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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Feel a bit sorry for Parker, he chucked it all in far too easily in the heat of the moment, and his corner weirdly didn’t really argue with him, they should’ve tried to persuade him to crack on and make it through ( near impossible for mere mortals, but normal for aspiring world champions ) he would’ve felt much better about it all today.. but you can see why JR’s nickname is the gorilla, he is a bit of a beast.

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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Good win for McCann over Ham, dominant in every round, Ham was tough but never in the fight, never tried to change things up or try something different, McCann was allowed to do as he pleased, he's got that wide southpaw stance, low lead hand and picked his shots nicely, the jab, straight left or the uppercuts, he started going through the gears after the middle rounds and was finding some big single shots, busted Ham's nose and rocked him with a huge uppercut in the 8th before teeing off in the corner, no complaints with the refs stoppage
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Noakes looked good in stopping McCord in 4, had him down 4 times, all from body shots, the first couple of rounds were fairly competitive, there wasn't much in punches landed but Noakes punches carried far more weight and after dropping him early in the 4th with a right to the body he never let McCord off the hook, just overwhelmed him with punches downstairs from both hands and put him down 3 more times ,great power and finishing from Noakes again
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Punch perfect from Sheeraz, really found a home for the right hand off the bat, was hitting Wilson-Bent clean with it and the long raking jab, was pounding him, Wilson-Bent looked like he'd went 12 rounds by the 2nd, he was taking a trimming and his eye was closing, you knew it was only a matter of time before Sheeraz got him out of there, sure enough at end of 2nd Sheeraz rained down punches on him to force him down, no point in it continuing Wilson-Bent was gonna get badly hurt, Sheeraz was quality
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Shocked at the ending of the Ryder/Parker fight, never noticed Parker broke his hand, he seemed to suggest it was on Ryder's head, it was a scrappy affair, a lot of holding and mauling, I had Ryder 3-1 up but it was just getting started he was beginning to control the pace and Parker was switching without too much effect, shame when fights are ended like that
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Very strange ending, only Parker will know why he retired instead of having a go. The amount of empty seats there was shocking, nobody can have sold many tickets
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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tony1234 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 08:50 Very strange ending, only Parker will know why he retired instead of having a go. The amount of empty seats there was shocking, nobody can have sold many tickets
I saw a couple of things on Twitter from people there saying there was around 3,000 people there. I think they even had the top tier on sale but dropped people into the lower tier.

There wasn’t much promotion for it either really. I saw far less about this than I did for the Matchroom show and Boxxer show today.

Frank W seems to have gone awol. I know he’s got issues with his back but nothing stopping him doing some bits via zoom/teams etc. I wonder if he’s winding things down - I guess we’ll find out this week. His son George seems to be a bright bloke but I saw an interview with Francis and he was saying they’d done really well with tickets.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Thing is Ryder can turn up the heat. He's a tough man and I've sparred men like that. You exert a ton of energy just keeping them off you. B he was moving a lot and looked good. No way he keepd that frenetic pace going for a full 12. Respect to John. Hope he makes some life changing money
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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maverick23 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 09:07
tony1234 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 08:50 Very strange ending, only Parker will know why he retired instead of having a go. The amount of empty seats there was shocking, nobody can have sold many tickets
I saw a couple of things on Twitter from people there saying there was around 3,000 people there. I think they even had the top tier on sale but dropped people into the lower tier.

There wasn’t much promotion for it either really. I saw far less about this than I did for the Matchroom show and Boxxer show today.

Frank W seems to have gone awol. I know he’s got issues with his back but nothing stopping him doing some bits via zoom/teams etc. I wonder if he’s winding things down - I guess we’ll find out this week. His son George seems to be a bright bloke but I saw an interview with Francis and he was saying they’d done really well with tickets.
I thought Parker was a big ticket seller which was why the empty seats surprised me but in hindsight the York Hall would have been far better or at a venue in Derby which would have not competed with the Whyte show
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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tony1234 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 08:50 Very strange ending, only Parker will know why he retired instead of having a go. The amount of empty seats there was shocking, nobody can have sold many tickets
Was strange having a trade fight at the O2 they often don't sell good. Alexander Palace/cooper box would have been better (maybe it was booked as well)
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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tony1234 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 09:32
maverick23 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 09:07
tony1234 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 08:50 Very strange ending, only Parker will know why he retired instead of having a go. The amount of empty seats there was shocking, nobody can have sold many tickets
I saw a couple of things on Twitter from people there saying there was around 3,000 people there. I think they even had the top tier on sale but dropped people into the lower tier.

There wasn’t much promotion for it either really. I saw far less about this than I did for the Matchroom show and Boxxer show today.

Frank W seems to have gone awol. I know he’s got issues with his back but nothing stopping him doing some bits via zoom/teams etc. I wonder if he’s winding things down - I guess we’ll find out this week. His son George seems to be a bright bloke but I saw an interview with Francis and he was saying they’d done really well with tickets.
I thought Parker was a big ticket seller which was why the empty seats surprised me but in hindsight the York Hall would have been far better or at a venue in Derby which would have not competed with the Whyte show
It should have been somewhere around the midlands. Avoids the localised show clashes and would have given his fans more of a chance to go.

I know that they had O2 reserved for Dubois but even still they need to be realistic. Having your headline fighter in a big fight 150 miles or so from their fan base, when times are tough nationwide was never going to work.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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magnus wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:00 Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
Plenty of arena’s that hold between 6k to 13k

Easily. Small, compact. Can get a good crowd in there too.

Good atmosphere.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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This was a much better card on paper than the Whyte/Franklin card, I watched the Whyte card live more out of convenience but was pretty surprised the RBR thread here only made 2 pages last night and DAZN made 10,
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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I don't think it was. As per my other thread, those vacant Commonwealth fights weren't exactly inspired match-ups.

Warren works with a load of decent domestic Super-Bantams, surely he could do better than Ham for McCann? Ham arguably no better than Beech Jnr.

Sheeraz should be well beyond the likes of Wilson-Bent.

Noakes vs McCord was a fair enough match on paper I suppose.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:33
magnus wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:00 Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
Plenty of arena’s that hold between 6k to 13k

Easily. Small, compact. Can get a good crowd in there too.

Good atmosphere.
6-13 is big. 2-5 are needed.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Fwank paid too much money to stage the fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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mickey1975 wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 17:01
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:33
magnus wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:00 Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
Plenty of arena’s that hold between 6k to 13k

Easily. Small, compact. Can get a good crowd in there too.

Good atmosphere.
6-13 is big. 2-5 are needed.
Fully agree. The Bournemouth show will probably be packed in a few weeks which is what they should be doing.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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I had it 3-1 Parker but it was clear the momentum was with Ryder.

You could get 11/4 on Ryder pre-fight on the exchange, up there with the craziest boxing odds I’ve seen. Wish I’d had more than £20 on it.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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samwbr wrote: 28 Nov 2022, 09:38
That looks bad tbf.
I'm sure he didn't want to quit. DDD got so much crap when he HAD to quit, looks like Parker probably DID have to quit with that too.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:33
magnus wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:00 Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
Plenty of arena’s that hold between 6k to 13k

Easily. Small, compact. Can get a good crowd in there too.

Good atmosphere.
Copper Box is ideal for fights like Parker v Ryder. Wembley Arena is about 12k too so doesn't look half as empty as the O2.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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MightyWarrior wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 06:20 Feel a bit sorry for Parker, he chucked it all in far too easily in the heat of the moment, and his corner weirdly didn’t really argue with him, they should’ve tried to persuade him to crack on and make it through ( near impossible for mere mortals, but normal for aspiring world champions ) he would’ve felt much better about it all today.. but you can see why JR’s nickname is the gorilla, he is a bit of a beast.

Fletch is excellent on commentary - the best of the lot right now, so good you don’t notice him. Ritchie is the same as ever, he never changes. Good lad though
Agree on Fletch being the best commentator. Seamless transition from footy to boxing.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Zach Parker vs, John Ryder | BT Sport - 26 November 2022

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Maxi_ wrote: 28 Nov 2022, 10:48
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:33
magnus wrote: 27 Nov 2022, 15:00 Promoters are obsessed with fights in big arenas now, seems to have escaped them how shitty it looks on TV when they are 3/4 empty.

I'm not saying to go back to the Bushfield Leisure Centre days (Thompson vs Dustan style) but surely there's a middle ground?
Plenty of arena’s that hold between 6k to 13k

Easily. Small, compact. Can get a good crowd in there too.

Good atmosphere.
Copper Box is ideal for fights like Parker v Ryder. Wembley Arena is about 12k too so doesn't look half as empty as the O2.
They gotta price them reasonable as well.
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