Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez vs. Gennadiy 'GGG' Golovkin III - DAZN PPV - 17 September 2022

Who wins?

Poll ended at 17 Sep 2022, 16:24

Alvarez - Decision
26
55%
Alvarez - T/KO
15
32%
DRAW
2
4%
Golovkin - T/KO
2
4%
Golovkin - Decision
2
4%
 
Total votes: 47

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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
I've always fancied Bivol at 168, wouldn't be against that, good opportunity for Bivol to become a 2 weight champ
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handsofstone wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 11:43
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
I've always fancied Bivol at 168, wouldn't be against that, good opportunity for Bivol to become a 2 weight champ
Undisputed champ.

Should deffo go for it.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
canelo said he doesnt want to fight bivol at 168 - only at 175 .
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handsofstone wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 11:43
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
I've always fancied Bivol at 168, wouldn't be against that, good opportunity for Bivol to become a 2 weight champ
Surely it’s too big an ask to get down to 168, wouldn’t it diminish him massively ?
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stevec@france wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 12:25
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
canelo said he doesnt want to fight bivol at 168 - only at 175 .
Fairplay to him if he does
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“I was disappointed by the efforts. It looked like one guy wasn’t ready to fight, and the other guy was glad,” said Abel Sanchez to Fight Hub TV about last Saturday’s trilogy fight between Canelo Alvarez and Gennadiy Golovkin.

“It didn’t go as I thought it would go. I felt like Gennadiy’s first eight rounds were like hitting the mitts. It was like two friends sparring with one another.

“Canelo was throwing punches with bad intentions, and Gennadiy was not aggressive enough to try and win the fight. It seemed like at the beginning anyway, but not towards the end.

“It just seemed like he was happy to be there and not to try and win but to go 12 rounds and survive the 12 rounds. That’s not Gennadiy to me.

“That’s a good excuse, but I don’t buy it,” said Sanchez when told that Golovkin said that he made a “strategic” mistake by conserving his energy in the first nine rounds.

“If he was 30 years old or 20 years old, okay, I could see it because he has a long career ahead of him. He’s 40 years old; he fighting at a weight where he’s not putting his belts in danger; nobody has ever hurt him in a fight.

“You try to win by being aggressive. If you run out of gas, you run out of gas, but the other guy is going to run out of gas too. He’s in the same boat. Actually, I thought Canelo may have been breathing a little heavy towards the end of the fight.

“Imagine if Gennadiy had applied some pressure, then he really would have run out of gas. That’s a good excuse, but I don’t buy it. Since we parted, he’s tried to put on a different persona inside the ring, a different style, a different way of addressing every round.

“When we were together, we addressed every round. It wasn’t a fight. It wasn’t 12 rounds, and it wasn’t what was going to happen in the end. I wanted to win every round and do whatever we could to win every round.

“It seemed like he was reacting to what Canelo was doing, and that wasn’t the Gennadiy that I knew. If he doesn’t want to do it, it doesn’t matter what we say in the corner.

“Johnathon was trying to urge him, but you can only do in a fight what you did in the gym. It’s not going to change his mind because he’s only intuned to what he wants to do,” said Sanchez.
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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 14:58
handsofstone wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 11:43
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 08:33 No chance Canelo agrees to fight Biv at 175 again. He’ll dangle a huge cash incentive to make the fight at 168 or 170 and of course Biv will accept.
I've always fancied Bivol at 168, wouldn't be against that, good opportunity for Bivol to become a 2 weight champ
Surely it’s too big an ask to get down to 168, wouldn’t it diminish him massively ?
Maybe but Bivol's a small Light Heavy, he gets away with it because he's supremely skilled, I reckon he can make Super Middle easily enough but again who knows?
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handsofstone wrote: 20 Sep 2022, 06:26
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 14:58
handsofstone wrote: 19 Sep 2022, 11:43

I've always fancied Bivol at 168, wouldn't be against that, good opportunity for Bivol to become a 2 weight champ
Surely it’s too big an ask to get down to 168, wouldn’t it diminish him massively ?
Maybe but Bivol's a small Light Heavy, he gets away with it because he's supremely skilled, I reckon he can make Super Middle easily enough but again who knows?
He has said previously he can make 168.

He was looking to fight Smith at 168 previously.
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It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
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These behind the scenes are pretty good

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garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 06:44 It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
That’s not bad. I mean it’s still Canelo at the end of the day.
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garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 06:44 It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
It’s rare to have close to firmed up numbers by now so it’ll be interesting to see what else comes out. I’d be amazed if anyone from DAZN supplied those numbers as they’ll clearly be used as a reason for big name fighters not to fight on DAZN.

I reckon they’d be needing about 800k buys to cover costs. Perhaps they got another 5k buys from the U.K. to add to the pot 🫤

I’m surprised Eddie hasn’t gone back to Dan to push on the numbers. Perhaps they’re close to reality.
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maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 09:11
garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 06:44 It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
It’s rare to have close to firmed up numbers by now so it’ll be interesting to see what else comes out. I’d be amazed if anyone from DAZN supplied those numbers as they’ll clearly be used as a reason for big name fighters not to fight on DAZN.

I reckon they’d be needing about 800k buys to cover costs. Perhaps they got another 5k buys from the U.K. to add to the pot 🫤

I’m surprised Eddie hasn’t gone back to Dan to push on the numbers. Perhaps they’re close to reality.
Agree with you. Much easier though for majorly streamed PPV numbers rather than when they are going through different carriers in the traditional way.

Eddie has already replied with two emojis suggesting Dan is lying. He'll be asked the question plenty so we'll see how strong he goes......But really you'd prefer to hear from someone at DAZN.
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garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 09:50
maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 09:11
garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 06:44 It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
It’s rare to have close to firmed up numbers by now so it’ll be interesting to see what else comes out. I’d be amazed if anyone from DAZN supplied those numbers as they’ll clearly be used as a reason for big name fighters not to fight on DAZN.

I reckon they’d be needing about 800k buys to cover costs. Perhaps they got another 5k buys from the U.K. to add to the pot 🫤

I’m surprised Eddie hasn’t gone back to Dan to push on the numbers. Perhaps they’re close to reality.
Agree with you. Much easier though for majorly streamed PPV numbers rather than when they are going through different carriers in the traditional way.

Eddie has already replied with two emojis suggesting Dan is lying. He'll be asked the question plenty so we'll see how strong he goes......But really you'd prefer to hear from someone at DAZN.
Yeah. It’s easier to have count then via digital buys but I’d imagine a decent sized % of people still bought the PPV through linear TV. I think it’d be as high as 30-40% for a fight like this.

Markowski won’t be saying anything re: PPV buys other than they were pleased with it which is a shame. Will be interesting to see what Eddie says about it.
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maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 09:11
garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 06:44 It's suggested via Dan Rafael that this did 550-575k views only in the US. I would be amazed if that was correct - Hearn will be out with a different view pretty sharpish I reckon.

If that is correct, then someone has lost their shirt big time on that fight.
It’s rare to have close to firmed up numbers by now so it’ll be interesting to see what else comes out. I’d be amazed if anyone from DAZN supplied those numbers as they’ll clearly be used as a reason for big name fighters not to fight on DAZN.

I reckon they’d be needing about 800k buys to cover costs. Perhaps they got another 5k buys from the U.K. to add to the pot 🫤

I’m surprised Eddie hasn’t gone back to Dan to push on the numbers. Perhaps they’re close to reality.
He posted a pinnochio emoji in response. But I hardly expect it will end up being a million buys.
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Canelo-Golovkin III Generated 1.06 Million 'Worldwide' Buys

DAZN has issued a statement to indicate that last weekend's pay-per-view event, which featured the trilogy fight between Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin, generated 1.06 million pay-per-view purchases.

However, the streaming app was very clear that the buyrate figure was a "worldwide" number.

It was reported earlier this week by longtime boxing scribe Dan Rafael of Fight Freaks Unite that Canelo-Golovkin III generated between 550-575,000 buys in the United States - which industry insiders view as a disappointing number.

The first two bouts, which were distributed by HBO Pay-Per-View, generated double the number of buys in the United States. The first meeting, in 2017, brought in 1.3 million buys just in the United States. And in 2018, the rematch bought in 1.1 million pay-per-view buys - just in the United States.

The third encounter saw Canelo outbox Golovkin over twelve rounds for a dominant unanimous decision win.

DAZN further stated - "[Canelo-Golovkin 3] claims the title of #3 biggest boxing event globally on DAZN since its inception and #2 biggest boxing event in the United States since its 2018 launch. Moreover, DAZN was once again the most downloaded sports app in the world, in addition to being the highest grossing app of any category in the United States.

"Additionally, DAZN saw tremendous growth across its commercial premise partners, including +71% across bars, restaurants, casinos, and cinemas compared to Canelo’s last fight against Dmitry Bivol in May; this included fans all across the nation coming together to watch live in 680+ cinemas in the United States alone. Engagement records were set on social media as well, including TikTok fight night content that was the highest-performing of any DAZN boxing event in history (7.9 million views)."
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:39 Canelo-Golovkin III Generated 1.06 Million 'Worldwide' Buys

DAZN has issued a statement to indicate that last weekend's pay-per-view event, which featured the trilogy fight between Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin, generated 1.06 million pay-per-view purchases.

However, the streaming app was very clear that the buyrate figure was a "worldwide" number.

It was reported earlier this week by longtime boxing scribe Dan Rafael of Fight Freaks Unite that Canelo-Golovkin III generated between 550-575,000 buys in the United States - which industry insiders view as a disappointing number.

The first two bouts, which were distributed by HBO Pay-Per-View, generated double the number of buys in the United States. The first meeting, in 2017, brought in 1.3 million buys just in the United States. And in 2018, the rematch bought in 1.1 million pay-per-view buys - just in the United States.

The third encounter saw Canelo outbox Golovkin over twelve rounds for a dominant unanimous decision win.

DAZN further stated - "[Canelo-Golovkin 3] claims the title of #3 biggest boxing event globally on DAZN since its inception and #2 biggest boxing event in the United States since its 2018 launch. Moreover, DAZN was once again the most downloaded sports app in the world, in addition to being the highest grossing app of any category in the United States.

"Additionally, DAZN saw tremendous growth across its commercial premise partners, including +71% across bars, restaurants, casinos, and cinemas compared to Canelo’s last fight against Dmitry Bivol in May; this included fans all across the nation coming together to watch live in 680+ cinemas in the United States alone. Engagement records were set on social media as well, including TikTok fight night content that was the highest-performing of any DAZN boxing event in history (7.9 million views)."
Where was it PPV? US and U.K. obviously. Anywhere else?
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maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:41
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:39 Canelo-Golovkin III Generated 1.06 Million 'Worldwide' Buys

DAZN has issued a statement to indicate that last weekend's pay-per-view event, which featured the trilogy fight between Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin, generated 1.06 million pay-per-view purchases.

However, the streaming app was very clear that the buyrate figure was a "worldwide" number.

It was reported earlier this week by longtime boxing scribe Dan Rafael of Fight Freaks Unite that Canelo-Golovkin III generated between 550-575,000 buys in the United States - which industry insiders view as a disappointing number.

The first two bouts, which were distributed by HBO Pay-Per-View, generated double the number of buys in the United States. The first meeting, in 2017, brought in 1.3 million buys just in the United States. And in 2018, the rematch bought in 1.1 million pay-per-view buys - just in the United States.

The third encounter saw Canelo outbox Golovkin over twelve rounds for a dominant unanimous decision win.

DAZN further stated - "[Canelo-Golovkin 3] claims the title of #3 biggest boxing event globally on DAZN since its inception and #2 biggest boxing event in the United States since its 2018 launch. Moreover, DAZN was once again the most downloaded sports app in the world, in addition to being the highest grossing app of any category in the United States.

"Additionally, DAZN saw tremendous growth across its commercial premise partners, including +71% across bars, restaurants, casinos, and cinemas compared to Canelo’s last fight against Dmitry Bivol in May; this included fans all across the nation coming together to watch live in 680+ cinemas in the United States alone. Engagement records were set on social media as well, including TikTok fight night content that was the highest-performing of any DAZN boxing event in history (7.9 million views)."
Where was it PPV? US and U.K. obviously. Anywhere else?
Where was it on NZ and Aus?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:43
maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:41
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:39 Canelo-Golovkin III Generated 1.06 Million 'Worldwide' Buys

DAZN has issued a statement to indicate that last weekend's pay-per-view event, which featured the trilogy fight between Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Gennadiy “GGG” Golovkin, generated 1.06 million pay-per-view purchases.

However, the streaming app was very clear that the buyrate figure was a "worldwide" number.

It was reported earlier this week by longtime boxing scribe Dan Rafael of Fight Freaks Unite that Canelo-Golovkin III generated between 550-575,000 buys in the United States - which industry insiders view as a disappointing number.

The first two bouts, which were distributed by HBO Pay-Per-View, generated double the number of buys in the United States. The first meeting, in 2017, brought in 1.3 million buys just in the United States. And in 2018, the rematch bought in 1.1 million pay-per-view buys - just in the United States.

The third encounter saw Canelo outbox Golovkin over twelve rounds for a dominant unanimous decision win.

DAZN further stated - "[Canelo-Golovkin 3] claims the title of #3 biggest boxing event globally on DAZN since its inception and #2 biggest boxing event in the United States since its 2018 launch. Moreover, DAZN was once again the most downloaded sports app in the world, in addition to being the highest grossing app of any category in the United States.

"Additionally, DAZN saw tremendous growth across its commercial premise partners, including +71% across bars, restaurants, casinos, and cinemas compared to Canelo’s last fight against Dmitry Bivol in May; this included fans all across the nation coming together to watch live in 680+ cinemas in the United States alone. Engagement records were set on social media as well, including TikTok fight night content that was the highest-performing of any DAZN boxing event in history (7.9 million views)."
Where was it PPV? US and U.K. obviously. Anywhere else?
Where was it on NZ and Aus?
A DAZN contract in the US will set you back $19.99 per month or $149.99 for the year, and you'll need to pay an additional PPV fee of $64.99 to watch Canelo vs GGG 3.

It's a similar picture in Canada, where DAZN is priced at CA$20 per month or CA$150 per year, and the Canelo vs GGG 3 PPV price is set at CA$64.99 on top or $84.98 for new subscribers.

DAZN costs £7.99 in the UK, with the Canelo vs GGG 3 PPV priced at £9.99 for current and £17.98 for new subscribers, while for Aussies it's AUS$13.99 for a monthly subscription with the pay per view priced at AUS$44.99 for current and AUS$58.98 for new subscribers.

Finally for viewers in New Zealand, a subscription costs NZ$14.99 with the PPV costing $24.99 NZD for current and $39.98 NZD for new subscribers
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Thanks Ruthless.

There’s no way that it did 400k buys in the U.K./Canada/NZ and Aus.

I’d imagine something like 850-900k buys in the US.
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maverick23 wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 14:57 Thanks Ruthless.

There’s no way that it did 400k buys in the U.K./Canada/NZ and Aus.

I’d imagine something like 850-900k buys in the US.
Well you got Canada too. They had it prime time. May have done a decent figure there.

NZ and Aus get fleeced for their own PPV. This would have taken place on Sunday Afternoon live.

Probably upto 900k in US/Canada.

Rest be upto the other regions.

We don’t know what the 2nd fight did on BT PPV, but at least that was an anticipated rematch.
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That 1.06 million figure appears to include anyone who watched through DAZN worldwide ppv or subscription.
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Eddie is being super defensive on Twitter today. Absolutely no way it was a successful or profitable show.
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garethhop wrote: 21 Sep 2022, 16:31 That 1.06 million figure appears to include anyone who watched through DAZN worldwide ppv or subscription.
I read it as PPV buys (through linear or through new subscribers) or buys from existing subscribers I.E. it would exclude people who watched it as part of their normal monthly subs.
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