Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua - 2020 OLD thread

[jamesmcdonnell]

Fury was retired ffs. He wanted half a billion to fight Usyk. Then he wanted to fight Usyk while he was injured. Now he needs to fight in December and anyone who wants to read or change the contract is ducking him.

He can’t wait till Usyks fit to fight? He just so so needs to fight Charr/Chisora in December. Give me a break.

It’s a joke. He’s a joke.

I concur - he's full of shite.

[joshj909]

Fury was retired ffs. He wanted half a billion to fight Usyk. Then he wanted to fight Usyk while he was injured. Now he needs to fight in December and anyone who wants to read or change the contract is ducking him.

He can’t wait till Usyks fit to fight? He just so so needs to fight Charr/Chisora in December. Give me a break.

It’s a joke. He’s a joke.

If he was to say he would fight Joyce in December instead of AJ, you know, the top contender coming off a big win who shares a promoter and is due a title shot, I think everyone would be fine with that. Maybe he'd even get away with Ruiz. Chisora and Charr are just ridiculous opponents that don't stand a hope in hell and he knows it.

[big lennox]

Fury was retired ffs. He wanted half a billion to fight Usyk. Then he wanted to fight Usyk while he was injured. Now he needs to fight in December and anyone who wants to read or change the contract is ducking him.

He can’t wait till Usyks fit to fight? He just so so needs to fight Charr/Chisora in December. Give me a break.

It’s a joke. He’s a joke.

I concur - he's full of shite.

I echo those thoughts. I feel a bit sorry for Hearn and Joshua being dragged into Fury 's one man show. Hearn is right when he says it's all becominb a bit boring.

It will be interesting to see the viewing figures and crowd attendance for Fury's next fight.

[Wee Tommy]

I mean the man can fight. He’s tough and strong, he’s fit as a fiddle. I’m not saying he can’t beat anyone he fights. He can.

He’s scared of Usyk tho. I’ve seen it plenty with big huge guys when they can’t intimidate a smaller guy. It gets to them big time.

I’d be happy with Joyce, Ortiz, AJ etc.

But why can’t he wait on Usyk…

He’s back on the sauce and the marching powder and needs to get in the ring to stay semi sane I guess.

[DrDuke]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

[maverick23]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

[DrDuke]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

People seem to get frustrated because of Fury only, although he isn't the only one to have failing negotiations and delays. A lot seem to be pro-Usyk here, but it was Usyk who caused the delay of his rematch vs Joshua and it's him again, who called out a fighter and simultaneously announced a break from competing.

[joshj909]

So they just decided not to continue because the communication was lacking? How about you reach out yourselves if you wanted it that badly? Perhaps stop giving them impossible deadlines? Perhaps stop sending contracts for other fights?

Well atleast Fury Vs Charr will sell one ticket at the Principality. Mickey will be there, front row for the biggest name in boxing.

[1103924]

Fury was retired ffs. He wanted half a billion to fight Usyk. Then he wanted to fight Usyk while he was injured. Now he needs to fight in December and anyone who wants to read or change the contract is ducking him.

He can’t wait till Usyks fit to fight? He just so so needs to fight Charr/Chisora in December. Give me a break.

It’s a joke. He’s a joke.

I concur - he's full of shite.

I don't mean this in a nasty way, but I genuinely think Fury is off his bi-polar meds. His behavior on recent videos and at the Joyce fight are a concern. If I was Fury's doctor I would be concerned.

[maverick23]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

People seem to get frustrated because of Fury only, although he isn't the only one to have failing negotiations and delays. A lot seem to be pro-Usyk here, but it was Usyk who caused the delay of his rematch vs Joshua and it's him again, who called out a fighter and simultaneously announced a break from competing.

People are frustrated with Fury with the AJ talks because he’s the one giving random deadlines, coming out saying he’s fighting Manuel Charr and sending Del Boy contracts. Most people also realise that a deal with AJ won’t be done super quickly because of AJ’s contractual commitments.

Usyk had fair reason for the AJ rematch to be delayed. He also hasn’t announced a break. He said he wouldn’t be fight at the end of the year and would be looking at more like February. Given what’s happening in his home country at the moment I think most reasonable people think that makes sense (6 months between fights).

Yet we get more of Fury calling him a middleweight, pussy, dosser.

[DrDuke]

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

People seem to get frustrated because of Fury only, although he isn't the only one to have failing negotiations and delays. A lot seem to be pro-Usyk here, but it was Usyk who caused the delay of his rematch vs Joshua and it's him again, who called out a fighter and simultaneously announced a break from competing.

People are frustrated with Fury with the AJ talks because he’s the one giving random deadlines, coming out saying he’s fighting Manuel Charr and sending Del Boy contracts. Most people also realise that a deal with AJ won’t be done super quickly because of AJ’s contractual commitments.

Usyk had fair reason for the AJ rematch to be delayed. He also hasn’t announced a break. He said he wouldn’t be fight at the end of the year and would be looking at more like February. Given what’s happening in his home country at the moment I think most reasonable people think that makes sense (6 months between fights).

Yet we get more of Fury calling him a middleweight, pussy, dosser.

Fury has been having fun in similar way nearly all his career. As if everybody has just tuned in.

[maverick23]

People seem to get frustrated because of Fury only, although he isn't the only one to have failing negotiations and delays. A lot seem to be pro-Usyk here, but it was Usyk who caused the delay of his rematch vs Joshua and it's him again, who called out a fighter and simultaneously announced a break from competing.

People are frustrated with Fury with the AJ talks because he’s the one giving random deadlines, coming out saying he’s fighting Manuel Charr and sending Del Boy contracts. Most people also realise that a deal with AJ won’t be done super quickly because of AJ’s contractual commitments.

Usyk had fair reason for the AJ rematch to be delayed. He also hasn’t announced a break. He said he wouldn’t be fight at the end of the year and would be looking at more like February. Given what’s happening in his home country at the moment I think most reasonable people think that makes sense (6 months between fights).

Yet we get more of Fury calling him a middleweight, pussy, dosser.

Fury has been having fun in similar way nearly all his career. As if everybody has just tuned in.

Not quite. Saying you’re fighting someone else and that deadlines have passed aren’t going to help in getting a deal done for the biggest fight in U.K. boxing history.

[DrDuke]

People are frustrated with Fury with the AJ talks because he’s the one giving random deadlines, coming out saying he’s fighting Manuel Charr and sending Del Boy contracts. Most people also realise that a deal with AJ won’t be done super quickly because of AJ’s contractual commitments.

Usyk had fair reason for the AJ rematch to be delayed. He also hasn’t announced a break. He said he wouldn’t be fight at the end of the year and would be looking at more like February. Given what’s happening in his home country at the moment I think most reasonable people think that makes sense (6 months between fights).

Yet we get more of Fury calling him a middleweight, pussy, dosser.

Fury has been having fun in similar way nearly all his career. As if everybody has just tuned in.

Not quite. Saying you’re fighting someone else and that deadlines have passed aren’t going to help in getting a deal done for the biggest fight in U.K. boxing history.

I don't think that reflects the true status of negotiations (anyway, this fight won't happen).

[Boxerbeetle]

It’s the David Price situation all over again from Fury, talks big game then ducks it

[maverick23]

Fury has been having fun in similar way nearly all his career. As if everybody has just tuned in.

Not quite. Saying you’re fighting someone else and that deadlines have passed aren’t going to help in getting a deal done for the biggest fight in U.K. boxing history.

I don't think that reflects the true status of negotiations (anyway, this fight won't happen).

So when one of the principals behind the fight gives public deadlines for the fight to be signed and then announces it’s past the deadline and he’s fighting someone else (and the day after the second deadline has a contract sent to another fighter managed by AJ), you don’t think that has any impact on negotiations?

[DrDuke]

Not quite. Saying you’re fighting someone else and that deadlines have passed aren’t going to help in getting a deal done for the biggest fight in U.K. boxing history.

I don't think that reflects the true status of negotiations (anyway, this fight won't happen).

So when one of the principals behind the fight gives public deadlines for the fight to be signed and then announces it’s past the deadline and he’s fighting someone else (and the day after the second deadline has a contract sent to another fighter managed by AJ), you don’t think that has any impact on negotiations?

I don't know, but something tells me Fury's public promotion often goes different ways with the things behind the scene.

[big lennox]

I just think Fury is a canny operator and has no intention of boxing someone world class.

I suspect he will finish his career with the unenviable reputation of being a bottle job.

[maverick23]

I don't think that reflects the true status of negotiations (anyway, this fight won't happen).

So when one of the principals behind the fight gives public deadlines for the fight to be signed and then announces it’s past the deadline and he’s fighting someone else (and the day after the second deadline has a contract sent to another fighter managed by AJ), you don’t think that has any impact on negotiations?

I don't know, but something tells me Fury's public promotion often goes different ways with the things behind the scene.

It will almost certainly impact things.

I’d also imagine Tyson’s a nightmare behind the scenes with the Frank and George. I’d be surprised if he’s not telling them to stop negotiating once it goes past his arbitrary deadlines.

His last deadline for the AJ to be signed was Thursday. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Chisora apparently received a contract on the Friday.

[big lennox]

I think Joshua will be the happier fighter in retirement. He will know that he took on the best of his era, and tried to fight everyone. Fury, by contrast, will know that he ducked Price, Klitschko rematch, Uysk, Joyce, Ruiz and Joshua.

But he did manage to beat Chisora three times.

[maverick23]

I think Joshua will be the happier fighter in retirement. He will know that he took on the best of his era, and tried to fight everyone. Fury, by contrast, will know that he ducked Price, Klitschko rematch, Uysk, Joyce, Ruiz and Joshua.

But he did manage to beat Chisora three times.

I don’t think so. Fury beat the long reigning champ Wlad in Germany and then smashed Wilder up twice in the US and probably should have got the nod in their first fight. The Whyte win was good too. The rest not so much.

The average quality of AJ’s opponent’s is better but if we’re rating the best wins for either fighter then I’d put Fury ahead. Just a shame he’s not seemingly building on it with his likely December opponent.

[1103924]

It’s the David Price situation all over again from Fury, talks big game then ducks it

Can Mickey not remember Fury ducking Pricey? Or does he give Fury a pass?

[Wee Tommy]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.

Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.

[jamesmcdonnell]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.

Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.

It's not a wager I'd make, I've got to make Tyson favourite,because of his reach and size advantage, and the fact he can box and move. I'd not be shocked at all if Usyk won however.

[mickey1975]

It looks like a lot of butts will explode after Fury beats Usyk. This bout is more threatening then the potential nuclear apocalypse.

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.

Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.

Why not get better than 2-1?

[Wee Tommy]

I don’t think so.

I’d imagine most people, including me, thinks he beats Usyk. I think if he’s mentally right then he beats everyone.

People are just frustrated with his constant nonsense now. He could have fought Usyk when he fought Whyte but only if he could have fight before it so it didn’t happen. He retires. Calls out anyone from strong men, to top boxers, to wrestlers, to undeserving boxers, gives unrealistic deadlines to AJ where they seemed to be having serious negotiations.

I love Tyson Fury as a boxer. Seen him 10 or so times live including when he beat Wlad but I’m completely bored of his rubbish now and just wish he fights a proper opponent rather than the Chisora/Charr nonsense.

I know a lot more people who think Usyk wins rather than Tyson.

Anyone wants to make a large bet I’m happy to put money where my mouth is.

Why not get better than 2-1?

You want a bet Mick? If so send me your wickr username and we can talk.