Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

[keithmoonhangover]

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I should have worded that question better based on the specific situation.
All the examples you've provided are giving deadlines of over a week or more, and after initial contract talks have begun (the exception being Jake Paul v Tyson...really? ).
Fury was setting deadlines before the contract was even delivered, which is completely unrealistic.
Then, the first day of negotiations with all relevant parties meeting to discuss, he set a dealine of 5pm that same day. A deadline of less than a day. Again completely unrealistic.

So any examples of personal deadlines being set with less than a day's notice of contract negotiations starting?

You asked for examples of fighters setting deadlines and I've given you a list of them.
Now your turn to give me examples of other fighters who have agreed terms to fight, freestyled about signing the contract and travelled abroad to do fashion shows instead of training whilst their trainer was on a different continent.

You want examples of boxers who haven't signed to fight anyone, not being in the gym every day? You seriously want this?

[maverick23]

Verbal offer on the 6th, first contract sent on the 16th and that’s seemingly with little discussion between the teams between those dates which would normally slow things down.

Fury then issues an ultimatum on the 23rd (just 7 days after the contract was sent where they’d seemingly been little discussion between the teams before it was issued). The ultimatum was ‘if it’s not done by Monday, I’m moving on’.

Fury then on the 26th says ‘“Well guys, it’s official. D-day has come and gone. It’s gone past five o’clock, Monday. No contract has been signed. It’s officially over for Joshua.’

He then announced the following day he was fighting Manuel Charr.

As I’ve said before I think Fury did want the fight. He’s just not intelligent enough to realise that these kind of things gave AJ’s team a reason not to progress. If he keeps his mouth shut then I think Matchroom and AJ would have ended up signing, despite Matchroom not wanting to.

As you well know there was another deadline and negotiations carried on after that and Joshua's team never provided a turnaround on the contract.

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Joshua has hinted at "mentally needing a rest" yet you insist he would have signed if Fury kept his mouth shut. What do you think it was that Fury said that affected Joshua's mental state so badly?

Yeah - he gave another short deadline 3 days later. His stupid games gave AJ’s team a route out of the fight and would have slowed down and impacted negotiations.

Fortunately he didn’t give Del Boy deadlines and they managed to get the fight announced 9 weeks after Del Boy received the first contract. It would have been nice if he’d given AJ a quarter of that time.

[The Gratest]

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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/3 ... ayweather/

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... fight.html

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2009/ ... y-pacquiao

I should have worded that question better based on the specific situation.
All the examples you've provided are giving deadlines of over a week or more, and after initial contract talks have begun (the exception being Jake Paul v Tyson...really? ).
Fury was setting deadlines before the contract was even delivered, which is completely unrealistic.
Then, the first day of negotiations with all relevant parties meeting to discuss, he set a dealine of 5pm that same day. A deadline of less than a day. Again completely unrealistic.

So any examples of personal deadlines being set with less than a day's notice of contract negotiations starting?

You asked for examples of fighters setting deadlines and I've given you a list of them.

So, you don't have any examples of deadlines being set with less than a day's notice. Cool

[Boxerbeetle]

Fury fans are weird. Remind me of teenage girls refusing to hear any criticism of their favourite pop groups.

[Frostieballs]

Fury fans are weird. Remind me of teenage girls refusing to hear any criticism of their favourite pop groups.

It’s like trying to reason with Comical Ali and Trump supporters

[coneye]

Fury fans are weird. Remind me of teenage girls refusing to hear any criticism of their favourite pop groups.

Dont know why you guys are arguing over it , simple facts are , Fury offered it from all accounts Aj said yes , but obvious his promoter was,nt keen Fury made demands 60 ,,,,40 go in dec , aj said yes ,, fury or warren sent contracts knowing not enough time to sort it all ,, Fury sent time demands , looked like he was looking for a way out , Aj knew Fury was also in negotiations to fight Chisora at the same time , Hearn was estatjic Fury threw. Him an excuse not to go ahead with anything seems to me they all got the outcome they wanted ,, Fury asked for it thinking they would,nt accept ,, Aj has a better track reccord of fighting better opponents and his pride said yes ,, Hearn shit himself about it ,, Fury panicked because it was accepted , whenn he did,nt really want it ,, Fury does,nt want to risk losing just yet theres too mjuch milking gto be done , Aj i think will fight anyone but Hearn knows he,s a bit limited and is desperate for lower opposition and get some wins in the bank , Then build it up for the big payday , trouble is the fans are losing interest i know i am ,but juzt do has i will do ignore both fighting anyone but the top guys , if fury isnt in against either Aj ,,,Ruiz or Usyk and AJ isn,t in against Wilder or Fury , i,m not never watching any off them again , just lost interest now ,, all you guys are correct because there both has bad has each other

[big lennox]

Zero point in engaging with Big Doofus. Just a troll. Nothing more, nothing less. And Fury is no different.

That said, it was interesting to see True Geordie engage with Fury. Imagine the reaction if he had touched on uncastrated wild boar gate..

[maverick23]

Fury fans are weird. Remind me of teenage girls refusing to hear any criticism of their favourite pop groups.

Dont know why you guys are arguing over it , simple facts are , Fury offered it from all accounts Aj said yes , but obvious his promoter was,nt keen Fury made demands 60 ,,,,40 go in dec , aj said yes ,, fury or warren sent contracts knowing not enough time to sort it all ,, Fury sent time demands , looked like he was looking for a way out , Aj knew Fury was also in negotiations to fight Chisora at the same time , Hearn was estatjic Fury threw. Him an excuse not to go ahead with anything seems to me they all got the outcome they wanted ,, Fury asked for it thinking they would,nt accept ,, Aj has a better track reccord of fighting better opponents and his pride said yes ,, Hearn shit himself about it ,, Fury panicked because it was accepted , whenn he did,nt really want it ,, Fury does,nt want to risk losing just yet theres too mjuch milking gto be done , Aj i think will fight anyone but Hearn knows he,s a bit limited and is desperate for lower opposition and get some wins in the bank , Then build it up for the big payday , trouble is the fans are losing interest i know i am ,but juzt do has i will do ignore both fighting anyone but the top guys , if fury isnt in against either Aj ,,,Ruiz or Usyk and AJ isn,t in against Wilder or Fury , i,m not never watching any off them again , just lost interest now ,, all you guys are correct because there both has bad has each other

Well said

[The Gratest]

Now your turn to give me examples of other fighters who have agreed terms to fight, freestyled about signing the contract and travelled abroad to do fashion shows instead of training whilst their trainer was on a different continent.

Sure, no problem
When Fury agreed to the Klitschko rematch.
Although, not sure if drink and cocaine binges are quite as horrific as those damn fashion shows?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Are we still talking about Fury-Chisora?

[oogiebe]

Are we still talking about Fury-Chisora?

LOL! Can't believe how much chat we have this 'fight.' I have absolutely zero interest.

[The Gratest]

This thread has more twists and turns and intrigue than the fight itself.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Are we still talking about Fury-Chisora?

LOL! Can't believe how much chat we have this 'fight.' I have absolutely zero interest.

From the last couple of pages.. I don’t think anyone actually talking about Fury-Chisora..

[keithmoonhangover]

Del lumbers forward, landing a few lefts and rights to the body, missing with the overhand right. Fury will carry it for a few rounds and Del will be put into his shell with Fury's accuracy. Del finds a home on the ropes and after a couple more rounds, the ref steps in during a Fury barrage with little landing.

[Verdi]

Fury fans are weird. Remind me of teenage girls refusing to hear any criticism of their favourite pop groups.

It's very strange isn't it? I guess that's the difference in being a boxing fan and a celebrity worship fanboy.

[BigDoofus]

Joshua has hinted at "mentally needing a rest" yet you insist he would have signed if Fury kept his mouth shut. What do you think it was that Fury said that affected Joshua's mental state so badly?

Yeah - he gave another short deadline 3 days later. His stupid games gave AJ’s team a route out of the fight and would have slowed down and impacted negotiations.

Fortunately he didn’t give Del Boy deadlines and they managed to get the fight announced 9 weeks after Del Boy received the first contract. It would have been nice if he’d given AJ a quarter of that time.

So you think that Fury's "stupid games" were the reason that Joshua mentally needed a rest? Were they so bad that he needed another 5 months off?
Your hero Eddie has said that him and Joshua should take equal blame for the fight not happening. What do you and the other Gratest AJ fanboys concede that they did wrong?

[The Gratest]

Fury took 3 years off after agreeing the rematch with Klitschko.

Lol. I'm not an AJ fanboy Doofus, I've already said they were both to blame. You just seem to be the only one on here who takes Fury's word as gospel, while losing it with anything Joshua does.

Anyway, Fury had already said in August he was coming out of retirement to fight Chisora in December. He was telling the truth for once.

[maverick23]

Joshua has hinted at "mentally needing a rest" yet you insist he would have signed if Fury kept his mouth shut. What do you think it was that Fury said that affected Joshua's mental state so badly?

Yeah - he gave another short deadline 3 days later. His stupid games gave AJ’s team a route out of the fight and would have slowed down and impacted negotiations.

Fortunately he didn’t give Del Boy deadlines and they managed to get the fight announced 9 weeks after Del Boy received the first contract. It would have been nice if he’d given AJ a quarter of that time.

So you think that Fury's "stupid games" were the reason that Joshua mentally needed a rest? Were they so bad that he needed another 5 months off?
Your hero Eddie has said that him and Joshua should take equal blame for the fight not happening. What do you and the other Gratest AJ fanboys concede that they did wrong?

You’re a bit obsessed pal. You seem to think I’m anti-Fury - I’m not. I’m pretty level headed on these kind of things unlike some who just see things one way.

Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.

Eddie isn’t my hero. Far from it. Calling me an AJ fanboy is also a bit strange - I’ve paid to see more Fury fights live than AJ fights (including Klitschko). He’s an amazing boxer. Just talks more shit than any fighter in recent memory and had had made a really disappointing opponent choice in his next fight when he could have kept his mouth shut to force Matchroom to accept the AJ fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

Fury took 3 years off after agreeing the rematch with Klitschko.

Excuse me sir, I take exception to this. Fury was hitting the bag hard for most of those three years, just a different kind of bag.

[BigDoofus]

So you think that Fury's "stupid games" were the reason that Joshua mentally needed a rest? Were they so bad that he needed another 5 months off?
Your hero Eddie has said that him and Joshua should take equal blame for the fight not happening. What do you and the other Gratest AJ fanboys concede that they did wrong?

You’re a bit obsessed pal. You seem to think I’m anti-Fury - I’m not. I’m pretty level headed on these kind of things unlike some who just see things one way.

Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.

Eddie isn’t my hero. Far from it. Calling me an AJ fanboy is also a bit strange - I’ve paid to see more Fury fights live than AJ fights (including Klitschko). He’s an amazing boxer. Just talks more shit than any fighter in recent memory and had had made a really disappointing opponent choice in his next fight when he could have kept his mouth shut to force Matchroom to accept the AJ fight.

Eddie said that Joshua and him were equally to blame for the fight not happening.
Again, what do you and The Gratest concede that they did to stop the fight?

[The Gratest]

Fury took 3 years off after agreeing the rematch with Klitschko.

Excuse me sir, I take exception to this. Fury was hitting the bag hard for most of those three years, just a different kind of bag.

Da hoover bag?
Just as long as he wasn't attending any fashion shows whilst at it!

[The Gratest]

So you think that Fury's "stupid games" were the reason that Joshua mentally needed a rest? Were they so bad that he needed another 5 months off?
Your hero Eddie has said that him and Joshua should take equal blame for the fight not happening. What do you and the other Gratest AJ fanboys concede that they did wrong?

You’re a bit obsessed pal. You seem to think I’m anti-Fury - I’m not. I’m pretty level headed on these kind of things unlike some who just see things one way.

Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.

Eddie isn’t my hero. Far from it. Calling me an AJ fanboy is also a bit strange - I’ve paid to see more Fury fights live than AJ fights (including Klitschko). He’s an amazing boxer. Just talks more shit than any fighter in recent memory and had had made a really disappointing opponent choice in his next fight when he could have kept his mouth shut to force Matchroom to accept the AJ fight.

Eddie said that Joshua and him were equally to blame for the fight not happening.
Again, what do you and The Gratest concede that they did to stop the fight?

Already went over all this before Doofus. Not our fault if you ignore/don't read what you don't like.

[BigDoofus]

Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.

You believe that he was going to fight in December (even though he wasn't training and his trainer was on a different Continent) and now, after Fury's "stupid games", needs a rest until May.
Sounds convincing.

[maverick23]

So you think that Fury's "stupid games" were the reason that Joshua mentally needed a rest? Were they so bad that he needed another 5 months off?
Your hero Eddie has said that him and Joshua should take equal blame for the fight not happening. What do you and the other Gratest AJ fanboys concede that they did wrong?

You’re a bit obsessed pal. You seem to think I’m anti-Fury - I’m not. I’m pretty level headed on these kind of things unlike some who just see things one way.

Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.

Eddie isn’t my hero. Far from it. Calling me an AJ fanboy is also a bit strange - I’ve paid to see more Fury fights live than AJ fights (including Klitschko). He’s an amazing boxer. Just talks more shit than any fighter in recent memory and had had made a really disappointing opponent choice in his next fight when he could have kept his mouth shut to force Matchroom to accept the AJ fight.

Eddie said that Joshua and him were equally to blame for the fight not happening.
Again, what do you and The Gratest concede that they did to stop the fight?

Have you got a link to Eddie saying that?

[BigDoofus]

Eddie said that Joshua and him were equally to blame for the fight not happening.
Again, what do you and The Gratest concede that they did to stop the fight?

Already went over all this before Doofus. Not our fault if you ignore/don't read what you don't like.

Eddie admits that him and Joshua were at fault but you can't let yourself concede they did wrong.