BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Kossobutskiy vs. Muhamed

[Ruthless-RKO]

Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - next fight: 03.12.2022 vs. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 (#9)

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: 26.11.2022 vs. Jermaine Franklin - 21(14) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #55)

9. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: 03.12.2022 vs. Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - ()

10. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected after Zhan Kossobutskiy KO'd fellow knockout artist Hussein Muhamed?

[SportsRatings]

I think he's top 15 and better than some of these guys but not by enough to push someone else out for him.

[Perkin Warbeck]

Zhan in at #15, Pulev out.

[Ruthless-RKO]

If he gets in, he probably wont keep his place long..

I can’t see him pushing anyone out with that last performance.

Maybe I want to see him beat someone who is a bit highly ranked than Muhamed.

That’s just me though.

[DrDuke]

Some other rising fighters deserve it more.

[margaret thatcher]

no change

[gregregegg]

Gotta stay out. He keeps beating decent guys. But those 80-100th ish guys in the world just arnt enough to become top 15..

[CMCanavessi]

Out and still quite far away from 15

[oogiebe]

Out

[Ruthless-RKO]

Zhan cam come again in January.. See who he fights.

My votes is: remain out!

[joshj909]

Kossobutskiy in at 40th with this win.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Gonna close this tomorrow.

[margaret thatcher]

zhan is top 30-40 right now, cant really go any higher in the ratings with the level of opposition he's been facing lately, even if he got to 40-0. needs to step up and win to move to the next tier

[tiny_acres]

out and a long way to go to be in the top 15

[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

No Change.

Current ranking:
Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - next fight: 03.12.2022 vs. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 (#9)

2. Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

3. Anthony Joshua - 24(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. Joe Joyce - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Joseph Parker - 30(21) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. Dillian Whyte - 28(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: 26.11.2022 vs. Jermaine Franklin - 21(14) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #53)

9. Dereck Chisora - 33(23) 12(3) 0 - next fight: 03.12.2022 vs. Tyson Fury - 32(23) 0 1 - ()

10. Martin Bakole - 18(13) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Frank Sanchez - 21(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Otto Wallin - 24(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

26.11.2022 - Bakhodir Jalolov - 11(11) 0 0 (BoxRec's #25) vs. Curtis Harper - 14(9) 8 (3) 0 - (BoxRec's #105)

03.12.2022 - Daniel Dubois - 18(17) 1(1) 0 (BoxRec's #17) vs. Kevin Lerena - 28(14) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #23)

10.12.2022 - Jared Anderson - 12(12) 0 0 (BoxRec's #52) vs. Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 - (BoxRec's #32)

16.12.2022 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 15(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #18) vs. Raphael Akpejiori - 14(13) 0 0 - (Boxrec's #109)

28.01.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #34) vs. TBA - 0(0) 0 0 - ()

[joshj909]

Whyte/Franklin, Wardley/Gorman, Jalalov/Harper, Fury/Chisora, Dubois/Lerena, Anderson/Forest, Makhmudov/Akpejiori and Kabayel/TBA would be all the fights before the end of the year. Unless there's a surprise result I don't see these rankings being changed much by all these unfortunately.

[gregregegg]

Whyte/Franklin, Wardley/Gorman, Jalalov/Harper, Fury/Chisora, Dubois/Lerena, Anderson/Forest, Makhmudov/Akpejiori and Kabayel/TBA would be all the fights before the end of the year. Unless there's a surprise result I don't see these rankings being changed much by all these unfortunately.

DDD would clearly get in with a dominant win for me.

Wardly Gorman winner would have to be close.

Shiit if big Fraze stops soko he would become fringe….

The 10-15th on this list are hanging on by a thread. Anything decent gets you above them.

[margaret thatcher]

wardley and gorman are far off for me, i wouldnt vote either in with a win

fwiw it's boxrec's #51 vs 81



dubstep is very close though and probably the leading contender outside the top 15, he could feasibly be in already. a good win for big mak and he'd be serious contender too, but his next opponent wont let him get there. anderson and jalo too far off to enter on their next fights i think. franklin with an upset of whyte would enter.

[oogiebe]

wardley and gorman are far off for me, i wouldnt vote either in with a win

fwiw it's boxrec's #51 vs 81



dubstep is very close though and probably the leading contender outside the top 15, he could feasibly be in already. a good win for big mak and he'd be serious contender too, but his next opponent wont let him get there. anderson and jalo too far off to enter on their next fights i think. franklin with an upset of whyte would enter.

You're spot on Mags. My only disagreement might be that Franklin upsetting Whyte might be more of how far Whyte has dropped and not so much Jermaine being worthy.

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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

26.11.2022 - Bakhodir Jalolov - 11(11) 0 0 (BoxRec's #26) vs. Curtis Harper - 14(9) 8 (3) 0 - (BoxRec's #106)

03.12.2022 - Daniel Dubois - 18(17) 1(1) 0 (BoxRec's #18) vs. Kevin Lerena - 28(14) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #24)

10.12.2022 - Jared Anderson - 12(12) 0 0 (BoxRec's #53) vs. Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 - (BoxRec's #33)

16.12.2022 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 15(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #19) vs. Michael Wallisch - 23(16) 5(5) 0 - (Boxrec's #161)

28.01.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #34) vs. TBA - 0(0) 0 0 - ()

[oogiebe]

Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

26.11.2022 - Bakhodir Jalolov - 11(11) 0 0 (BoxRec's #26) vs. Curtis Harper - 14(9) 8 (3) 0 - (BoxRec's #106)

03.12.2022 - Daniel Dubois - 18(17) 1(1) 0 (BoxRec's #18) vs. Kevin Lerena - 28(14) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #24)

10.12.2022 - Jared Anderson - 12(12) 0 0 (BoxRec's #53) vs. Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 - (BoxRec's #33)

16.12.2022 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 15(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #19) vs. Michael Wallisch - 23(16) 5(5) 0 - (Boxrec's #161)

28.01.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #34) vs. TBA - 0(0) 0 0 - ()

Jalalov fight has no bearing here.
Dubs would have to at least meet expectation by taking out Lerena within five to get in.
Anderson can impress, but nothing he can do here will thrust him into the top 15 vs Forrest
Big Mak can move in if he demolishes Wallisch in impressive fashion
Kabayel is a waste of talent. Totally mismanaged and I've given up on him altogether.

[tiny_acres]

Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

26.11.2022 - Bakhodir Jalolov - 11(11) 0 0 (BoxRec's #26) vs. Curtis Harper - 14(9) 8 (3) 0 - (BoxRec's #106)

03.12.2022 - Daniel Dubois - 18(17) 1(1) 0 (BoxRec's #18) vs. Kevin Lerena - 28(14) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #24)

10.12.2022 - Jared Anderson - 12(12) 0 0 (BoxRec's #53) vs. Jerry Forrest - 26(20) 5(1) 2 - (BoxRec's #33)

16.12.2022 - Arslanbek Makhmudov - 15(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #19) vs. Michael Wallisch - 23(16) 5(5) 0 - (Boxrec's #161)

28.01.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 (BoxRec's #34) vs. TBA - 0(0) 0 0 - ()

Jalalov fight has no bearing here.
Dubs would have to at least meet expectation by taking out Lerena within five to get in.
Anderson can impress, but nothing he can do here will thrust him into the top 15 vs Forrest
Big Mak can move in if he demolishes Wallisch in impressive fashion
Kabayel is a waste of talent. Totally mismanaged and I've given up on him altogether.

I don't think anyone on the list you mention is even close to a top 15 rating. Dubois is closest and he has beat no one at all to elevate him.

[gregregegg]

I think gorman and lerena would put DDD ahead of otto on resume.

[margaret thatcher]

we need to judge potential entrants relative to the guys at the bottom of the list, not just stand alone. true the likes of ddd hardly have some eye catching resume...........but compared to our #15 hrgovic for example, he certainly has an argument. keep in mind that his effort vs joyce is looking increasingly good now too

[margaret thatcher]

I think gorman and lerena would put DDD ahead of otto on resume.

gorman has a lot of credibility on the line vs wardley. okay he lost to ddd, but dubs was a bit of a beast for that level when they fought. but wardley isnt and gorman isnt a 'baby' at 22-23 now anymore. if gorman is to be taken seriously within the top 30, even as a victim, he needs to get a win there or at very least make it hell for wardley.

wardley too, it's one he's gotta win well to be taken seriously the next level up. good fight that is very important for each guy to progress