Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[DrDuke]

What kind of fool ‘imagines’ another man’s frustration. You really are a creepy weirdo.

Why so rude, sister? Tough times with your PMS?

From aggression to joy. Sister, that's PMS for sure.

[The Docker]

Not sure really how a Fury win over Joshua would make Fury even more of an A side in the Usyk fight - Fury is already considered the #1 in the division and Usyk considered the only man that can really beat him - if Fury beats Joshua that will not change any of that - but what happens if Joshua beats Fury (and twice) - I think Usyk vs AJ 3 is quite a tough sell really (well not to the fans who will spend the money regardless of who AJ fights)- I think mentally AJ is a mile off from fighting Usyk - I think he knows he can't beat him and lets be honest at most he won 5 out of 24 rounds and in both fights AJ had all the cards on his side of the table.

youre right, and of course any person looking at this rationally knows that an undefeated fury-usyk is a bigger fight than usyk-josh 3

Usyk v Fury
Usyk v Wilder
Wilder v Joshua
Joshua v Fury

Are all bigger fan fights than Usyk / Joshua part 3.

[margaret thatcher]

yep

[DrDuke]

ummm....wouldnt his frustration be if helenius kos wilder and joshua then kos fury? because then it knocks back both big fight options for him. helenius-usyk and aj-usyk 3 just arent that interesting

the big fight now is fury-usyk, so i dont really see the frustration in your scenario. it would just keep that alive. i guess you werent willing to entertain your man fury losing even in imaginary scenarios

Team Usyk seems to be not so happy with Fury not waiting for them and trying to make even more money without them, since they talk about the Wilder fight. Fury's commercial success will only make it harder for Usyk to demand more. So, if Fury KOs Joshua, he'll be a huuuge side A vs Usyk, even bigger than now.

bruh, nothing would devalue usyk's money vs fury more than fury losing to aj. then we'd have helly-usyk, usyk vs a losing fury, and usyk-aj 3, all of which are smaller fights than if fury beats josh

clearly the worst case for usyk is if helenius and joshua win. it's okay, its just hypothetical talk, it doesnt mean fury would actually lose to joshua

Of course, if Fury loses to Joshua, it'll be a fiasco, but obviously the AJ fight is an easier and bigger payday for Fury, than the Usyk option. And for Usyk trying to negotiate with Fury will be harder than now, if Fury bulks his marketability with a win over Joshua. Yes, it'll be better for Usyk if Fury wins, but it would be even better to organize a fight against him now.

[CaptainSpacerod]

Nobody’s avoiding anybody.

Fury‘s camp have rightly assessed that to maximise revenue from an AJ fight the best time to do that is now. Usyk’ understandably wants to wait until Spring for the unification fight and that gives Fury a window to fit in a fight now. If he beats AJ he fights Usyk next May or June.

[Spud]

I dont know why but I have a hunch this is going to be a great fight

[Gnome]

Nobody’s avoiding anybody.

Fury‘s camp have rightly assessed that to maximise revenue from an AJ fight the best time to do that is now. Usyk’ understandably wants to wait until Spring for the unification fight and that gives Fury a window to fit in a fight now. If he beats AJ he fights Usyk next May or June.

The best time would have been before AJ lost three fights...

[CaptainSpacerod]

The best time would have been before AJ lost three fights...

True but a US judge kiboshed that plan so we are where we are.

[Wee Tommy]

Why so rude, sister? Tough times with your PMS?

From aggression to joy. Sister, that's PMS for sure.

Not that there’s anything wrong with it but your closeted homosexuality must be causing you a lot of issues.

I hope you can be free one day.

[brilo33]

Not sure really how a Fury win over Joshua would make Fury even more of an A side in the Usyk fight - Fury is already considered the #1 in the division and Usyk considered the only man that can really beat him - if Fury beats Joshua that will not change any of that - but what happens if Joshua beats Fury (and twice) - I think Usyk vs AJ 3 is quite a tough sell really (well not to the fans who will spend the money regardless of who AJ fights)- I think mentally AJ is a mile off from fighting Usyk - I think he knows he can't beat him and lets be honest at most he won 5 out of 24 rounds and in both fights AJ had all the cards on his side of the table.

the thing is tho usyk is out for half a year , fury cant wait whole yea for usyk, and lets face it if fury loses to aj there be a huge rematch that will be bigger than the first fight, win win, sorry if that has already been said i havent read through yet

[Ruthless-RKO]

The best time would have been before AJ lost three fights...

True but a US judge kiboshed that plan so we are where we are.

He lost by stoppage

[mickey1975]

From aggression to joy. Sister, that's PMS for sure.

Not that there’s anything wrong with it but your closeted homosexuality must be causing you a lot of issues.

I hope you can be free one day.

How did you reach that conclusion? Why embarrass yourself? Serious question?

[DrDuke]

From aggression to joy. Sister, that's PMS for sure.

Not that there’s anything wrong with it but your closeted homosexuality must be causing you a lot of issues.

I hope you can be free one day.

How did you reach that conclusion? Why embarrass yourself? Serious question?

Them bleeding girls are so ridiculous sometimes.

[Wee Tommy]

From aggression to joy. Sister, that's PMS for sure.

Not that there’s anything wrong with it but your closeted homosexuality must be causing you a lot of issues.

I hope you can be free one day.

How did you reach that conclusion? Why embarrass yourself? Serious question?

Nice one.

[tonyevs]

I dont know why but I have a hunch this is going to be a great fight

Yes I too feel it will be a great fight.

Their strengths & weaknesses should gel very well if both guys are motivated - which I fully expect.

Comparing the Fury of the 3rd Wilder fight against the Joshua of the 2nd Usyk fight makes it an intriguing fight ..

Ps. I'm discounting Fury v Whyte because Whytes chin/ambition had seriously gone by then.

[CaptainSpacerod]

The best time would have been before AJ lost three fights...

True but a US judge kiboshed that plan so we are where we are.

He lost by stoppage

No I mean we could’ve had AJ v Fury for all the belts had the US arbitration court judge not ruled that Fury had to fight Wilder for a 3rd time

[Ruthless-RKO]

True but a US judge kiboshed that plan so we are where we are.

He lost by stoppage

No I mean we could’ve had AJ v Fury for all the belts had the US arbitration court judge not ruled that Fury had to fight Wilder for a 3rd time

Oh Yh.. sorry. Yeh. That prick!

[Ruthless-RKO]

expect to pay between £29.95 and £34.95 or worse

[TBA]

The best time would have been before AJ lost three fights...

But the best time for the fight for Fury is now.

He will be the A side for the financial split.

He will now be the one with the rematch clause if he loses, and not Joshua.

[tony1234]

expect to pay between £29.95 and £34.95 or worse

The contract hasn't arrived yet, anyone seen it ?

[Ruthless-RKO]

expect to pay between £29.95 and £34.95 or worse

The contract hasn't arrived yet, anyone seen it ?

last time I heard, it was with AJ's team.

Unsure if AJ's team have marked it as read..

[tony1234]

expect to pay between £29.95 and £34.95 or worse

The contract hasn't arrived yet, anyone seen it ?

last time I heard, it was with AJ's team.

Unsure if AJ's team have marked it as read..

The mourning excuse is gone so hopefully it is done or consigned to the bin

[Ruthless-RKO]

allegedly gives promising 11-word update on huge fight

“No. It’s not signed yet,” Warren told talkSPORT. “We’re waiting for them to come back to us. But I don’t see any reason why it shouldn’t be signed. The main crux of the negotiations are the splits which are agreed – 60/40. There’s a rematch clause which is agreed – 50/50.

“The big problem was when the fight would take place, it’s December. That side of it, we satisfied any worries they may have. There’s no worries about payment because they will get paid direct from the respective TV companies, so that side of it’s sorted out.

“To give everybody comfort we’ve even said that they can be involved in all the broadcast contracts, sponsorships and everything, so they can see that everything’s above board.”

[The Gratest]

The great Manuel Charr calling out Fury. Thank God there's someone to fall back on should the unthinkable happen and somehow another deadline or term cannot be met for Fury v Joshua.

[forcefraser]

Both this and the Eubank v Benn fight will be pulled.