BigDoofus wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:09
Eddie said that Joshua and him were equally to blame for the fight not happening.
Again, what do you and The Gratest concede that they did to stop the fight?
Already went over all this before Doofus. Not our fault if you ignore/don't read what you don't like.
Eddie admits that him and Joshua were at fault but you can't let yourself concede they did wrong.
Already covered it. Here, have a read through this thread
maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:04
Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.
You believe that he was going to fight in December (even though he wasn't training and his trainer was on a different Continent) and now, after Fury's "stupid games", needs a rest until May.
Sounds convincing.
I believe that was the original plan. He’d a long camp for the Usyk rematch, lost the fight but didn’t take a beating so probably thought he could get away with a 8-10 week camp off the back of that and fight December 17th against a relatively soft opponent. He’s now decided against that.
maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:24
I believe that was the original plan. He’d a long camp for the Usyk rematch, lost the fight but didn’t take a beating so probably thought he could get away with a 8-10 week camp off the back of that and fight December 17th against a relatively soft opponent. He’s now decided against that.
He agreed to fight on 3 December. Do you believe he was training for that?
maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:24
I believe that was the original plan. He’d a long camp for the Usyk rematch, lost the fight but didn’t take a beating so probably thought he could get away with a 8-10 week camp off the back of that and fight December 17th against a relatively soft opponent. He’s now decided against that.
He agreed to fight on 3 December. Do you believe he was training for that?
Doofus. you need to calm down man, you're going to give yourself an aneurism.
maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:24
I believe that was the original plan. He’d a long camp for the Usyk rematch, lost the fight but didn’t take a beating so probably thought he could get away with a 8-10 week camp off the back of that and fight December 17th against a relatively soft opponent. He’s now decided against that.
He agreed to fight on 3 December. Do you believe he was training for that?
No. I think once the fight was signed he would have had time for a 9 week camp as he would have only been 6 weeks removed from his last camp.
I don’t think he’s the type to eat a load of rubbish, drink a load of booze and do zero exercise when he’s not got a fight signed.
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 08:59
Are we still talking about Fury-Chisora?
LOL! Can't believe how much chat we have this 'fight.' I have absolutely zero interest.
From the last couple of pages.. I don’t think anyone actually talking about Fury-Chisora..
Jesus, just went through some posts. You are correct. Seems it has nothing to do with this fight. Just some fanbois doing their thing on fury and AJ. (and eddie..."eddie said...") LMFAO!
I think you’ve sent the wrong link. Have you got the link to where Eddie that him and AJ were ‘equally at fault’ as you said?
I was going off what I heard on talksport. The exact quote was “It’s probably a bit of everybody’s fault”.
You're playing with words again.
Hearn has admitted that him and Joshua were at fault but you and The Gratest can't.
What do you concede that Hearn and Joshua did to prevent the fight happening?
I think you’ve sent the wrong link. Have you got the link to where Eddie that him and AJ were ‘equally at fault’ as you said?
I was going off what I heard on talksport. The exact quote was “It’s probably a bit of everybody’s fault”.
You're playing with words again.
Hearn has admitted that him and Joshua were at fault but you and The Gratest can't.
What do you concede that Hearn and Joshua did to prevent the fight happening?
I’m not playing with words. I just asked to see where Eddie had said what you claimed. He didn’t say what you said. No big deal.
I’ve said several times what Hearn did to prevent the fight. AJ could/should have pushed his promoters more to get it agreed but when he’s seeing deadlines on Insta and Tyson saying the fight isn’t happening he’s probably more inclined to believe his team can’t get the fight done.
That’s the last I’m going to say on this thread about AJ/Eddie because it’s not on topic.
So you just made it up Doofus, classic Fury tactic.
Everybody's fault - meaning Fury's team and Joshua's team.
I've already stated that as well in the thread, they're all at fault, Fury, Warren, Hearn and Joshua. You are the only one putting the blame entirely on one side and not reading what others have writren.
It's tedious now, was tedious a long time ago, and it's clear no-one's going to change their perspective of whose fault it was, especially when it's reached the point of needing to make shit up.
I'm out now.
maverick23 wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 04:15
AJ could/should have pushed his promoters more to get it agreed but when he’s seeing deadlines on Insta and Tyson saying the fight isn’t happening he’s probably more inclined to believe his team can’t get the fight done.
I agree with the first part but the second part is a poor excuse.
As I've said all along, if Joshua wanted to fight he wouldn't have instructed his team to stop returning calls and the fight would have been made.
I've already stated that as well in the thread, they're all at fault, Fury, Warren, Hearn and Joshua.
I'm out now.
Fury's fault is giving Joshua fanboys an excuse to latch on to.
Not sure what FW did wrong. It could be argued that he offered too generous a deal for a challenger coming off 3 losses in 5.
I've already stated that as well in the thread, they're all at fault, Fury, Warren, Hearn and Joshua.
I'm out now.
Fury's fault is giving Joshua fanboys an excuse to latch on to.
Not sure what FW did wrong. It could be argued that he offered too generous a deal for a challenger coming off 3 losses in 5.
Please answer this.......... why is everyone that disagrees with you on this, automatically an AJ fanboy?
BigDoofus wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 05:33
Not sure what FW did wrong. It could be argued that he offered too generous a deal for a challenger coming off 3 losses in 5.
Fair play to Frank, very gracious of him to give Chisora a deal coming off losing 3 of his last 4. Good like that Frank is.
maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Nov 2022, 12:04
Joshua decided he needed to rest after Fury signed to fight Chisora. Who knows when he’ll return now. I’d imagine it’d be before May.
You believe that he was going to fight in December (even though he wasn't training and his trainer was on a different Continent) and now, after Fury's "stupid games", needs a rest until May.
Sounds convincing.
This is easy to explain away, unlike some of your positions.
December wasn’t the ideal time, but he would have taken the fight because it was too good an opportunity to miss.
Now that opportunity isn’t there (if it ever was) courtesy of your heroes arbitrary deadlines, he can revert back to his ideal schedule.
BigDoofus wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 05:33
Not sure what FW did wrong. It could be argued that he offered too generous a deal for a challenger coming off 3 losses in 5.
Fair play to Frank, very gracious of him to give Chisora a deal coming off losing 3 of his last 4. Good like that Frank is.
It reminds me of Jesse Ferguson against Bowe, but at least he beat Mercer.
BigDoofus wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 05:33
Not sure what FW did wrong. It could be argued that he offered too generous a deal for a challenger coming off 3 losses in 5.
Fair play to Frank, very gracious of him to give Chisora a deal coming off losing 3 of his last 4. Good like that Frank is.
They've both won 2 out of the last 5 but I was referring to the 40-60 split.
Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:19
This is easy to explain away, unlike some of your positions.
December wasn’t the ideal time, but he would have taken the fight because it was too good an opportunity to miss.
Now that opportunity isn’t there (if it ever was) courtesy of your heroes arbitrary deadlines, he can revert back to his ideal schedule.
His ideal schedule was fighting this year but someone setting a deadline has "increased the mental pressure of being AJ". In other words he bottled it.
It can hardly be ideal preparation for Fury trying to train for this fight with both BigDoofus and Mickey1975 swinging from his sweaty knacker sac(Mickey claims to weigh 19 stone and to be 6 feet 4 inches in height. I have no idea what Doofus' dimensions are, although calling himself Big might be a clue).
Frostieballs wrote: ↑06 Nov 2022, 08:19
This is easy to explain away, unlike some of your positions.
December wasn’t the ideal time, but he would have taken the fight because it was too good an opportunity to miss.
Now that opportunity isn’t there (if it ever was) courtesy of your heroes arbitrary deadlines, he can revert back to his ideal schedule.
His ideal schedule was fighting this year but someone setting a deadline has "increased the mental pressure of being AJ". In other words he bottled it.
No… his ideal schedule was maybe next year, but he would have changed that for the opportunity to fight Fury…
