Eubank Jr/his team did a very good business move by fighting Benn! Big money domestic fight in UK!

[Enlightened-One]

ok EO, now chill . you re like a cheerleader when Benn is lifting those weights. he's a 1,73 m person doing a few squeezed dead lifts with the help of a hex bar and those high stackable weightlifting blocks. probably 180 kilos.

The concern that I see is that Eubank Jr would probably be a shade of himself at 162 lbs on fight night. He should've
adamantly demanded a rehydration of 10-15 lbs, not 5 lbs, otherwise fight is off.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of powerlifting. So I'll refrain from commenting on this sport further, since it's a boxing forum.

In terms of Eubank Jr., you could be right. He could be weight drained. He's a big dude, but could run out-of-gas quickly or have no power or strength to deter Connor Benn from trading on the inside.

[apollo creed]

ok EO, now chill . you re like a cheerleader when Benn is lifting those weights. he's a 1,73 m person doing a few squeezed dead lifts with the help of a hex bar and those high stackable weightlifting blocks. probably 180 kilos.

The concern that I see is that Eubank Jr would probably be a shade of himself at 162 lbs on fight night. He should've
adamantly demanded a rehydration of 10-15 lbs, not 5 lbs, otherwise fight is off.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan of powerlifting. So I'll refrain from commenting on this sport further, since it's a boxing forum.

In terms of Eubank Jr., you could be right. He could be weight drained. He's a big dude, but could run out-of-gas quickly or have no power or strength to deter Connor Benn from trading on the inside.

If Jr looks poor or gets beaten/ stopped by Benn then his stock would go down big time , from being the fighter who beat DeGale.

[apollo creed]

Eubank Jr is very good at trolling and banter.

gold comedy

[Thomastearns]

Eubank is probably getting his weight down gradually to touchdown at 157lbs on the 7th October and then get back to 162lbs for the following day weigh in.

It's the rehydration clause that makes this fight interesting but the exact details remain a bit sketchy.

For example, what time will this 2nd weigh-in take place?

Unless Eubank is made to enter the ring at 162lbs he'll still have a huge advantage.

[apollo creed]

Eubank is probably getting his weight down gradually to touchdown at 157lbs on the 7th October and then get back to 162lbs for the following day weigh in.

It's the rehydration clause that makes this fight interesting but the exact details remain a bit sketchy.

For example, what time will this 2nd weigh-in take place?

Unless Eubank is made to enter the ring at 162lbs he'll still have a huge advantage.

well, yes, if the second weigh in before the ring entrance is a few good hours earlier, then Jr could rehydrated better and reduce his "handicap".

[apollo creed]

Chris Eubank Jr will have to make a 157lb catchweight for his grudge fight with Conor Benn on October 8, a weight he hasn't touched since his teens.

The middleweight contender has fought as heavy as 168lb, but recently opted to return to 160lb in order to pursue titles in the lighter division. But despite already struggling with that limit, he will go another three pounds lower in order to fight Benn, who is moving up two weight divisions.

He will then also have to weigh-in at 11am the morning of the fight in order to make sure he hasn't rehydrated to a weight too heavy for the contest to take place. That has not been confirmed as yet, but reports suggest it will be as little as 162lb.

“It’s more of a challenge, I will make that weight, it’s just how hard is it going to be? I don’t know, but I will make it because I’m a professional - I think I’m around 170lb right now, 171lb. The issue is I have a very low body fat percentage. I know how it feels when I’m at 160lbs the day of the weigh in, so losing three more pounds under that, it’s going to be painful, it’s going to hurt."

If his last weigh in will be in the morning at 11, then he has plenty of time to rehydrated.

[Thomastearns]

Eubank has repeated that he will retire if he loses and Benn has stated he intends to knock him out early.

Even if the fight itself is a washout the event is going to be a spectacle.

Just to see Eubank Sr and Benn Sr face to face once more should be interesting enough.

At the very least it's going to be one intense evening.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Sr is keeping himself distant for some reason

[jamesmcdonnell]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

[brilo33]

i think benn has done well making this fight, lets face it no one outside boxing fans i mean real boxing fans really know of benn, eubank jr is a name, benn is a under dog small man 2 weights lower than Eubank jr British public will love that already ,if he goes at eubanks and has success he will gain fans if he puts up a great fight loses to eubanks will gain lots more fans,as long as benn is game he will grow from this fight similar to fury wilder 1

[Bandog]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

[brilo33]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

bandog ur american right sorry if iam wrong , is there a lot of noise from any of these fighters

[apollo creed]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

Yup, probably Jr is gonna feel alright to fight but after a few tough rounds, the fatigue and the weakness of the body would get severe. Its a good recipe for a stoppage or a ko loss.

[coneye]

Really we do not know , , were seeing all this 157 ,, no more than 162 ,, , Yet i just can't see why a good pro who has a name and can get good money anyway would kill himself and risk a humiliating defeat losing weight he just can't do and stay healthy ,, money speaks volumes so guess we will see , personally i think he's probably doable at 162 , but killing himself at 157 , so it will happen ,, regards the weights with Benn , Mmmm well far has i'm concerned load of bollocks , don't know and don't pretend to know much about weights , but my opinio and its only an opinion which like assholes everyone has them , but heavy weights build up muscle he does'nt need , its all done for show , . Me i would have him sparring and doing padwork inbetween rnds leaning pushing and shoving a heavy guy ready to spring into action after 1 minuite of this , all controlled obviously , , but i used to do it being a big guy , it was intense pads , then lean and wrestle in the break , it really did make guys stronger

[Thomastearns]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

Yup, probably Jr is gonna feel alright to fight but after a few tough rounds, the fatigue and the weakness of the body would get severe. Its a good recipe for a stoppage or a ko loss.

I don't think we've ever seen Eubank in real trouble before.

Even in those 2 fights he lost, Groves, where he gave away a ton of weight, and Saunders, a close match, Jr didn't look in any danger of being stopped.

Unless this weight drain does anything it's going to be a tough night for Conor Benn.

On the other hand Eubank isn't the kind of fighter who carries much fat on him between fights.

So who knows what the weight cut will do?

It won't be as bad as what Lemieux used to do to himself (he once ended up hospitalised) but it's Conor Benn's best, maybe only hope.

[apollo creed]

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

Yup, probably Jr is gonna feel alright to fight but after a few tough rounds, the fatigue and the weakness of the body would get severe. Its a good recipe for a stoppage or a ko loss.

I don't think we've ever seen Eubank in real trouble before.

Even in those 2 fights he lost, Groves, where he gave away a ton of weight, and Saunders, a close match, Jr didn't look in any danger of being stopped.

Unless this weight drain does anything it's going to be a tough night for Conor Benn.

On the other hand Eubank isn't the kind of fighter who carries much fat on him between fights.

So who knows what the weight cut will do?

It won't be as bad as what Lemieux used to do to himself (he once ended up hospitalised) but it's Conor Benn's best, maybe only hope.

Jr is very ripped when he's fighting fully rehydrated. But cutting down even more muscle mass and rehydrated only 5 lbs is just stupid imo.

[apollo creed]

Really we do not know , , were seeing all this 157 ,, no more than 162 ,, , Yet i just can't see why a good pro who has a name and can get good money anyway would kill himself and risk a humiliating defeat losing weight he just can't do and stay healthy ,, money speaks volumes so guess we will see , personally i think he's probably doable at 162 , but killing himself at 157 , so it will happen ,, regards the weights with Benn , Mmmm well far has i'm concerned load of bollocks , don't know and don't pretend to know much about weights , but my opinio and its only an opinion which like assholes everyone has them , but heavy weights build up muscle he does'nt need , its all done for show , . Me i would have him sparring and doing padwork inbetween rnds leaning pushing and shoving a heavy guy ready to spring into action after 1 minuite of this , all controlled obviously , , but i used to do it being a big guy , it was intense pads , then lean and wrestle in the break , it really did make guys stronger

This fight does good numbers in UK, no doubt but that 5 lbs rehydration clause on fight night is just bad negotiations regarding Eubank Jr's health and condition. 10-15 lbs rehydration would've been ok.

Eubank Jr vs GGG, Munguia or Charlo would make good numbers too.

[Syntax Error]

Eubank Jr is very good at trolling and banter.

gold comedy

He's just like his father.

Senior similarly wound Nigel up despite Eubank Sr appearing more like a comedy character than an actual fighter.

[coneye]

someone else also asked , is Benn subject to the same hydration clause

[apollo creed]

someone else also asked , is Benn subject to the same hydration clause

I think Yes.

The fight will be high risk, high reward for both, particularly with the prospect of a hefty fine on the cards, with boxing reporter Dan Rafael stating the pair will be fined $100,000 (£82,000) of their purse for every pound weighed in above the 157lb limit.

Benn, speaking to BBC 5 live on Thursday morning, confirmed that, as well as their standard Friday weigh-in, they will also take to the scales on the day of the fight, ensuring neither fighter - more likely Eubank Jr - will gain a significant weight advantage overnight

[Bandog]

It should be a cakewalk for Eubank, unless of course he's drained to hell, but I'm sure he's going to have some top notch advice for losing weight and rehydrating safely.

The rehydration clause will hurt him more than making the weight. Bullshit they allow crap like that, and boxers are stupid enough to agree to it. $ talks, unfortunately.

bandog ur american right sorry if iam wrong , is there a lot of noise from any of these fighters

Yes, USA! Honestly I wish we had the fan base that other countries have. Fickle fans here. Not much noise until close to good fights from well known fighters.

[Bandog]

Yup, probably Jr is gonna feel alright to fight but after a few tough rounds, the fatigue and the weakness of the body would get severe. Its a good recipe for a stoppage or a ko loss.

I don't think we've ever seen Eubank in real trouble before.

Even in those 2 fights he lost, Groves, where he gave away a ton of weight, and Saunders, a close match, Jr didn't look in any danger of being stopped.

Unless this weight drain does anything it's going to be a tough night for Conor Benn.

On the other hand Eubank isn't the kind of fighter who carries much fat on him between fights.

So who knows what the weight cut will do?

It won't be as bad as what Lemieux used to do to himself (he once ended up hospitalised) but it's Conor Benn's best, maybe only hope.

Jr is very ripped when he's fighting fully rehydrated. But cutting down even more muscle mass and rehydrated only 5 lbs is just stupid imo.

Dangerous too. When fat % gets too low, bad and lethal concussions happen.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Conor Benn FAILS a drugs test

Sportsmail can exclusively reveal the 26-year-old was notified he had returned an adverse finding for the banned substance clomifene.

The substance, which is usually used to treat infertility in women but can increase testosterone in men, is prohibited by the World Anti-Doping Agency. It is understood Benn's test was carried out by the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

It is not yet clear whether Benn's situation will trigger a cancellation of this weekend's blockbuster with Eubank Jr, which falls almost 30 years after the second of two iconic fights between their fathers, Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank.

Sources say Eubank Jr still wants the bout to go ahead.

The fight is believed to be worth a six-figure fee to each fighter.

The British Boxing Board of Control, who are overseeing the fight, and Benn's promoter Eddie Hearn have been contacted for comment.

In January, Benn, a welterweight on a rocketing trajectory owing to his perfect 21-0 record, was briefly removed from the WBC world rankings for failing to enrol in their clean-athlete programme.

At the time he said in a statement: 'The World Boxing Council (WBC) have temporarily removed me from their January rankings and have requested in order for me to continue being ranked under the WBC governing body I must officially enrol in the WBC Clean Boxing Program supported by VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association).

'I can confirm I have instructed my team who are now in the process of enrolling me. I wanted to address this personally for the boxing community and my fans.

'It's important to me as a professional athlete to enrol in a clean testing programme and play my part in keeping our sport safe along with having my name stated in top five positions across all governing bodies.'

Benn is currently ranked fifth with the WBC and in the top five with the other three major sanctioning bodies.

Clomifene is listed on both WADA and VADA's prohibited lists under 'hormone and metabolic modulators'.

Benn is moving up almost two weight classes for Saturday's fight against his bigger rival Eubank Jnr.

[Enlightened-One]

Benn taking a fertility drug designed to increase testosterone levels, as a byproduct of increasing his luteinizing hormone levels.

If Benn upsets Eubank Jr, then people will understandably question the legitimacy of his win, due to weight draining his opponent and also consuming PED’s to increase his own testosterone levels.

The fight should be called off.

Imagine if Eubank Jr. suffers a significant injury due to being weight-drained against a PED-using opponent?

Apart from the paydays, this is a lose-lose situation for both fighters.

Neither fighter will receive plaudits for their win (either a bigger fighter beats a much smaller opponent or a drug cheat beats a weight drained opponent).

How can the promoters or the networks justify staging such a sporting spectacle?

[Ruthless-RKO]

BBBofC are saying it's off..

They informed the promoters etc last night.