Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford | Showtime PPV - July 29, 2023

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 29 Jul 2023, 15:29

Spence - Decision
32
23%
Spence - T/KO
12
9%
DRAW
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6%
Crawford - T/KO
37
27%
Crawford - Decision
48
35%
 
Total votes: 137

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If it's true that Floyd is a silent partner or part owner of PBC, then I guess all PBC guys work for him in a sense.
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Crawford On Spence Clash: I Feel Like This Is The Biggest Fight Of The Decade!

“Well, this is a big fight for not only myself but for him too,” said Crawford during an interview with Hudrico Live. “I feel like this is the biggest fight of the decade. You got two American fighters thats undefeated, that’s considered top five in the pound-for-pound list. Both in they prime, what more can you ask for?”

“Hopefully soon, hopefully soon.”
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With the continued delays, assume the step aside monies to Spence’s mandatories continues to rise ? It’s their careers that are being stalled too ….
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford | PBC PPV - December 2022?

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I hope one of them slips on a banana peel and the fight is never made.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 17 Oct 2022, 18:09 I hope one of them slips on a banana peel and the fight is never made.
Same!
I just feel like being d*cked around for a few years.
They don't deserve our hard earned money for any PPV.
Spoiled little princesses, may they get stripped of their titles and age overnight :-P
Marinate my balls!
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Re: Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford | PBC PPV - December 2022?

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Growing Concern On Spence's Side That Crawford's Team Isn't Committed To Fight

When Errol Spence Jr.’s representative sent back another revised contract to Terence Crawford’s attorney early this month, those working on Spence’s behalf were optimistic that it would lead to the consummation of a deal for the unbeaten welterweight champions to finally fight at some point early in 2023.

The most recent three changes Crawford’s attorney requested, none of which were considered major deal points, were made. He hasn’t responded, however, to Spence’s representative in the two weeks since he was sent the revised contract.

Boxing Scene has learned that the recent silence from the lawyer negotiating on Crawford’s behalf has caused growing concern on Spence’s side that Crawford’s team isn’t committed to completing a deal for what would be the most meaningful non-heavyweight fight in boxing. Neither side has set a deadline by which negotiations need to result in a completed deal, but BS.com has been informed that Spence’s handlers believe they have made all of the changes Crawford’s attorney has requested and are perplexed as to why he hasn’t gotten back to them.

Spence has his own promotional company, Man Down Promotions, but he works with Premier Boxing Champions founder Al Haymon, his longtime adviser. Crawford was promoted by Bob Arum’s Top Rank Inc. for most of his career, but he is a promotional free agent because his contract with Arum’s company expired after his 10th-round stoppage of former IBF/WBC champ Shawn Porter last November 20 at Mandalay Bay Resort And Casino’s Michelob ULTRA Arena in Las Vegas.

If Crawford, the WBO 147-pound champion, and Spence, who owns the IBF, WBA and WBC welterweight titles, come to an agreement, the rivals will likely meet in a 12-round pay-per-view main event on an undetermined date in February at a venue to be chosen in Las Vegas.

Crawford, 35, and Spence, 32, are commonly considered two of the top five fighters, pound-for-pound, in boxing. They have publicly expressed their desire to fight each other next, but details of their prolonged negotiations have mostly remained very private over the past few months.

Factions of frustrated fans have expressed doubt about Crawford-Spence materializing because negotiations have taken so long, but Spence has conveyed confidence on social media and elsewhere. Neither Crawford nor Spence have publicly discussed specifics related to their negotiations, although Crawford hasn’t given any indication that he wants to fight anyone other than Spence next.

Initially, November 19 was widely reported as the targeted date for their bout. Potential dates early in 2023 became more realistic options once the two sides failed to complete a deal last month, though, because there wouldn’t have been enough time to properly promote a pay-per-view event of that magnitude prior to November 19.

Crawford (38-0, 29 KOs), of Omaha, Nebraska, has not fought in the 11 months that have passed since the three-division champion stopped Porter in what was widely viewed as one of the best performances of his career. Spence (28-0, 22 KOs), of DeSoto, Texas, stopped former WBA champ Yordenis Ugas (27-5, 12 KOs) in the 10th round of his most recent bout, a unification fight that took place April 16 at the Dallas Cowboys’ AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.
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does any1 still think this fight will ever happen ?
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It has a better chance of happening than Mayweather vs Pacquiao 2, an equal chance of happening as Fury vs Usyk. :OhYes:
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If we're discussing a video game version of a Spence Jr.-Crawford bout, then I'd have to pick the more experienced gamer, rather than the fighter chosen at the character selection screen.

Because let's face it, we're more likely to see this fight happen in video games than in reality.
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dickbelden wrote: 20 Oct 2022, 11:00 does any1 still think this fight will ever happen ?
It WILL happen, mark my words. Everyone is frustrated because the negotiate privately, not on social media. When both guys want it, it will happen. Well, at least one of them wants it.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/10/er ... -november/
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How hard is to negotiate this?


60/40 to the winner
Automatic rematch option for loser

Go.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 20 Oct 2022, 21:51 How hard is to negotiate this?


60/40 to the winner
Automatic rematch option for loser

Go.
for all the bravado we see, boxers seem very hesistant to do winner takes more contracts. makes you wonder how confident they or their team really are
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Crawford said he was gonna fight this year. So he’s signed to fight Avanesyan on Dec 10.
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Looking at Feb 4 now.. if I was Spence, I’d get a fight in early Dec like Bud has.
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Crawford: Spence Didn’t Want The Fight As Bad As I Did; I Agreed To All Of Their Bullsh!t

“I’m excited about this opportunity,” Crawford told ESPN.com. “I was really looking forward to the Errol Spence fight. I started communicating with Al Haymon and PBC back in June. And unfortunately, they represent a fighter in Errol Spence who didn’t want the fight as bad as I did.”

“I agreed to all of their bullsh!t and they’ve been dragging their ass for months,” Crawford said. “Spence was nowhere to be found while I was trying to make the deal. I explained to Al Haymon and Errol that I was going to fight before the end of the year. … David Avanesyan is a very tough task. He’s knocked out his last six opponents and this guy is dangerous. Once I’m successful against Avanesyan, my plan is still the same – whoop Errol Spence’s ass.”

Spence Reacts To Crawford-Avanesyan: Everyone Can Now See Who Was The Holdup!

"I don't know who [Avanesyan] is," Spence told the Dallas Morning News on Thursday night soon after Crawford had told ESPN a fight with the Texan was no longer in the cards.

"I've done everything that I said I was going to do and I'll fight him next and we'll see who is holding the fight up. Everybody sees now who is holding the fight up. He had this [fight against Avanesyan] I guess in his back pocket."

"I'm excited about this opportunity," Crawford told ESPN. "I was really looking forward to the Errol Spence fight. I started communicating with [boxing manager] Al Haymon and PBC back in June. And unfortunately, they represent a fighter in Errol Spence who didn't want the fight as bad as I did.

"I agreed to all of their [B.S.] and they've been dragging their ass for months. Spence was nowhere to be found while I was trying to make the deal. I explained to Al Haymon and Errol that I was going to fight before the end of the year. ... David Avanesyan is a very tough task. He's knocked out his last six opponents and this guy is dangerous. Once I'm successful against Avanesyan, my plan is still the same: Whoop Errol Spence's ass."

"I got to talk to my manager but I already told them I'm at this weight too long. I might be moving up I don't know. I might be moving up,” said Spence.

He wrote on Twitter: “[Crawford] been stalling for months I could’ve fought in November … Been fighting at this weight for over a decade this sh!t ain’t easy or fun.”
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It appears their strategy is to blame each other but Crawford signing this other fight puts and end to it and I expect Crawford will receive heaps of criticism for it. Honestly Spence should move up if that is what his body is demanding, adjust to the weight and try to lure smaller 'Bud' up to his weight for it.
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The Asleep Lamps wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 08:00 It appears their strategy is to blame each other but Crawford signing this other fight puts and end to it and I expect Crawford will receive heaps of criticism for it. Honestly Spence should move up if that is what his body is demanding, adjust to the weight and try to lure smaller 'Bud' up to his weight for it.
They still looking at the fight, but they keep pushing the date back..

That's probably why TC has took a fight in the meantime.
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F!CK Crawford, Spence, their teams and managers
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Cowards gonna be cowards. I'm sorry I've ever wasted a moment of my life watching either one of these jokes.

They don't belong in Professional Sports. I'll never watch either one of these guys box again, and I've lost all respect for them as Boxers.
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To think it's dragged on longer than May-Pac.. :roll:
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 21 Oct 2022, 12:59 To think it's dragged on longer than May-Pac.. :roll:
And never was even half as important to begin with. That's where they've really f*cked up. They've severely overestimated how much they think the public even cares about this fight to begin with.

Hardcore Boxing fans care about it. Casual sports fan care only because it gets brought up so much by hardcore Boxing fans.

The only time I've ever heard people in general talk about Crawford and Spence was because they was gonna fight each other.

Since they don't wanna fight. They'll fade from the Public's thoughts, and become increasingly irrelevant which is what they both deserve.
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Wondering if Spence will come with similar trash fight, something like Jamal James LOL
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