Spud wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 12:42
If I had anything to do with Okolie I would be going f*cking nuts regarding the frequency of his fights.
I suspect Okolie is asking for a lot of money to
Fight and asking to be top the bill. My guess is he cant sell out a phone box.
Something has got to give.
He’s backed himself into a corner so either needs to wait for his contract to finish, get Boxxer to buy him out or take his contractual fight minimum to fight with Matchroom.
Regardless of a contract dispute or not, Okolie needs to be active.
Spud wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 12:42
If I had anything to do with Okolie I would be going f*cking nuts regarding the frequency of his fights.
I suspect Okolie is asking for a lot of money to
Fight and asking to be top the bill. My guess is he cant sell out a phone box.
Something has got to give.
He’s backed himself into a corner so either needs to wait for his contract to finish, get Boxxer to buy him out or take his contractual fight minimum to fight with Matchroom.
Regardless of a contract dispute or not, Okolie needs to be active.
For the sake of his career he needs to move on.
We're not dealing with a boxer who sells 1000's of tickets or PPV buys, he is unknown outside of the sport and if he doesn't get himself into a meaningful fight might as well give it up
Spud wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 12:42
If I had anything to do with Okolie I would be going f*cking nuts regarding the frequency of his fights.
I suspect Okolie is asking for a lot of money to
Fight and asking to be top the bill. My guess is he cant sell out a phone box.
Something has got to give.
He’s backed himself into a corner so either needs to wait for his contract to finish, get Boxxer to buy him out or take his contractual fight minimum to fight with Matchroom.
Regardless of a contract dispute or not, Okolie needs to be active.
For the sake of his career he needs to move on.
I agree but his promoter will think they’ve done well by him (and from the outside they did) so won’t release him for nothing and he’s gone so far in what he’s said that he’s unlikely to fight on a Matchroom show again.
Eddie was saying they offered him a fight on the Abu Dhabi show which he didn’t accept. Probably against a crap opponent for his contractual minimum. He may have been best off just taking it and moving on.
Okolies not the sharpest knife in the box frankly - admitted he thought his contract was up however had to be told he had one more fight to do ... can he count ?
This is the same guy a few years ago was spouting about fighting Dillian Whyte
Just stop pissin around and get in the ring with Breidis / Riakhpore / CBS etc and show us how fuuckin amazing you are .
It might be down to 258s bad advice. Joshua , okole and buatsi all fight very rarely. Could be they’re all being advised that they are worth a lot more than they actually are ??
high tower 1 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 15:36
It might be down to 258s bad advice. Joshua , okole and buatsi all fight very rarely. Could be they’re all being advised that they are worth a lot more than they actually are ??
I think it's fair for ages to find twice a year when I was heavyweight champion. It's not what I would change, but it has been away for several champions since the Tyson era. Maybe Buatsi is just waiting for the right opportunity to present itself. Okolie is duller than the paint work on a 10-year old car, so I'm glad he isn't boxing very often.
high tower 1 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 15:36
It might be down to 258s bad advice. Joshua , okole and buatsi all fight very rarely. Could be they’re all being advised that they are worth a lot more than they actually are ??
What is Buatsi doing with his career, been a pro 6 years and only had 16 fights and only one in the last 15 months.
Why isn’t he fighting Arthur or Yarde or Hosea Burton or even just keep busy fights to bring him along.
high tower 1 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 15:36
It might be down to 258s bad advice. Joshua , okole and buatsi all fight very rarely. Could be they’re all being advised that they are worth a lot more than they actually are ??
What is Buatsi doing with his career, been a pro 6 years and only had 16 fights and only one in the last 15 months.
Why isn’t he fighting Arthur or Yarde or Hosea Burton or even just keep busy fights to bring him along.
It is pretty wild. Buatsi is good, was hyped and has just stalled out. and now the title holders are both too scary for him i think.
Really should have fought Yard/callum smith/callum johnson/lyndon arthor for english/euro. all those fights could have been small card headliners or big card 2nd main fight.
Seriously whats his plan? Beter B has yard then undisputed. Bivol has canelo or rest then undisputed. Canelo wont fight him randomly for no belt.
Its hard to see him getting a great fight 2023, mabey his goal isnt a good fight or even a money fight, mabey his goal is a weak vacant title shot and he just wants to be an undefeated world champ and can then make a good living cherrypicking weak opponents main events and headlineing cards in england. not a bad carrer option honestly...
That could well be his plan but his only vaguely world level fight was Richards who maybe is more of a European level operator
Would you pick Buatsi to beat anyone in the top 10 or top 15 which he’ll have to do to claim an alphabet title ?
I wonder if some of our Olympic medalists have an inflated idea of their own ability and potential as pros based on their achievements as amateurs when it could be argued that the huge investment in training and facilities by team GB gives them a notable advantage over boxers from other countries. Had Buatsi competed for Ghana for example would he have achieved so much as an amateur ?
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 07:14
That could well be his plan but his only vaguely world level fight was Richards who maybe is more of a European level operator
Would you pick Buatsi to beat anyone in the top 10 or top 15 which he’ll have to do to claim an alphabet title ?
I wonder if some of our Olympic medalists have an inflated idea of their own ability and potential as pros based on their achievements as amateurs when it could be argued that the huge investment in training and facilities by team GB gives them a notable advantage over boxers from other countries. Had Buatsi competed for Ghana for example would he have achieved so much as an amateur ?
they saw what the likes of Audley got and automatically thought they would be entitled to the same
Maybe Dana White is on to something paying his guys the bare minimum, big fights just no getting made enough, it's no coincidence the little guys always fight each other, I'd rather fighters got paid a pittance and fought regularly, don't expect many to agree but I'm into competitive sport not charity work, let the managers worry about the wages, the ABCs really need to start putting pressure on promoters
handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Nov 2022, 07:39
Maybe Dana White is on to something paying his guys the bare minimum, big fights just no getting made enough, it's no coincidence the little guys always fight each other, I'd rather fighters got paid a pittance and fought regularly, don't expect many to agree but I'm into competitive sport not charity work, let the managers worry about the wages, the ABCs really need to start putting pressure on promoters
it gets to the point with fighters like Okolie / Buatsi that its seems so long since I saw them in decent fights I am struggling to even remember them and who they fought ... never mind if they had any decent skill set .
Fighting once in a blue moon just isnt enough sorry boys .
high tower 1 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2022, 15:36
It might be down to 258s bad advice. Joshua , okole and buatsi all fight very rarely. Could be they’re all being advised that they are worth a lot more than they actually are ??
What is Buatsi doing with his career, been a pro 6 years and only had 16 fights and only one in the last 15 months.
Why isn’t he fighting Arthur or Yarde or Hosea Burton or even just keep busy fights to bring him along.
Some very good questions.
Domestically it is stacked.
Plenty of options without even crossing the channel.
Maybe we don't know the whole story though. Could have a niggling injury or things outseif the ring.
Seems a shame though, I think he has potential.
Apparently he had 1 fight left with Hearn and wanted to scrap it and join somewhere else. He eventually agreed to do the Hearn fight and now is getting ignored when asking for his date.
