Oleksandr Usyk vs. Filip Hrgovic - IBF Ordered

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Cyclops]

Seen on social media that Usyk is vacating and it'll be AJ vs Hrgovic for the title.

Alright, I'll bite.

I checked the IBF rankings and they have Hrgovic number 1 contender and number 2 'vacant'. I assume that's to allow Matchroom to buy the number 2 spot for AJ so that if Usyk drops the belt (which he should) then Joshua gets to fight for his favourite belt back in his comeback fight against Hrg.

Dunno who your sources are on social media but it sounds vaguely familiar doesn't it? I reckon Hrgovic is better than Charles Martin though.

[Verdi]

Seen on social media that Usyk is vacating and it'll be AJ vs Hrgovic for the title.

Alright, I'll bite.

I checked the IBF rankings and they have Hrgovic number 1 contender and number 2 'vacant'. I assume that's to allow Matchroom to buy the number 2 spot for AJ so that if Usyk drops the belt (which he should) then Joshua gets to fight for his favourite belt back in his comeback fight against Hrg.

Dunno who your sources are on social media but it sounds vaguely familiar doesn't it? I reckon Hrgovic is better than Charles Martin though.

It was on a group on FB called 'Boxing TV' who looking at the post seem to take articles like this as gospel.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... acate.html

[Thomastearns]

You can almost smell Hearn's desperation in wanting those HW titles back in the Matchroom trophy cabinet.

Bruh, what? You think Hearn is pressing for Usyk - Hrgovic because he wants Hrgovic to win? That's absolutely not what's going on here. Hearn is pushing to get paid maximum step-aside money. He's trying trying to play the hardest hardball so that Fury and/or Usyk will pay him at least $5-10 million to step aside. You've been following boxing for a while, right? You know that Hrgovic has 0 chance of beating Usyk, right? He couldn't even convincingly beat Zhilei Zhang.

Maybe, maybe not.

Either way it's win-win for Hearn.

Of course Hrgovic has zero chance of outboxing Usyk, but with HW boxing there's always an element of uncertainty.

At the very least Eddie will get a sniff of those belts once more.

The real big question is whether Usyk would vacate the IBF belt. There are already rumours suggesting that he might.

If Hearn can leverage that, then Joshua v Hrgovic for the IBF belt is on as he already co-promotes the latter.

It looks like Hearn has got all the angles covered here after the rematch clause failed to work in AJ v Usyk 2.

Seriously this sport is full of so much chicanery and so many shysters that it's difficult, if not impossible to ever know whats really going on.

In this instance, I'd prefer Usyk to vacate the IBF but only if he can secure the Fury fight.

That way the winners of Usyk v Fury and Joshua v Hrgovic could face off in the second half of next year.

Knowing Fury a little better as Usyk does now, is that that a gamble his team are willing to take?

[wrighty]

Usyk 12-0.

Yes basically it's a well paid boxing lesson for Hrgovic.

Or a clever way for Hearn to give AJ another chance to regain his belts.

The fight that these crookedly self-serving sanctioning bodies should be ordering is Usyk v Fury.

I doubt whether even Hrgovic would complain about that.

How about Hrgovic v Joshua in the meantime?

As they say, a win-win situation for the people that matter, the people that happen to pay everyone's wages, the people that keep the sport alive - the fans.

Did they ever fight in the ams? I'm gutted Hrgovic didn't fight Joyce for the European. That had fireworks written over it.

[wrighty]

You can almost smell Hearn's desperation in wanting those HW titles back in the Matchroom trophy cabinet.

Bruh, what? You think Hearn is pressing for Usyk - Hrgovic because he wants Hrgovic to win? That's absolutely not what's going on here. Hearn is pushing to get paid maximum step-aside money. He's trying trying to play the hardest hardball so that Fury and/or Usyk will pay him at least $5-10 million to step aside. You've been following boxing for a while, right? You know that Hrgovic has 0 chance of beating Usyk, right? He couldn't even convincingly beat Zhilei Zhang.

Maybe, maybe not.

Either way it's win-win for Hearn.

Of course Hrgovic has zero chance of outboxing Usyk, but with HW boxing there's always an element of uncertainty.

At the very least Eddie will get a sniff of those belts once more.

The real big question is whether Usyk would vacate the IBF belt. There are already rumours suggesting that he might.

If Hearn can leverage that, then Joshua v Hrgovic for the IBF belt is on as he already co-promotes the latter.

It looks like Hearn has got all the angles covered here after the rematch clause failed to work in AJ v Usyk 2.

Seriously this sport is full of so much chicanery and so many shysters that it's difficult, if not impossible to ever know whats really going on.

In this instance, I'd prefer Usyk to vacate the IBF but only if he can secure the Fury fight.

That way the winners of Usyk v Fury and Joshua v Hrgovic could face off in the second half of next year.

Knowing Fury a little better as Usyk does now, is that that a gamble his team are willing to take?

There would be the WBC issue with Ruiz Wilder but I doubt they would block it

[Lackeos]

You can almost smell Hearn's desperation in wanting those HW titles back in the Matchroom trophy cabinet.

Bruh, what? You think Hearn is pressing for Usyk - Hrgovic because he wants Hrgovic to win? That's absolutely not what's going on here. Hearn is pushing to get paid maximum step-aside money. He's trying trying to play the hardest hardball so that Fury and/or Usyk will pay him at least $5-10 million to step aside. You've been following boxing for a while, right? You know that Hrgovic has 0 chance of beating Usyk, right? He couldn't even convincingly beat Zhilei Zhang.

Maybe, maybe not.

Either way it's win-win for Hearn.

Of course Hrgovic has zero chance of outboxing Usyk, but with HW boxing there's always an element of uncertainty.

At the very least Eddie will get a sniff of those belts once more.

The real big question is whether Usyk would vacate the IBF belt. There are already rumours suggesting that he might.

If Hearn can leverage that, then Joshua v Hrgovic for the IBF belt is on as he already co-promotes the latter.

It looks like Hearn has got all the angles covered here after the rematch clause failed to work in AJ v Usyk 2.

Seriously this sport is full of so much chicanery and so many shysters that it's difficult, if not impossible to ever know whats really going on.

In this instance, I'd prefer Usyk to vacate the IBF but only if he can secure the Fury fight.

That way the winners of Usyk v Fury and Joshua v Hrgovic could face off in the second half of next year.

Knowing Fury a little better as Usyk does now, is that that a gamble his team are willing to take?

That is much more 3-D thinking, and I think you're getting closer to the truth this time.

[coneye]

Usyk would be crazy to vacate just too fight Fury UNLESS he managed to secure some sort of water tight contract Prior to vacating without the belt Fury would just say i don't need him and go after Hrgovic himself ,, whats more he would get the fight over AJ

[IRONFIST]

Filipping heck! What a naff fight.

[The Asleep Lamps]

I'm not giving Hearn any more money until we have ONE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION!

[Thomastearns]

Usyk would be crazy to vacate just too fight Fury UNLESS he managed to secure some sort of water tight contract Prior to vacating without the belt Fury would just say i don't need him and go after Hrgovic himself ,, whats more he would get the fight over AJ

That's the problem.

With Fury anything is possible.

As you say, it would have to be watertight. Money is the only language TF understands.

Fury's already once managed to wriggle out of the Klitschko rematch whilst at the same time he was facing a drugs charge.

Coated in Teflon with a layer of grease as added protection is the self proclaimed Gypsy King.

An incredibly hard customer to nail inside or outside the ring.

It's not looking good for a reunification fight anytime soon.

The only good sign is that the Usyk camp need a fight and if they can't get Fury then they'll have to take Hrgovic and maybe Wilder next!

[HomicideHenry]

Once again the ibf rears it's ugly head just like they did with Tyson Fury back in 2015 which caused the undisputed title to be fractured. I swear the corruption or dumbassery in boxing is beyond sickening.

[DrDuke]

Usyk should make the Fury fight, even if he gets stripped of IBF. Everyone will accept the man, if he defeats the best opposition around. No one cares about accidental belt-holders. Does someone rate Charles Martin, Bermane Stiverne or John Ruiz, who picked vacant straps? Fury and Usyk will get more profit with fighting each other than random mandatories.

[gregregegg]

IBF insnt to blame, its the fuking rematch clauses going around these days...

-Fury and AJ were champ together 18 months, plenty of time to unify but they didnt.

-Usyk and Fury have been champ together for 14 months... still no unification.

-Befor that wilder was rematching ortiz while AJ was rematching ruiz.

Without rematch clauses we would of got undisputed end of 2019, 2021, and 2022....

[Ruthless-RKO]

Filip Hrgovic Wants “Immediate Purse Bid” For Shot At Usyk

Hrgovic’s promoter, Kalle Sauerland, spoke with Sky Sports, and he said he and his fighter have called for “an immediate purse bid” with regards to a Usyk-Hrgovic fight. This of course could mess things up as far as us getting to see Usyk and Fury duke it out for all four heavyweight belts. But Sauerland is adamant his guy must have his shot.

“Hold on, they [the IBF] called for Tyson Fury versus [Vyacheslav Glazkov] the Monday after the Klitschko fight after he [Fury] beat the man who had the title for ten years. So this is what the IBF do,” Sauerland said with regards to how stringent the IBF can be with when it comes to there mandatory defences. “They come down on the letter of the law. We expect them to do that. We called for an immediate purse bid.”

Sauerland went on to say that he is “not in the Usyk business,” that he is instead “in the Hrgovic game and ‘El Animal’ will get that shot.”
So, it seems Hrgovic will not budge, Usyk will have to fight him or risk being stripped of the IBF belt the way Fury was striped shortly after he had won it, along with the WBA, WBO and IBO belts, back in November of 2015.

Boxing politics can spoil things, as we know, but Hrgovic, currently 15-0(12), IS entitled to his shot at the IBF belt. The 30 year old earned it. We will now have to wait and see what Usyk does; whether he agrees to fight Hrgovic or decides to vacate the belt. A Fury-Usyk fight would of course still be a big, and incredibly intriguing fight without the IBF belt being on the line, but there is something special about the idea of seeing a for-all-the-marbles, four-belt heavyweight unification clash.

We may not get it now.

[oogiebe]

Hrg has earned diddlysquat,

[Thomastearns]

Hrg has earned diddlysquat,

Going on his last showing Hrgovic has exposed himself as mediocre HW at best.

This is a totally unnecessary fight and Sauerland is using the same lame excuse that Hrgovic's co promoter Hearn recently used.

We understand that they represent their own fighter and we understand that they will never turn their noses up at easy money but let's not have any more crap about them giving us fans the fights that we want.

Fights like Fury v Chisora and Usyk v Hrgovic are ok to watch on YouTube the next day but no one should feel any great need to pay any extra money for them.

If you can't/won't deliver a great product, then we'll take our money to someone else who can.

PPV is a dark featureless cul de sac down which boxing is threatening to completely lose itself.

It's really up to the fans to not support any more bullshit by refusing to pay to see Usyk give Hrgovic a 12 round boxing lesson.

These boxing promoters are now getting devious as our own governments at squeezing us all for more cash.

They're both definitely working very hard for someone, no question, but it's not us.

[oogiebe]

Hrg has earned diddlysquat,

Going on his last showing Hrgovic has exposed himself as mediocre HW at best.

This is a totally unnecessary fight and Sauerland is using the same lame excuse that Hrgovic's co promoter Hearn recently used.

We understand that they represent their own fighter and we understand that they will never turn their noses up at easy money but let's not have any more crap about them giving us fans the fights that we want.

Fights like Fury v Chisora and Usyk v Hrgovic are ok to watch on YouTube the next day but no one should feel any great need to pay any extra money for them.

If you can't/won't deliver a great product, then we'll take our money to someone else who can.

PPV is a dark featureless cul de sac down which boxing is threatening to completely lose itself.

It's really up to the fans to not support any more bullshit by refusing to pay to see Usyk give Hrgovic a 12 round boxing lesson.

These boxing promoters are now getting devious as our own governments at squeezing us all for more cash.

They're both definitely working very hard for someone, no question, but it's not us.

100%. I've been his worse critic here.

[adislav123]

i don't see usyk having an easy evening with hrgovic.

[Nightmare Roy]

i don't see usyk having an easy evening with hrgovic.

I do, he's bang average

[oogiebe]

i don't see usyk having an easy evening with hrgovic.

I do, he's bang average

Yup.

[margaret thatcher]

usyk all wrong for a low paced plodder/clubber, which is what hrg's turned into

[morm]

Hrgovic never has 2 bad fights in the row, so now Usyk be worry...Hrg coming for your Belts
I dont be suprice if Usyka drop the Belt

[margaret thatcher]

Hrgovic never has 2 bad fights in the row, so now Usyk be worry...Hrg coming for your Belts
I dont be suprice if Usyka drop the Belt

he also never fights 2 decent opponents in a row

[morm]

hahaha you change your mind ...sun