"An utterly tarnished sham" - Donald McRae

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"An utterly tarnished sham" - Donald McRae

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Donald McRae has long been one of the best writers in our sport. His summing up of Conor Benn and Eddie Hearn is well worth reading and sharing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... eubank-jnr
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hasn't been a good look for ed at all, very cringey
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A pretty fair article. Gareth’s YouTube clip even gets a mention. 👍

Eddie’s in a tough spot I think. Ethically the fight should be off although I get why they’d be annoyed about the BBBC calling it off 3 days before the fight given they’ve apparently known about it for a couple of weeks.

On the other hand it’s probably a £10m fight and it’s the first fight that’s given DAZN publicity and will probably have a substantial multiplier effect on the subscriber numbers. That shouldn’t matter when it comes to whether or not a fight will happen but I’m not surprised they’re looking for ways to allow the fight.

Obviously hindsight’s great but I actually think the board should have been stronger here. When they first heard about it they should have told them the fight’s off unless there’s a negative B sample. I fail to see why they couldn’t have had it tested in the last 2 weeks.
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maverick23 wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 01:53 A pretty fair article. Gareth’s YouTube clip even gets a mention. 👍

Eddie’s in a tough spot I think. Ethically the fight should be off although I get why they’d be annoyed about the BBBC calling it off 3 days before the fight given they’ve apparently known about it for a couple of weeks.

On the other hand it’s probably a £10m fight and it’s the first fight that’s given DAZN publicity and will probably have a substantial multiplier effect on the subscriber numbers. That shouldn’t matter when it comes to whether or not a fight will happen but I’m not surprised they’re looking for ways to allow the fight.

Obviously hindsight’s great but I actually think the board should have been stronger here. When they first heard about it they should have told them the fight’s off unless there’s a negative B sample. I fail to see why they couldn’t have had it tested in the last 2 weeks.
Did the board actually know all along though?
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 02:47
maverick23 wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 01:53 A pretty fair article. Gareth’s YouTube clip even gets a mention. 👍

Eddie’s in a tough spot I think. Ethically the fight should be off although I get why they’d be annoyed about the BBBC calling it off 3 days before the fight given they’ve apparently known about it for a couple of weeks.

On the other hand it’s probably a £10m fight and it’s the first fight that’s given DAZN publicity and will probably have a substantial multiplier effect on the subscriber numbers. That shouldn’t matter when it comes to whether or not a fight will happen but I’m not surprised they’re looking for ways to allow the fight.

Obviously hindsight’s great but I actually think the board should have been stronger here. When they first heard about it they should have told them the fight’s off unless there’s a negative B sample. I fail to see why they couldn’t have had it tested in the last 2 weeks.
Did the board actually know all along though?
Eddie and Kalle both said that the board find out when they did which was a couple of weeks ago. I’d be surprised if they’re going to blatantly lie about something like that.

I guess if it hadn’t been reported yesterday then the board would have swept it under the rug. 🤷‍♂️
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maverick23 wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 02:50
Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 02:47
maverick23 wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 01:53 A pretty fair article. Gareth’s YouTube clip even gets a mention. 👍

Eddie’s in a tough spot I think. Ethically the fight should be off although I get why they’d be annoyed about the BBBC calling it off 3 days before the fight given they’ve apparently known about it for a couple of weeks.

On the other hand it’s probably a £10m fight and it’s the first fight that’s given DAZN publicity and will probably have a substantial multiplier effect on the subscriber numbers. That shouldn’t matter when it comes to whether or not a fight will happen but I’m not surprised they’re looking for ways to allow the fight.

Obviously hindsight’s great but I actually think the board should have been stronger here. When they first heard about it they should have told them the fight’s off unless there’s a negative B sample. I fail to see why they couldn’t have had it tested in the last 2 weeks.
Did the board actually know all along though?
Eddie and Kalle both said that the board find out when they did which was a couple of weeks ago. I’d be surprised if they’re going to blatantly lie about something like that.

I guess if it hadn’t been reported yesterday then the board would have swept it under the rug. 🤷‍♂️
That's very shady too, if it's that's the case
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If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

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https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
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jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 01:15 Donald McRae has long been one of the best writers in our sport. His summing up of Conor Benn and Eddie Hearn is well worth reading and sharing.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... eubank-jnr
ha, funny enough a lad at work who likes boxing was saying in frustration how none of the tv or youtube lackeys was asking EH the tough questions, I said you won't see that from the tv lot but i suppose there may be a guardian journalist who calls it what it is......
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jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 03:23 If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

Image

https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
that's the photo they posted to publicise him *signing up* for testing? :lol: :lol: :lol: that's fking golden
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Donald has filed an updated piece.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... -wrangling

Benn, like Lance Armstrong used to do, claiming he is a clean athlete (my words not Donald's). Eubanks is straight shooting: “Conor got caught using an illegal substance so the fight is off. Can’t believe it,”
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jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 03:23 If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

Image

https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
Really not the right physique for boxing that, those arms are ridiculous, as are the shoulders.
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Donald is the best living writer of the sport we all love.

Completely incapable of being corrupted, lives by his integrity.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 14:28
jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 03:23 If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

Image

https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
Really not the right physique for boxing that, those arms are ridiculous, as are the shoulders.
It's shopped
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 14:28
jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 03:23 If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

Image

https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
Really not the right physique for boxing that, those arms are ridiculous, as are the shoulders.
It's shopped
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Loynesy wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 14:39 Donald is the best living writer of the sport we all love.

Completely incapable of being corrupted, lives by his integrity.
Absolutely is. Seen it all, not just in boxing.
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samwbr wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 16:47
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 14:28
jimmystone wrote: 06 Oct 2022, 03:23 If they do get the fight on the viewing figures will be so much better than they would have been without this fiasco.

Have DAZN made a statement yet or are they quietly letting it all unfold?


On a side note, I was looking at the VADA website earlier. The photo of AJ when he signed up to their clean programme is good. I forgot how jacked he was back then.

Image

https://vada-testing.org/2022/09/08/anthony-joshua-2/
Really not the right physique for boxing that, those arms are ridiculous, as are the shoulders.
It's shopped
Why would vada have a photoshopped photo of AJ?
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