Top 10 P4P, October 26, 2022

[ironbeard]

Just give your list and (if you feel it necessary) a brief reasoning behind it.

PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT ON OTHER LISTS

This is pure opinion. Make your P4P list and your reasoning for it your lone argument, please.

Usyk
Inoue
Canelo
TCraw
Spence
Haney
Shakur
3G
Chocolatito
Tank

[DrDuke]

1. Crawford
2. Inoue
3. Usyk
4. Bivol
5. Spence
6. Haney
7. Shakur
8. Canelo
9. Davis
10. Lil' Charlo

[ironbeard]

Thanks for participating DrDuke.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Inoue could be #1 for me tbh..

1. Oleksandr Usyk
2. Naoya Inoue
3. Terence Crawford
4. Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez
5. Errol Spence Jr.
6. Dmitry Bivol
7. Jermell Charlo
8. Artur Beterbiev
9. Devin Haney
10. Shakur Stevenson

[The Asleep Lamps]

Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. It better not get cancelled.

[SendoTakeshi]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bud
4. EJ
5. Bivol
6. Clenelo
7. Beterbiev
8. Loma
9. Davis
10. Stevenson

It was pretty tough to place 6.-10, the first 4-5 guys were no brainers, though.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. It better not get cancelled.

He probably dropped from a lot of rankings because he was very inactive since he 'beat' Choco..

Then he fought like 18+ months later (Sept 22) against an unknown Argi Cortes.. Probably wasn't enough to rank him again.

[margaret thatcher]

Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. It better not get cancelled.

estrada got a gift over little chocolate and i generally dont find him to be stand out impressive. he barely won his last fight, vs a fringe contender id never heard of

[The Asleep Lamps]

Usyk is #1 for me although Inoue may eventually claim that spot. Comparing other rankings, why nobody ranks Estrada? He is about to retire Chocolatito. But before that, Bivol vs Ramirez has the potential to upend these rankings. This is the next underlined fight on my schedule. It better not get cancelled.

estrada got a gift over little chocolate and i generally dont find him to be stand out impressive. he barely won his last fight, vs a fringe contender id never heard of

I didn't see that Cortes fight, but the comments I read sound like people liked it.
Granted he had a whole career before his last fight . That is why Canelo is still top 3 for me. So he lost against a natural 175lber. I give him credit for attempting to lift that belt.

[KiwiRider]

Just give your list

But it's sooo much work
Can't you just do the definitive list then go off line for another month so no one can argue it, or something?

[giacomino]

Inoue
Chocolatito
Crawford
Spence
Bivol
Canelo
Usyk
Haney
Shakur (who could be #1 a year from now)
Estrada or Junto Nakatani (toss up)

[ironbeard]

Just give your list

But it's sooo much work
Can't you just do the definitive list then go off line for another month so no one can argue it, or something?

Calm down Kiwi. You know that I know that you know who you think are the top 10 p4p fighters in the world.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji

[CMCanavessi]

Usyk is not even number 1 in his own division. Inoue #1.

[margaret thatcher]

Usyk is not even number 1 in his own division. Inoue #1.

where do you rate uzzy p4p ?

[gilgamesh]

Usyk is #1 P4P with a bullet right now.

And I don't think it's out of the question at all that he could beat Fury. Obviously it's not a sure thing, but I think he could do it.

I have little doubt he could beat Wilder. He'd need to avoid the bomb, but other than that he'd win virtually every moment of the fight he wasn't hurt or downed in.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

[Sweet Dick Willie]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

[Sweet Dick Willie]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Teraji

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Estrada
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Tank

The Ring reduced Loma to number 10 and put Haney number 8 but I disagree. Loma comfortably won but Haney did good as well. I drop Charlo due inactivity and add Tank due to his absolute masterful performance against Garcia.

How do you guys have it?

[giacomino]

I’d have Crawford #4 or #5. Loma didn’t win comfortably, it was close and IMO it was a fairly boring fight, but I’d have him above Haley, maybe #8 and #9. Stevenson will be top #5 within a year. Maybe Spence too if he ever fights/beats Crawford. The rest is fine

[DrDuke]

Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.

We gotta understand that Loma has had a spectacular pro career, without the Lopez and Haney loss he would still be number one in 2023

[DrDuke]

Lomachenko can't be there because of his loss to Lopez, Haney can't be there because of his 'win' over Lomachenko.

We gotta understand that Loma has had a spectacular pro career, without the Lopez and Haney loss he would still be number one in 2023

That's right, but he has those losses and against Lopez he indeed looked not convincing.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

1. Usyk
2. Inoue
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Charlo (Jermell)
8. Estrada
9. Chocolatito
10. Haney

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Bivol
4. Canelo
5. Lomachenko
6. Beterbiev
7. Estrada
8. Chocolatito
9. Haney
10. Tank

Still the same. I just can't find Teo convincing enough. Spence and Bud might carve their ways into the list later this summer but I'm still pretty sure the fight won't happen...

[cpx2]

1. Inoue
2. Usyk
3. Crawford
4. Bivol
5. Beterbiev
6. Spence
7. Canelo
8. Charlo
9. Chocolatito
10. Loma

HM: Fulton, Fury, Haney, Bam, Estrada.

Without giving it too much thought, and probably missing someone off somewhere. Lopez, Stevenson, Davis and possibly Benavidez worth a mention as well.