Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[Ruthless-RKO]

So Fury called AJ out.

AJ/Hearn accepted, calling Fury’s bluff..

Not Hearn is the one stalling because the Warren’s/Fury are calling their bluff a bluff..

What next?

Don’t really believe anyone.. promoters, boxers, team members etc.

Only god knows what is actually going on.

Joshua agreed the generous terms but has now had the contract for 16 days. The fight is due in 2 months and now Hearn is publicly saying it could take them weeks to sign. Do you not think that someone is stalling?

The fight doesn’t need months build up. Fury and Joshua should already be in some sort of camp imo.

Because they both said they’re fighting in December regardless.

[tonyevs]

Its only part of the story having the contract for 16 days and not signing it.

We don`t know what demands fWank has put into the contract - he has a proven past record to be weary of here.

What we know of Old Fish-eyes it wouldn`t come as a surprise if he is demanding Joshua fights for him for the next 10x fights .. on a basic £7.35p per fight ... it would take weeks to negotiate up from that; but at least Hearn and Joshua could be still trying.

[BigDoofus]

Its only part of the story having the contract for 16 days and not signing it.

We don`t know what demands fWank has put into the contract - he has a proven past record to be weary of here.

What we know of Old Fish-eyes it wouldn`t come as a surprise if he is demanding Joshua fights for him for the next 10x fights .. on a basic £7.35p per fight ... it would take weeks to negotiate up from that; but at least Hearn and Joshua could be still trying.

"It wouldn't come as a surprise"
FW was on talksport on Thursday and said that Joshua's team had not contacted them in 10 days with any "red lines" on the contract. Why do you think that is?

[maverick23]

Its only part of the story having the contract for 16 days and not signing it.

We don`t know what demands fWank has put into the contract - he has a proven past record to be weary of here.

What we know of Old Fish-eyes it wouldn`t come as a surprise if he is demanding Joshua fights for him for the next 10x fights .. on a basic £7.35p per fight ... it would take weeks to negotiate up from that; but at least Hearn and Joshua could be still trying.

"It wouldn't come as a surprise"
FW was on talksport on Thursday and said that Joshua's team had not contacted them in 10 days with any "red lines" on the contract. Why do you think that is?

Eddie said they sent a revised contract back on the Monday after having daily discussions with George Warren about it since receiving the contract. They then received a revised version back on the Wednesday afternoon and we’re going back with a redline on the Thursday/Friday.

During that time we heard Tyson say the fight was off and he was fighting Charr.

[BigDoofus]

The fight doesn’t need months build up. Fury and Joshua should already be in some sort of camp imo.

Because they both said they’re fighting in December regardless.

FW said on talksport on Thursday that the other side weren't returning calls. Even Joshua's mate says his side is deliberately stalling. At what stage will you guys accept it?

[BigDoofus]

Eddie said they sent a revised contract back on the Monday after having daily discussions with George Warren about it since receiving the contract. They then received a revised version back on the Wednesday afternoon and we’re going back with a redline on the Thursday/Friday.

And the following Thursday FW still had not received the redline and Eddie told talksport he was too busy to speak to them.
I know you're Eddie's biggest fan on here, but why do you think they haven't sent back the redlines?

[maverick23]

The fight doesn’t need months build up. Fury and Joshua should already be in some sort of camp imo.

Because they both said they’re fighting in December regardless.

FW said on talksport on Thursday that the other side weren't returning calls. Even Joshua's mate says his side is deliberately stalling. At what stage will you guys accept it?

Eddie said he spoke to George at about midnight on Wednesday night/Thursday morning. Frank was on TalkSPORT on Thursday late morning. Either one of them is lying or we just take that’s a small time frame for not answering a couple of calls.

If by Joshua’s mate you mean Oliver he openly said that he had no clue on the contractual stuff. Johnny Nelson blamed Team Fury for it. He also had no idea on the contractual stuff so I don’t really care what either of them think because they’re not close enough to it.

[maverick23]

Eddie said they sent a revised contract back on the Monday after having daily discussions with George Warren about it since receiving the contract. They then received a revised version back on the Wednesday afternoon and we’re going back with a redline on the Thursday/Friday.

And the following Thursday FW still had not received the redline and Eddie told talksport he was too busy to speak to them.
I know you're Eddie's biggest fan on here, but why do you think they haven't sent back the redlines?

The contract was returned to Queensbury on Monday of this week and came back to Matchroom on Wednesday afternoon. Frank was on TalkSPORT the following morning.

Eddie said the redline would be sent back the following day (the Thursday) or the the Friday. No idea if it has been returned.

The fact that there’s now a dispute over who has final say on commercial stuff means they’re still negotiating the finer points - just like you’d expect from a deal this size.

[BigDoofus]

The contract was returned to Queensbury on Monday of this week and came back to Matchroom on Wednesday afternoon. Frank was on TalkSPORT the following morning.

Eddie said the redline would be sent back the following day (the Thursday) or the the Friday. No idea if it has been returned.

The fact that there’s now a dispute over who has final say on commercial stuff means they’re still negotiating the finer points - just like you’d expect from a deal this size.

According to FW the redlines would be sent back by Wednesday. They hadn't and Matchroom weren't returning calls:

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1206 ... hua-fight/

[maverick23]

The contract was returned to Queensbury on Monday of this week and came back to Matchroom on Wednesday afternoon. Frank was on TalkSPORT the following morning.

Eddie said the redline would be sent back the following day (the Thursday) or the the Friday. No idea if it has been returned.

The fact that there’s now a dispute over who has final say on commercial stuff means they’re still negotiating the finer points - just like you’d expect from a deal this size.

According to FW the redlines would be sent back by Wednesday. They hadn't and Matchroom weren't returning calls:

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1206 ... hua-fight/

So Frank’s not happy because the comments weren’t sent back on the same day as team Joshua received the latest contract in the afternoon?

Never going to happen given the amount of people involved.

Eddie said he spoke to George later on the Wednesday. If he isn’t lying then it’s hardly radio silence. He was complaining on TalkSPORT that they hadn’t received the redlines despite team AJ having that version of the contract for less than 24 hours.

[Boxerbeetle]

As if some people are believing anything FW and Fury say No wonder scammers do so well

[mickey1975]

So, why isn't the Charr fight announced? We are in the third week of AJ having the contract. Isn't it a bit far fetched to think they are all going to all this trouble to look good? The vast majority of the public see AJ as a straightforward fight anyway so won't be overly impressed if he does beat him.

[BigDoofus]

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1208 ... 0-million/

[Ruthless-RKO]

So, why isn't the Charr fight announced? We are in the third week of AJ having the contract. Isn't it a bit far fetched to think they are all going to all this trouble to look good? The vast majority of the public see AJ as a straightforward fight anyway so won't be overly impressed if he does beat him.

Why isn’t the fight announced?

[maverick23]

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1208 ... 0-million/

John also said yesterday that he’d insured his balls for £10m.

[maverick23]

So, why isn't the Charr fight announced? We are in the third week of AJ having the contract. Isn't it a bit far fetched to think they are all going to all this trouble to look good? The vast majority of the public see AJ as a straightforward fight anyway so won't be overly impressed if he does beat him.

Hopefully it’s because they’re still negotiating the AJ fight. Deals worth this much take time. Who knows though as it was only a couple of days ago where Tyson said he’d accepted Charr’s challenge.

[bripez]

As if some people are believing anything FW and Fury say No wonder scammers do so well

I know - a few posters on this thread could be receiving emails from an African King looking for a bank account to deposit £100 million any day now

[maverick23]

As if some people are believing anything FW and Fury say No wonder scammers do so well

I know - a few posters on this thread could be receiving emails from an African King looking for a bank account to deposit £100 million any day now

Frank’s the only person I’ve heard of to be sued and taken to court by his own lawyers.

[Ruthless-RKO]

It’s officially OVERA FOR AJ.

[mickey1975]

It’s officially OVERA FOR AJ.

Isn't that old?

[Ruthless-RKO]

It’s officially OVERA FOR AJ.

Isn't that old?

Sky just posted it today..

But he says Monday .. which is today.. I don't know.

Lost count..

[mickey1975]

It's not 5pm. Hearn saying it's off anyway.

[big lennox]

[Ruthless-RKO]

Matchroom Boxing chief, Hearn, has claimed that as far as he is concerned the fight will not be going ahead, and claimed the contract problems didn't go from their side.

"Rival promoter blames rival promoter for fight not happening, shock horror," Hearn told the Matchroom YouTube channel when asked about Bob Arum claiming he didn't want the fight.

"People surely aren’t thick enough to see Tyson Fury has called two deadlines on this fight and the fight has passed, in Tyson Fury’s deadlines.

"The Monday deadline, which came from nowhere, and we sent our final version of the contract back…we sent our final draft of the contract back to sign. Not we’re not getting back to anyone.

"…Then we get another one on Wednesday, ‘the fight is off unless you sign on Wednesday,’ I said ‘it’s impossible.’

"That deadline passed, I've not heard back from allegedly. So as far as we’re concerned the fight is off."

Hearn did give some hope by saying that they would still be willing to discuss the fight, and added that he had nothing bad to say about Queensbury Promotions.

He once again reiterated that the problems lay with the deadline and the fact they had been told multiple times that they'd missed the deadline, as had the whole world.

[big lennox]

Sounds like Furys team have offered Chisora a contract.

As entertaining as Fury can be, I think I have grown a bit tired of his nonsense now. I've always had the upmost respect for him as a boxer, but I can't shake the feeling that he is not keen for the real tests in his division. I think, for most people, there is a bit of an asterisk against his record.

Equally, you can't force someone to take on the best, if they/their team, don't fancy it.