jr fought at MW for his last 4 fights since defeating James DeGale in early 2019.
It doesn't particularly look as if he was hurting himself too much to make 160 so maybe 157 is no big deal after all?
Perhaps it's Nigel Benn who should be the more concerned of the 2 fathers?
It doesn't particularly look as if he was hurting himself too much to make 160 so maybe 157 is no big deal after all?
Perhaps it's Nigel Benn who should be the more concerned of the 2 fathers?
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I calculate Benn’s lift to be at least 174KG (assuming a 30KG hex bar), but there are also weights between the 10KG plates that we can't see, since that hex bar is using bands rather than collars to keep everything in place.gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Sep 2022, 20:17 -Bar 20 kgs (can be more but standard non powerlifting gym is 20)
-2x7kg dumbells
-2x aprox 5 kg metal plates.
-4x10kg plates
-4 x big plates, 20kgs i think (same brand as the 10s but thicker so likely 20s)
=20+14+10+40+80 =164kgs...
Could be bit more if its a heavyduty hex bar, or those 5s are 10s. but id say its most likely 164-175 kgs. Benn is probably 75 kgs in that shot so its kinda 2.1-2.33x bodyweight. Butttt, its of 6 inch blocks and hex bar gives you like 4+ inches in extra handle height, and connor is short. So he is only doing 1/3 of a deadlift anyway.
I can’t see what those plates are, but even if we opt for a pessimistic figure, say a 5KG plate on either side, then he’s still lifting at least 184KG’s, which is a lot for a man of his size.
Of course, those four big plates could be of the 25KG variety instead of 20KG, which would take Conor's lift to at least 194KG's.
Like I keep telling everybody, which is based on personal experience, coupled with the training plans used by accomplished powerlifters...
Despite the reduced range of motion, block pull deadlifts are tougher than normal trap bar deadlifts, because they prevent athletes from using leg drive, with this exercise targeting the glutes and lower/mid back.
I am an intermediate powerlifter. And I have also watched AJ, Fury and Wilder struggle to deadlift the weight that Connor is allegedly pulling.
You also refer to Connor Benn’s lack of height as being an advantage, due to the reduced range of motion, but if this really was the case, then why are all the world deadlift record holders giants (i.e. Hafþór Björnsson, Eddie Hall, Brian Shaw, Mark Felix, Terry Hollands etc.)?
And to make matters worse, Connor Benn isn’t even wearing a belt, making the lift even more challenging.
If Connor Benn was in bare feet, equipped with a belt, with the hex bar on the floor (instead of the blocks), then he’d easily be capable of lifting 200KG.
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ok EO, now chill . you re like a cheerleader when Benn is lifting those weights. he's a 1,73 m person doing a few squeezed dead lifts with the help of a hex bar and those high stackable weightlifting blocks. probably 180 kilos.
The concern that I see is that Eubank Jr would probably be a shade of himself at 162 lbs on fight night. He should've
adamantly demanded a rehydration of 10-15 lbs, not 5 lbs, otherwise fight is off.
The concern that I see is that Eubank Jr would probably be a shade of himself at 162 lbs on fight night. He should've
adamantly demanded a rehydration of 10-15 lbs, not 5 lbs, otherwise fight is off.