Bowers, Sims & Burns
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nobleart1978
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Bowers, Sims & Burns
Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
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smiling assassin
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
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GreenLightning
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Used to be just the local hoods and gangsters depending on the fight but now it's the supercartels and rogue terrorist states gaining controlsmiling assassin wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:01 Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
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Wfet about the hundreds if not thousands of kids adversely affected by their actions?smiling assassin wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 12:01 Boxing is full of people with criminal links and backgrounds. For what Tony Burns done for hundreds if not thousands of young kids is remarkable.
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Have you read 'Legacy: Gangsters, Corruption and the London Olympics'? Pretty eye-opening as well.nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 11:50 Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
i read it a couple of years back and felt like killing myself afterDeserter wrote: ↑02 Dec 2022, 07:52Have you read 'Legacy: Gangsters, Corruption and the London Olympics'? Pretty eye-opening as well.nobleart1978 wrote: ↑01 Dec 2022, 11:50 Just been reading the Operation Tiberius document which can be found on google.
It seems that these fine, upstanding boxing trainers are very naughty boys indeed.
Tony Burns of Repton has died I believe. Not the "saint" he liked to portray by any means.
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high tower 1
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
What did Tony burns get up to ?
Read that book. Very interesting.
Read that book. Very interesting.
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high tower 1
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Different Tony sims. Says born in the 60s on that doc.
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Tony was born in the 60s?
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margaret thatcher
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ya but tony is upstanding and would never have been a naughty boy
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Exactly why it makes me laugh when people say Conor Benn couldn’t be doping as Tony Sims wouldn’t stand for it
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high tower 1
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Spud
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
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Its good that you share your opinion, not everyone agrees, same as me,Spud wrote: ↑03 Dec 2022, 15:09I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
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JamesPhilips
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
Do you believe David Haye ever did PEDs or not?Spud wrote: ↑03 Dec 2022, 15:09I have openly supported Tony Sims and have been criticised for it.
I am not saying Tony is a saint, far from it.
However, what I am not budging on is my own personal experiences of Tony Sims. I have known Tony for 20 years, I met him on a number of occasions, especially when I was working for Mick Hennessy. Tony always said hello and treated me well and with respect.
I think the very first time I met Tony was at a Dinner show the week before Lennox Lewis fought Francois Botha. I believe Tony Sims and Tony Burns organised the show. I was invited to the show by Lennox’s promoter Panos Eliades.
Forum, I will not be dictated to and mocked on who I respect/like especially when that person has always treated me with respect and included me as part of the group.
I especially wont be dictated/mocked by people who continue to have strong views on all matters concerning boxing and Boxing personalities but yet hide behind a screen name yet are too cowardly to say who they are. I regard some of those
People as spineless ****s.
For 20+ years everyone in boxing knows me as Spud, and I have voiced strong opinions and indeed some people have disagreed with those opinions and said as such when they have approached me.
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Stevieaber
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Re: Bowers, Sims & Burns
I was aware that the Bowers had a bit of “a past” but didn’t know about Sims. Wouldn’t have him down as an ammonia thrower. Does make you wonder why the board issued him with a licence