Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III | BT PPV - 3 December 2022

[Ruthless-RKO]

Why couldn’t they have just done the AO arena or o2 arena.

What they tryna prove?

If it wasn’t the Principality in Dec then there’s no point using another stadium.

[keithmoonhangover]

I’ve got a feeling this fight may be pulled in fight week and blamed on illness or a small injury. Del will get fucked over, FWarren won’t lose face and millions and Tyson goes into an undisputed fight in April.

Exactly this. It just has that smell about it.

[maverick23]

I’ve got a feeling this fight may be pulled in fight week and blamed on illness or a small injury. Del will get fucked over, FWarren won’t lose face and millions and Tyson goes into an undisputed fight in April.

Cmon it’s not gonna sell on PPV and it’s pretty obvious that at least half of the 50k sold on the first day were bought by touts.

If the weather is bad… which is highly likely… most people with tickets might bail anyways. It’s hard attending a football game you are truly invested in over the winters and that’s a couple of hours. So much downtime with boxing events… it’s gonna be hell.

What the hell happens to the people who have got 200 quid tickets to sit on the floor if it rains… no madmen can deal with that for too long.

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

[keithmoonhangover]

I’ve got a feeling this fight may be pulled in fight week and blamed on illness or a small injury. Del will get fucked over, FWarren won’t lose face and millions and Tyson goes into an undisputed fight in April.

Cmon it’s not gonna sell on PPV and it’s pretty obvious that at least half of the 50k sold on the first day were bought by touts.

If the weather is bad… which is highly likely… most people with tickets might bail anyways. It’s hard attending a football game you are truly invested in over the winters and that’s a couple of hours. So much downtime with boxing events… it’s gonna be hell.

What the hell happens to the people who have got 200 quid tickets to sit on the floor if it rains… no madmen can deal with that for too long.

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

[pinklady]

I'd actually forgot it's next week,sitting in freezing rain, it's going to be a long miserable night.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[polecateddy]

I’ve got a feeling this fight may be pulled in fight week and blamed on illness or a small injury. Del will get fucked over, FWarren won’t lose face and millions and Tyson goes into an undisputed fight in April.

Cmon it’s not gonna sell on PPV and it’s pretty obvious that at least half of the 50k sold on the first day were bought by touts.

If the weather is bad… which is highly likely… most people with tickets might bail anyways. It’s hard attending a football game you are truly invested in over the winters and that’s a couple of hours. So much downtime with boxing events… it’s gonna be hell.

What the hell happens to the people who have got 200 quid tickets to sit on the floor if it rains… no madmen can deal with that for too long.

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Lewis v Bruno was (a far better fight) and on the 1st October open air. Lewis nearly froze to death I think. This is just a naff fight which presumably would have been a bit dubious to sanction in previous eras.

[tony1234]

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Lewis v Bruno was (a far better fight) and on the 1st October open air. Lewis nearly froze to death I think. This is just a naff fight which presumably would have been a bit dubious to sanction in previous eras.

Wasn't it raining hard ? I remember watching it and feeling sorry for anyone sat there getting soaked. But anyone buying a ticket to sit outside in December to watch this fight needs sectioning

[maverick23]

I’ve got a feeling this fight may be pulled in fight week and blamed on illness or a small injury. Del will get fucked over, FWarren won’t lose face and millions and Tyson goes into an undisputed fight in April.

Cmon it’s not gonna sell on PPV and it’s pretty obvious that at least half of the 50k sold on the first day were bought by touts.

If the weather is bad… which is highly likely… most people with tickets might bail anyways. It’s hard attending a football game you are truly invested in over the winters and that’s a couple of hours. So much downtime with boxing events… it’s gonna be hell.

What the hell happens to the people who have got 200 quid tickets to sit on the floor if it rains… no madmen can deal with that for too long.

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Eddie always described it as Joshua (when he was on Sky PPV) having ownership of the show. So income, less costs and the bulk of what’s left goes to AJ with Eddie taking a percentage too.

It’s a fair way to do it and when AJ was getting
1m+ buys and 80,000 seats regularly it would have meant some really big purses.

FW isn’t daft. I can’t think he’d given Tyson a £15m guarantee.

[keithmoonhangover]

There will be somewhere between 40-60k in there I think. Given the ticket prices I’d be surprised if people that bought tickets didn’t turn up due to the weather. Some will miss but I’d imagine it’d be a low %.

Even if there are 40,000 that’s still a very good crowd and, given ticket prices, would probably bring in decent money.

I’d imagine the fight would do something like 300-350k buys in the U.K. so that’s the best part of £8m before BT take their cut. Plus the income from ESPN.

As long as Tyson’s not expecting £20m then there will still be enough to go around and he’d probably pocket £5m. If Frank’s on the hook to pay him £10m+ then it might be getting pulled.

I don’t think I’ve known a big fight with as little buzz about it. I had a couple of mates message me saying there’s no way they’d be getting it at £27 and they’re the same guys that came with me to watch Tyson fight Klitschko. My more casual boxing fan mates either didn’t know the fight was happening next week or they won’t be buying it as they see it for what it is - an overpriced one sided mismatch.

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Eddie always described it as Joshua (when he was on Sky PPV) having ownership of the show. So income, less costs and the bulk of what’s left goes to AJ with Eddie taking a percentage too.

It’s a fair way to do it and when AJ was getting
1m+ buys and 80,000 seats regularly it would have meant some really big purses.

FW isn’t daft. I can’t think he’d given Tyson a £15m guarantee.

FW has got a lot of money to spend since the Fury-Whyte fight, but he could blow his nuts in on this one.

[maverick23]

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Lewis v Bruno was (a far better fight) and on the 1st October open air. Lewis nearly froze to death I think. This is just a naff fight which presumably would have been a bit dubious to sanction in previous eras.

Wasn't it raining hard ? I remember watching it and feeling sorry for anyone sat there getting soaked. But anyone buying a ticket to sit outside in December to watch this fight needs sectioning

I’ve been drenched a couple of times at stadium shows. Haye/Chisora and Haye/Klitschko. Both were in the summer and it was annoying but at least it wasn’t freezing cold too. If it’s 5 degrees, wet and windy then it’s going to be a slog for those pitch side.

[maverick23]

Surely Tyson will be asking for the kind of money Joshua used to get against the likes of Takam and Povetkin. (A stadium fight vs AN Other) I think £20M was mentioned at the time. I just don't see the numbers adding up.

How many December open air stadium fights have there been in the UK previously?

Eddie always described it as Joshua (when he was on Sky PPV) having ownership of the show. So income, less costs and the bulk of what’s left goes to AJ with Eddie taking a percentage too.

It’s a fair way to do it and when AJ was getting
1m+ buys and 80,000 seats regularly it would have meant some really big purses.

FW isn’t daft. I can’t think he’d given Tyson a £15m guarantee.

FW has got a lot of money to spend since the Fury-Whyte fight, but he could blow his nuts in on this one.

What makes you think he’s got a lot of money to spend?

[keithmoonhangover]

Eddie always described it as Joshua (when he was on Sky PPV) having ownership of the show. So income, less costs and the bulk of what’s left goes to AJ with Eddie taking a percentage too.

It’s a fair way to do it and when AJ was getting
1m+ buys and 80,000 seats regularly it would have meant some really big purses.

FW isn’t daft. I can’t think he’d given Tyson a £15m guarantee.

FW has got a lot of money to spend since the Fury-Whyte fight, but he could blow his nuts in on this one.

What makes you think he’s got a lot of money to spend?

Because the Fury-Whyte find was almost a sellout, and was PPV. Am I oversimplifying?

[maverick23]

FW has got a lot of money to spend since the Fury-Whyte fight, but he could blow his nuts in on this one.

What makes you think he’s got a lot of money to spend?

Because the Fury-Whyte find was almost a sellout, and was PPV. Am I oversimplifying?

The purses of the 2 fighters was $41m so £34m. Either Tyson took a lot less or Frank wouldn’t have made much at all.

[keithmoonhangover]

What makes you think he’s got a lot of money to spend?

Because the Fury-Whyte find was almost a sellout, and was PPV. Am I oversimplifying?

The purses of the 2 fighters was $41m so £34m. Either Tyson took a lot less or Frank wouldn’t have made much at all.

There's still plenty of cheddar left after that, surely. PPV, US revenue, international sales etc.

[maverick23]

Because the Fury-Whyte find was almost a sellout, and was PPV. Am I oversimplifying?

The purses of the 2 fighters was $41m so £34m. Either Tyson took a lot less or Frank wouldn’t have made much at all.

There's still plenty of cheddar left after that, surely. PPV, US revenue, international sales etc.

When you factor in the TV company taking their PPV commission, it reportedly doing 750k U.K. buys and not much in the US, the costs of promoting, undercard (not much), stadium here (granted they did great on tickets with this), I can’t see how Frank made a killing.

Who knows though.

[keithmoonhangover]

The purses of the 2 fighters was $41m so £34m. Either Tyson took a lot less or Frank wouldn’t have made much at all.

There's still plenty of cheddar left after that, surely. PPV, US revenue, international sales etc.

When you factor in the TV company taking their PPV commission, it reportedly doing 750k U.K. buys and not much in the US, the costs of promoting, undercard (not much), stadium here (granted they did great on tickets with this), I can’t see how Frank made a killing.

Who knows though.

As much as I'm not a fan, FW knows his onions and perhaps the most telling sign is him putting another UK Fury fight on.

[maverick23]

There's still plenty of cheddar left after that, surely. PPV, US revenue, international sales etc.

When you factor in the TV company taking their PPV commission, it reportedly doing 750k U.K. buys and not much in the US, the costs of promoting, undercard (not much), stadium here (granted they did great on tickets with this), I can’t see how Frank made a killing.

Who knows though.

As much as I'm not a fan, FW knows his onions and perhaps the most telling sign is him putting another UK Fury fight on.

Frank knows what he’s doing but his companies have been in administration more than anyone else I’ve seen in boxing.

I’d say it’s more likely to be Fury wanting to be active and wanting a decent payday which this will still be.

[keithmoonhangover]

When you factor in the TV company taking their PPV commission, it reportedly doing 750k U.K. buys and not much in the US, the costs of promoting, undercard (not much), stadium here (granted they did great on tickets with this), I can’t see how Frank made a killing.

Who knows though.

As much as I'm not a fan, FW knows his onions and perhaps the most telling sign is him putting another UK Fury fight on.

Frank knows what he’s doing but his companies have been in administration more than anyone else I’ve seen in boxing.

I’d say it’s more likely to be Fury wanting to be active and wanting a decent payday which this will still be.

You think FW would put the event on if he didn't think it was going to make money?

[maverick23]

As much as I'm not a fan, FW knows his onions and perhaps the most telling sign is him putting another UK Fury fight on.

Frank knows what he’s doing but his companies have been in administration more than anyone else I’ve seen in boxing.

I’d say it’s more likely to be Fury wanting to be active and wanting a decent payday which this will still be.

You think FW would put the event on if he didn't think it was going to make money?

No - of course not. That’s why I don’t think Fury will be getting a large guarantee on this fight with Chisora.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[Spud]

I fully expect for there to be antics at the work out and the weigh in to cause controversy and thus interest in the fight.

Fury & Chisora will be getting a low guaranteed sum … have no fears the promoters WILL not be making a loss.

The key to Fury’s and Chisora wages will the amount of PPVs that sell and the fighters get a high percentage of the PPVs income.

David Haye got one of his highest purses when he fought Audley Harrison. If you remember Haye was constantly being controversial to gain more interest in the fight.

[keithmoonhangover]

I fully expect for there to be antics at the work out and the weigh in to cause controversy and thus interest in the fight.

Fury & Chisora will be getting a low guaranteed sum … have no fears the promoters WILL not be making a loss.

The key to Fury’s and Chisora wages will the amount of PPVs that sell and the fighters get a high percentage of the PPVs income.

David Haye got one of his highest purses when he fought Audley Harrison. If you remember Haye was constantly being controversial to gain more interest in the fight.

Chisora will have to throw a hell of a lot of tables to raise interest in this fight.

[tony1234]

I fully expect for there to be antics at the work out and the weigh in to cause controversy and thus interest in the fight.

Fury & Chisora will be getting a low guaranteed sum … have no fears the promoters WILL not be making a loss.

The key to Fury’s and Chisora wages will the amount of PPVs that sell and the fighters get a high percentage of the PPVs income.

David Haye got one of his highest purses when he fought Audley Harrison. If you remember Haye was constantly being controversial to gain more interest in the fight.

It will just be a repeat of what has been done before, trash talking and chucking a few things

[afcpaul]

I see chisora is borrowing Hattons zimmer frame for the ring walk.