Yeah all seems to have gone quiet. I can see it all getting swept under the carpet.
No chance it’ll be swept under the carpet - it blew up too much for it to be. There will be legal stuff ongoing in the background for weeks/months before something is announced.
That’s what I thought at first but the longer this goes on I can see it happening. A couple of weeks is a long time with news, let alone a few months
Not much can happen in a couple of weeks.
There will be all-sorts of lawyers and experts involved and none of them will be rushing to get things sorted.
Spud wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 12:36
I see and hear Frank Smith and TalkSports Simon Jordan having a war of words now and for once I agree with Jordan..
Smith giving text book answers which in my opinion amounts to a cover up.
I said before Benn would get off on a legal technicality but when it happens Benn will expect an apology from us all.
Theres one fundamental point that keeps me fprming an opinion that Benn should be BANNED and that is ALLEGEDLY traces of a drug were gound in sample A … regardless of how minimal those traces are how the f*ck did they find their way into Sample A?
Frank’s going to give stock answers. It’s with the lawyers and I’m sure they’ll talk once the evidence has been reviewed and verdict given.
He was reacting to Jordan calling Eddie a coward because he didn’t let journalists ask questions after the press conference. Again, I’m not sure what they were expecting. If Eddie got asked how he thinks it ended it up in Benn’s body, he’s not going to answer and it’s not his place to answer.
Spud wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 12:36
I see and hear Frank Smith and TalkSports Simon Jordan having a war of words now and for once I agree with Jordan..
Smith giving text book answers which in my opinion amounts to a cover up.
I said before Benn would get off on a legal technicality but when it happens Benn will expect an apology from us all.
Theres one fundamental point that keeps me fprming an opinion that Benn should be BANNED and that is ALLEGEDLY traces of a drug were gound in sample A … regardless of how minimal those traces are how the f*ck did they find their way into Sample A?
nice of the main stream take a stand, whereas the internet YouTube channels all brown nose so they dont lose their credentials' haha
Controversial wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 12:34
A hair follicle test would clear it up immediately.
It would but Canelo passed a hair follicle test and still had a minor ban and was labelled a cheat.
Yes but he argued it was in the meat he ate and because the amount was so tiny he asked for a hair test which was negative, which apparently they can be in those instances. I'm not sure how Clomifene would be in a test but if it can be argued it was in something else then the hair test would surely clear it up.
Controversial wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 12:34
A hair follicle test would clear it up immediately.
It would but Canelo passed a hair follicle test and still had a minor ban and was labelled a cheat.
Yes but he argued it was in the meat he ate and because the amount was so tiny he asked for a hair test which was negative, which apparently they can be in those instances. I'm not sure how Clomifene would be in a test but if it can be argued it was in something else then the hair test would surely clear it up.
Clenbuterol is frequently found in Mexican beef. There was a case of an esports team that all failed doping tests due to clenbuterol and there have been many other examples. WADA have raised the minimum thresholds in recent years because of it. Based on the new widely accepted thresholds Canelo wouldn’t have failed the test.
It would but Canelo passed a hair follicle test and still had a minor ban and was labelled a cheat.
Yes but he argued it was in the meat he ate and because the amount was so tiny he asked for a hair test which was negative, which apparently they can be in those instances. I'm not sure how Clomifene would be in a test but if it can be argued it was in something else then the hair test would surely clear it up.
Clenbuterol is frequently found in Mexican beef. There was a case of an esports team that all failed doping tests due to clenbuterol and there have been many other examples. WADA have raised the minimum thresholds in recent years because of it. Based on the new widely accepted thresholds Canelo wouldn’t have failed the test.
Yes so the Canelo example isn’t relevant as it’s not the same thing found
Clenbuterol Is usually used as a fat burner in bodybuilding. There’s a fair bit of You Tube stuff on Canelo’s facial composition changing over time. There’s an absolutely zero probability the previous P4P number one isn’t on the whole pharmacy.
Anyone else think we should just give up on any sense of morality and just "play all in".
Take whatever, it's all in the game, a good pharmacist is as important as a top trainer, or high-level sparring..?
Legalising all drugs, would definitely improve society - where there is no moral angle to wrestle with, unlike in sport. Doesn't seem right in sport, but it least it would be fair, save all this boll*cks all the time, It would probably be more of a "level playing field" than we currently have.
I despair sometimes, I really do.
skanksta wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 09:55
Anyone else think we should just give up on any sense of morality and just "play all in".
Take whatever, it's all in the game, a good pharmacist is as important as a top trainer, or high-level sparring..?
Legalising all drugs, would definitely improve society - where there is no moral angle to wrestle with, unlike in sport. Doesn't seem right in sport, but it least it would be fair, save all this boll*cks all the time, It would probably be more of a "level playing field" than we currently have.
I despair sometimes, I really do.
The problem with that is anyone who wasn’t prepared to risk their health is either forced to take it or compete on an uneven playing field. There can be health implications in taking some of these drugs and if unregulated people would be taking bigger and bigger doses.
skanksta wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 09:55
Anyone else think we should just give up on any sense of morality and just "play all in".
Take whatever, it's all in the game, a good pharmacist is as important as a top trainer, or high-level sparring..?
Legalising all drugs, would definitely improve society - where there is no moral angle to wrestle with, unlike in sport. Doesn't seem right in sport, but it least it would be fair, save all this boll*cks all the time, It would probably be more of a "level playing field" than we currently have.
I despair sometimes, I really do.
The problem with that is anyone who wasn’t prepared to risk their health is either forced to take it or compete on an uneven playing field. There can be health implications in taking some of these drugs and if unregulated people would be taking bigger and bigger doses.
Well that's a good case against, but boxers already take big risks with their health.
And I also suspect that the current system just favours big names with the medical/legal infrastructure behind them.
I'm not saying I want it to happen, but it would solve some problems at least.
Controversial wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 09:51
Some top tennis player has just been banned for using PEDs and they are protesting their innocence
Simona Halep, two time Grand Slam Champion, has tested positive for PEDS. Today begins the hardest fight in her life as she fights to clear her name...she is innocent apparently. Conor Benn protests his innocence, too. Just as Fury did. Every athlete that fails a drug test is innocent it would seem.
skanksta wrote: ↑21 Oct 2022, 09:55
Anyone else think we should just give up on any sense of morality and just "play all in".
Take whatever, it's all in the game, a good pharmacist is as important as a top trainer, or high-level sparring..?
Legalising all drugs, would definitely improve society - where there is no moral angle to wrestle with, unlike in sport. Doesn't seem right in sport, but it least it would be fair, save all this boll*cks all the time, It would probably be more of a "level playing field" than we currently have.
I despair sometimes, I really do.
The problem with that is anyone who wasn’t prepared to risk their health is either forced to take it or compete on an uneven playing field. There can be health implications in taking some of these drugs and if unregulated people would be taking bigger and bigger doses.
Well that's a good case against, but boxers already take big risks with their health.
And I also suspect that the current system just favours big names with the medical/legal infrastructure behind them.
I'm not saying I want it to happen, but it would solve some problems at least.
Yeah I get the theory behind it but I think in practice it would make things a lot worse, if the floodgates were opened then all sports and participants would be in the same boat and there are plenty anti-drug and clean athletes who would be at even bigger disadvantages than they are at the moment
