BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Wilder vs. Helenius / Sanchez vs. Negron

[CMCanavessi]

If Helenius gets dropped out, who gets in?

[gregregegg]

If Helenius gets dropped out, who gets in?

Zhang or makhmadov probably. Or leave 15th vacant so when fury slots back in it’s back to 15.

[Cyclops]

If Helenius gets dropped out, who gets in?

Fury.

[margaret thatcher]

or dubstep, his loss to joyce looks retrospectively not bad at all. did better than parker who we have #6 even still

[Cyclops]

or dubstep, his loss to joyce looks retrospectively not bad at all. did better than parker who we have #6 even still

Not a bad shout.

[margaret thatcher]

of course if chizz-fury is happening, fury will be back soon anyway

[Cyclops]

of course if chizz-fury is happening, fury will be back soon anyway

And Chisora will be exiting. He shouldn't be in our top 10 at least. That's a mark against us in my opinion, having him so high.

[gregregegg]

I think we Should do a complete revote end of the year. Periodically I think the full revote is nessasary.

[joshj909]

I think we Should do a complete revote end of the year. Periodically I think the full revote is nessasary.

I agree. I think inactivity and a retrospective view on results may change a few guys who are clinging on to a position.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think we Should do a complete revote end of the year. Periodically I think the full revote is nessasary.

I agree. I think inactivity and a retrospective view on results may change a few guys who are clinging on to a position.

Everyone in the top 15 has at least fought once this year.

The guys outside the top 15 aren’t doing much themselves to even get them in the top 15. We voted after Mak-Takam and we didn’t vote him in.

[Ruthless-RKO]

If Helenius gets dropped out, who gets in?

Fury.

Yeh, his next fight announcement is imminent.

Tottenham Hotspur Stadium is likely the venue.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Whether we keep Helenius in or out, based on what he said to Wilder, he’s more or less announced his retirement.

We just need someone to confirm it.

So that would pull him out of the rankings automatically.

[Ruthless-RKO]

surprised at all the people keeping helly in, not even dropping him to 15! i thought he was weak top 15 to start and he lost about as poorly as could be, pretty much every wilder challenger has done better

Majority have voted him out tho.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Someone has forgot to vote on Helenius.

We have uneven votes.

[joshj909]

I think we Should do a complete revote end of the year. Periodically I think the full revote is nessasary.

I agree. I think inactivity and a retrospective view on results may change a few guys who are clinging on to a position.

Everyone in the top 15 has at least fought once this year.

The guys outside the top 15 aren’t doing much themselves to even get them in the top 15. We voted after Mak-Takam and we didn’t vote him in.

Looking at it as a whole can definitely give people a different perspective. People also can't vote them out if they beat a journeyman if they can only move up from a win.

[Ruthless-RKO]

I agree. I think inactivity and a retrospective view on results may change a few guys who are clinging on to a position.

Everyone in the top 15 has at least fought once this year.

The guys outside the top 15 aren’t doing much themselves to even get them in the top 15. We voted after Mak-Takam and we didn’t vote him in.

Looking at it as a whole can definitely give people a different perspective. People also can't vote them out if they beat a journeyman if they can only move up from a win.

Then we can vote on individuals?

The way I see it, Wallin has til Feb to announce a decent fight.

This year he has fought Soko and Booker.

That’s just not good enough.

I say Feb because that’s when he fought Soko.

[tiny_acres]

Someone has forgot to vote on Helenius.

We have uneven votes.

That was me
I fvcked up sorry

[tiny_acres]

Someone has forgot to vote on Helenius.

We have uneven votes.

I'd put Helenius at 15

[Ruthless-RKO]

Someone has forgot to vote on Helenius.

We have uneven votes.

I'd put Helenius at 15

You should be able to put it in

[Finkel]

Helenius out. If he was serious about one final run at a title, he would have continued down the WBA route. Instead, he was there to lose last night. And lost badly.

Wilder stays at 3, that fight did nothing for me. I'd be happier to vote him to #2 if it had been Ruiz who he beat last night

[Ruthless-RKO]

As it stands, Wilder is on his way to overtaking AJ..

Helenius is on his way out.

[margaret thatcher]

As it stands, Wilder is on his way to overtaking AJ..

Helenius is on his way out.

there are 12 votes for wilder to stay at 3 or go down to 4

11 for him to go to 2

surely that would keep him where he is?

[Ruthless-RKO]

As it stands, Wilder is on his way to overtaking AJ..

Helenius is on his way out.

there are 12 votes for wilder to stay at 3 or go down to 4

11 for him to go to 2

surely that would keep him where he is?

There has been more votes for #4 since then

[Heretic]

This fight showed us very little that we did not know already.

Helenius is slow and open. Wilder has Insane power.

Helenius would still be very good win for anyone looking to be ranked in top 15. I say keep him in. Not like other boxers have done anything to get ranked lately.

I would still pick healthy Helenius to beat Whyte for example.

[Ruthless-RKO]

New poll is up..

Where does Sanchez go?

My vote: #10.