A PED Thread

[maverick23]

The way Eddie talks, you’d think Conor is the Archbishop of Canterbury or something.

[KiwiRider]

“This is a man of faith and of God, not that that should matter in a court of law. But what I’m saying is this he didn’t want to make up an excuse. He wants to be honest with people.

I know right?
Never ever has Connor Benn acted like a man of God.
Well, maybe, it depends what or who he call God.
I just remember him celebrating the unmoving Chris Algieri on the canvas like it was job well done.
No one does that except psychopaths.

[high tower 1]

Ban for life if caught. Whole team need to be punished.

Boxing is a lethal sport. Someone will die and the opponent will test positive. Even when it comes to dementia or nurological issues - there will be a correlation found.

Society is getting more cautious about head injuries and if boxing doesn’t sort itself out it’s getting banned.

[KiwiRider]

Ban for life if caught. Whole team need to be punished.

Boxing is a lethal sport. Someone will die and the opponent will test positive. Even when it comes to dementia or nurological issues - there will be a correlation found.

Society is getting more cautious about head injuries and if boxing doesn’t sort itself out it’s getting banned.

100% agree..
And way better put than I could have.
The last five years we have learned a massive amount about CTE and how early it can ruin your life, and the people around you.
I would not be surprised if boxing gets banned in developed countries in the next 2-5 years, and these drug cheats are doing nothing to help the sport.

[Grilling Machine]

A lot of the teenage influencers are taking Sarms (a rough and ready equivalent of steroids), which are drugs not cleared as safe for human consumption. But you can order them legally online in the UK from underground type online supplement stores. Huge debate whether they actually work that well. Probably hugely harmful in the long term.

Baby Miller was on GW1516, which is likely safe for a few weeks but carries cancer fears if used for months into years. GW0742 was developed to try and make it safer but doesn't seem to have helped.

It shows up in urine for a considerable time after you stop, is the problem, so you have to make educated guesses on your visits (gonna come back to this in my next reply). Quit using too early and you might've taken a risk for nothing. It's also really effective for some people and does hardly anything for others.

A bit like TUEs, where you mightn't see much benefit from asthma meds without at least a mild obstructive weakness. Highly variable gains seems to be common with PEDs from much of what I've read.

I don’t know the cost of it so that may be prohibitive but someone like Johnny Fisher has been a pro nearly 2 years and said recently he’s never been tested. There isn’t a massive deterrent there.

Yeah, I think this is the main thing that informs current athletes. If I were a trainer I'd log testing dates to see if they're truly random, or if the bodies maybe prioritise testing closer to fights. Because it feels logical to least suspect doping far out from major fights, what with the drop-off in gains if that boxer remains ‘clean’ thereafter.

So if testing seemed less frequent at that point, I'd be advising my fighters to dose early and do their best to minimise their loss of gains throughout camp. It can still be a hefty initial leg-up. But then maybe testing is properly random, with big names trying and failing to predict their cycle timings.

In general, I do think the days of going Full Ronnie are over (with the possible exception of tennis and certain other sports, where you can just keep ‘retiring’ with injuries). And I don't think it's always obvious, in that you might find a light puncher on HGH, or someone with poor cardio on EPO.

Makes me wonder if Groves was clean on that front, and might've beaten Froch in one of their fights with some endurance help. At least we know Joyce's chin is natural!

[brilo33]

but the thing with peds is there is so many for different usages what will warrant a life time ban i mean drugs like coke dam i mean i dont like running up stairs on that unless ive had a beer to take the edge of , peds have been around since the cold war 1950s i werent born till the 80s but i know that, if any one follows football soccer for the American friends a lot of the Barcelona team in 2010s lot of epo was talked about dutch players banned they had coaches , its every were i still dont think some fighters even though there taking it, iam not that naïve to suggest recent ones didn't know, and there is good people on the forum that have taken roids and will tell you the gains from it

[coneye]

“This is a man of faith and of God, not that that should matter in a court of law. But what I’m saying is this he didn’t want to make up an excuse. He wants to be honest with people.

I know right?
Never ever has Connor Benn acted like a man of God.
Well, maybe, it depends what or who he call God.
I just remember him celebrating the unmoving Chris Algieri on the canvas like it was job well done.
No one does that except psychopaths.

Was'nt his biggest fan Pastor rip rap alias his dad , jumping around with him , has well while Algeria was down , ,, that was one of the worst moments i ever seen in boxing , and whats more there has close has they make out i would say pastor rip rap the new found man of god , knew EVERY SINGLE thing regards Conors carreer ,, Apple never falls far from the tree has they say

[high tower 1]

If Benn is banned for years is he gonna be on skid row ?? Has he not been blowing all his cash on rolls Royce’s??

[Glass Joe]

The World Boxing Council (WBC) and Lawrence Okolie have confirmed that they have reached an Adjudication Agreement regarding Mr. Okolie’s adverse analytical finding under the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

Following the WBC’s thorough and detailed review of the nature of the substance and the circumstances of the adverse finding, and considering the extensive submissions made on Mr. Okolie’s behalf, the parties have agreed to a resolution of the matter arising from a sample collected on 8 April 2026.

Throughout the process, Mr. Okolie fully cooperated with the WBC’s review and provided extenuating evidence supporting his position that the prohibited substance entered his system as a result of the actions of a third party, without his knowledge or consent. The WBC considered that mitigating evidence, together with Mr. Okolie’s unblemished testing history and cooperation throughout the process when reaching the agreed resolution.

Lawrence Okolie said:

” Clean sport has always been extremely important to me. I have cooperated fully throughout the process and remain committed to the highest standards of integrity in boxing. I look forward to the next chapter of my career and to being actively involved in the sport in the months ahead, while also using this experience to help educate other athletes about the importance of understanding and monitoring everything that enters their bodies.”

WBC President Mauricio Sulaimán said:

“The WBC Clean Boxing Program exists to protect athletes and the integrity of our sport. We appreciate Mr. Okolie’s cooperation throughout this process and welcome his commitment to helping educate fighters about anti-doping compliance and athlete responsibility.”

As part of the agreed resolution, Mr. Okolie will remain available to undergo additional testing and to work with the WBC in support of education, awareness and compliance with anti-doping requirements among professional and amateur boxers.

Mr. Okolie remains committed to the sport of boxing and to supporting efforts that promote clean competition, athlete welfare and education across the sport.




WBC would probably clear Ronnie Coleman in his prime

[keithmoonhangover]

The World Boxing Council (WBC) and Lawrence Okolie have confirmed that they have reached an Adjudication Agreement regarding Mr. Okolie’s adverse analytical finding under the WBC Clean Boxing Program.

Following the WBC’s thorough and detailed review of the nature of the substance and the circumstances of the adverse finding, and considering the extensive submissions made on Mr. Okolie’s behalf, the parties have agreed to a resolution of the matter arising from a sample collected on 8 April 2026.

Throughout the process, Mr. Okolie fully cooperated with the WBC’s review and provided extenuating evidence supporting his position that the prohibited substance entered his system as a result of the actions of a third party, without his knowledge or consent. The WBC considered that mitigating evidence, together with Mr. Okolie’s unblemished testing history and cooperation throughout the process when reaching the agreed resolution.

Lawrence Okolie said:

” Clean sport has always been extremely important to me. I have cooperated fully throughout the process and remain committed to the highest standards of integrity in boxing. I look forward to the next chapter of my career and to being actively involved in the sport in the months ahead, while also using this experience to help educate other athletes about the importance of understanding and monitoring everything that enters their bodies.”

WBC President Mauricio Sulaimán said:

“The WBC Clean Boxing Program exists to protect athletes and the integrity of our sport. We appreciate Mr. Okolie’s cooperation throughout this process and welcome his commitment to helping educate fighters about anti-doping compliance and athlete responsibility.”

As part of the agreed resolution, Mr. Okolie will remain available to undergo additional testing and to work with the WBC in support of education, awareness and compliance with anti-doping requirements among professional and amateur boxers.

Mr. Okolie remains committed to the sport of boxing and to supporting efforts that promote clean competition, athlete welfare and education across the sport.




WBC would probably clear Ronnie Coleman in his prime

YEAH BUDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Grilling Machine]

Ain't nothin but a carpet brush!

[keithmoonhangover]

Ain't nothin but a carpet brush!

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