Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[Boxerbeetle]

Yeah Joshua really has a history of backing out, doesn’t he

Definitely not like Fury, who would never duck a challenge

[maverick23]

The GAD has spoken. He's said it looks like AJ and Hearn are backing out.

Yet neither of them have given a deadline, announced the fight is off the table or announced a fight with someone else.

Unlike Tyson….

[quickeyg]

Joe Gallagher dissed Anthony Joshua said: Who's he beat?

[maverick23]

Joe Gallagher dissed Anthony Joshua said: Who's he beat?

Wlad Klitschko
Joe Parker
Andy Ruiz
Dillian Whyte
Alexander Povetkin
Kubrat Pulev
Carlos Takam
Charles Martin
Dominic Brezeale

Plus he won an Olympic gold and got a World Championship silver medal.

Gallagher should have just checked his Boxrec if he didn’t know.

[The Gratest]

[margaret thatcher]

after 2 years as a pro AJ easily stopped a guy who is still among the top 3 guys wilder's beaten. aj was moved fast from the start and has fought excellent opposition

both times he lost he didnt run and rebuild vs cans, he immediately rematched the guys who beat him too. ppl who act like he's fought no one are usually just bitter that he's been so popular. you see a similar attitude toward pretty much any superstar

[gilgamesh]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

[big lennox]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

[tony1234]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

I always wondered if the McDermott fight was fixed ? Watching that night and couldn't believe Fury got the nod

[maverick23]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

I always wondered if the McDermott fight was fixed ? Watching that night and couldn't believe Fury got the nod

Yeah - I also thought McDermott won the first fight but Fury was a lot better in the rematch and settled it. The first fight is one of those sliding door moments. If McDermott gets the decision, does Fury become the great fighter that he has become? Sometimes a first loss takes something out of a boxer.

[mickey1975]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

I always wondered if the McDermott fight was fixed ? Watching that night and couldn't believe Fury got the nod

So that fight, over 10 years ago, had you wondering if boxing was fixed? Have you watched any boxing before or since?

[mickey1975]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

Oh Lenny.... I can almost smell the desperation from here. Fury having a close one years ago = AJ getting beaten up three times!!!!

[big lennox]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

Oh Lenny.... I can almost smell the desperation from here. Fury having a close one years ago = AJ getting beaten up three times!!!!

[mickey1975]

Wazza has now offered to use a mediator over commercial matters to try get the fight done.
I guess Eddie and AJ just can't get their heads around not being the A side.

[Delta Jay]

after 2 years as a pro AJ easily stopped a guy who is still among the top 3 guys wilder's beaten. aj was moved fast from the start and has fought excellent opposition

both times he lost he didnt run and rebuild vs cans, he immediately rematched the guys who beat him too. ppl who act like he's fought no one are usually just bitter that he's been so popular. you see a similar attitude toward pretty much any superstar

That’s what I’ve been trying to say for years

[mickey1975]

Even number one AJ bum licker Spencer Oliver has said it's Hearn or 258 now...

[tonyevs]

Who is employing Spencer Oliver at the negotiations Mick?

[mickey1975]

Who is employing Spencer Oliver at the negotiations Mick?

I don't know, you're there, aren't you?

[tonyevs]

I surprised you think I'm there too Mick - actually I am as involved in the discussions and negotiations as Spencer Oliver .. so..

[mickey1975]

I surprised you think I'm there too Mick - actually I am as involved in the discussions and negotiations as Spencer Oliver .. so..

No, you've consistently said you've known what's been going on all along

[tonyevs]

Really?

Can you evidence that too?

[big lennox]

I don’t really see the point in Joshua vs Fury in any event. Fury retired, quite rightly. The only fight that makes sense is him v Usyk, and if Usyk won’t do that til next year then he should stay retired. He’s got plenty of money, and way too much to lose.

I don't get this style of negotiations. Fury seems to be in an erratic frame of mind; and Joshua wasn't in a great mental head space after the Uysk rematch either.

[quickeyg]

Joe Gallagher dissed Anthony Joshua said: Who's he beat?

Wlad Klitschko
Joe Parker
Andy Ruiz
Dillian Whyte
Alexander Povetkin
Kubrat Pulev
Carlos Takam
Charles Martin
Dominic Brezeale

Plus he won an Olympic gold and got a World Championship silver medal.

Gallagher should have just checked his Boxrec if he didn’t know.

Paper champion + 3 losses

[brilo33]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

how fury v wilder are bigger than anyone one of aj fights, charles martin please, i would say the fighters he beat like parker and whyte have improved more than him and would beat him now, parker who lost last week would beat aj

[brilo33]

Yeah you can sh*t on AJ for various reasons if you want, but to say his resume is weak is stupid. His record has more big fights, and dangerous opponents on it than Wilder's and Fury's combined at the moment.

It just doesn't have the biggest fights possible which is either Wilder or Fury.

But he's taken on just about everyone else of note in the division.

Basically we have Fury and Wilder who have fought each other 3 times, and done little else of note (Ortiz for Wilder and Wlad for Fury I guess)

And then we have AJ who has fought basically the rest of the Heavyweight division that those 2 guys haven't fought.

Agreed. Fury is also yet to put pen to paper to fight Uysk once, let alone twice. I also recall Fury giving up the British title when David Price was on the rise and knocking everyone out. Also, I think it is wrong for people to go on about Joshua losing. Fury is not undefeated either: in many people's eyes, he lost the first McDermott fight.

did fury lose so what if he did do you think fury would beat mcdermott now, which is the point where in the now , i mean i reckon his dad could of beat him up then too, do u think aj would beat whyte now or parker or ruiz now, who cares about the zeros mean nothing, i dont care aj has lost 3 times or fury has lost once who wins now