RJJ at Heavy
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keithmoonhangover
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RJJ at Heavy
Which lineal heavyweight champions do you think he would beat?
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Teddy's Toupee
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Sullivan, Corbett, Fitzsimmons, Jefferies, Hart, Burns, Willard, Dempsey, Schemling, Sharkey, Carnera, Braddock, Johansson, Spinks(Leon), Muhammad Ali(3), Rahman.
Re: RJJ at Heavy
Hart, Burns, Carnera... Those are his best and only chances.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
beats a lot of the earliest champs
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Is nothing sacred, brother? If you put Jones in a time machine back to the 1919, with no PEDs, a simple diet, the hot sun and Dempey with his killer instinct, I don't think Roy could cope.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
The Jones that fought Ruiz.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought
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Teddy's Toupee
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Beats Dempsey.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11The Jones that fought Ruiz.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought![]()
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22Beats Dempsey.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11The Jones that fought Ruiz.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought![]()
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Without the juice Fitz sparks him. Maybe even with the juice. Don't see Jones going 45 rounds with Willard. Rahman needs just one right hand.,margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:33no chance against soaking weight 165 pound bob fitz? willard? neon leon? rahman?
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Dempsey is way too much for him.
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Wee Tommy
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought
Re: RJJ at Heavy
He would beat the majority of fighters up to the Dempsey times. Jack would have a too good delivery of his huge power, so it's a bad matchup for Roy.
Then he could deal with the mix of champs between Tunney and Louis. Although Baer would also have a solid puncher's chance.
In the later times he would beat Leon Spinks and Shannon Briggs, maybe also Michael Spinks and George Foreman of the 90s (if not got caught).
Then he could deal with the mix of champs between Tunney and Louis. Although Baer would also have a solid puncher's chance.
In the later times he would beat Leon Spinks and Shannon Briggs, maybe also Michael Spinks and George Foreman of the 90s (if not got caught).
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:22Beats Dempsey.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 16:11The Jones that fought Ruiz.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Nov 2022, 15:45 are we talking about the roy jones who actually existed, or a fictional one we make various changes to based on the era his opponent fought![]()
Re: RJJ at Heavy
Mike Tyson.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.
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Teddy's Toupee
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.
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Teddy's Toupee
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 06:28
What about Dempsey on juice, now that is a scary thought.
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If Dempsey's left hook missed Jones the breeze from the shot would drop Roy.
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Teddy's Toupee
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
You have to be kidding.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27
Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.
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Teddy's Toupee
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
No.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 12:15You have to be kidding.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54
He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: RJJ at Heavy
Ha'way man Teddy. Tunney was the consummate boxer.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 11:03Tunney wasn't highly skilled, he was just one of the first old-timers to utilise effectively that modern day staple the jab.keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:54He decked the highly skilled Gene Tunney, so he would be in with the slicksters. I would pick him over Charles, Walcott, Marciano, Patterson, Ingo, Neon Leon and Rahman. I would even give him a shot against Fury, if Wilder the Windmill could knock him down numerous time, there's no reason Jack couldn't and if it was before the eight count, he would put Fury down permanently.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑10 Nov 2022, 10:27
Makes no difference. He defence was just too crude to compete with more modern boxers. He'd get outboxed and probably stopped by every lineal heavyweight champ after and including Joe Louis.