Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Wee Tommy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 12:26
Counter-puncher wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 12:12 literally couldn't watch that sh1te, you couldn't pay me to
I seen the shite at the end, where a nervous Fury started shouting at Usyk, who as usual stared into his soul without batting an eyelid.

I really see Tyson as his dads clone now. He’s 1000 times better as a boxer but I don’t like the guy. He had won me over when he came back from addiction but he’s like a circus freak rather than a great boxer. To me anyway.

I’m no fan of Ali either, for many of the same reasons to do with personality, however he was a fearless fighter who didn’t duck anyone.
Yeh, i'm heading in the same direction myself. People go on about AJ's facade not being authentic, but Tyson's own 'mask' soon slips if any of his actions are questioned by someone brave enough not to join the media 'love-in'.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Deserter wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 14:14
Wee Tommy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 12:26
Counter-puncher wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 12:12 literally couldn't watch that sh1te, you couldn't pay me to
I seen the shite at the end, where a nervous Fury started shouting at Usyk, who as usual stared into his soul without batting an eyelid.

I really see Tyson as his dads clone now. He’s 1000 times better as a boxer but I don’t like the guy. He had won me over when he came back from addiction but he’s like a circus freak rather than a great boxer. To me anyway.

I’m no fan of Ali either, for many of the same reasons to do with personality, however he was a fearless fighter who didn’t duck anyone.
Yeh, i'm heading in the same direction myself. People go on about AJ's facade not being authentic, but Tyson's own 'mask' soon slips if any of his actions are questioned by someone brave enough not to join the media 'love-in'.
He’s a big shouty fanny now. Can only imagine what he was like when he was smashing the booze and gear. Bombscare.

I see Usyk beating him clearly, out boxing him. However I’d love it if we had a Lennox Lewis, Holyfield or Bowe around to really put it on him.

We’d be calling him ‘The Rabbit’ after any of those fights.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
he def made Usyk uncomfortable, even if he wasnt close to winning.
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joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
100%.
From what I recall, Usyk did very little for 3/4 rounds and once he’d had a look he won every second thereafter. Usyk gifted Chisora his rounds and you kinda get it as he was obviously still feeling out the heavyweight division. Either way it was a conclusive victory that only people who watched the fight will realise.
116-112 can sometimes be deceptive.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Dioufy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:41
joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
100%.
From what I recall, Usyk did very little for 3/4 rounds and once he’d had a look he won every second thereafter. Usyk gifted Chisora his rounds and you kinda get it as he was obviously still feeling out the heavyweight division. Either way it was a conclusive victory that only people who watched the fight will realise.
116-112 can sometimes be deceptive.
I genuinely believe Usyk didn't go full throttle in order to secure the AJ fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Nightmare Roy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 16:11
Dioufy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:41
joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33

This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
100%.
From what I recall, Usyk did very little for 3/4 rounds and once he’d had a look he won every second thereafter. Usyk gifted Chisora his rounds and you kinda get it as he was obviously still feeling out the heavyweight division. Either way it was a conclusive victory that only people who watched the fight will realise.
116-112 can sometimes be deceptive.
I genuinely believe Usyk didn't go full throttle in order to secure the AJ fight.
It was his 2nd fight above 14st 4lbs and his first was hardly even a fight against Witherspoon. To me it was pretty much a feeling out process vs Chisora. It just wasn’t a close fight at all.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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I think the Breidis fight was a lot more worrying for Usyk fans.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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I was for Gassiev in the tournament. Couldn’t believe how easily Usyk took him apart.

This Chisora shite is the same as the whole Bellew gave him trouble early on nonsense. He feels them out then after they barely land a glove on him.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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dominated chisora, but cut to shreds by otter (a southpaw like usyk). doesnt work perfectly. youd expect usyk to lose to aj too if you think chisora gave him hell wouldn't you?

quicker but smaller guys who can move, like uss and otter (same reach as usyk), landed plenty on fury. that style gives him the most problems if anything
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Dioufy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:41
joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
100%.
From what I recall, Usyk did very little for 3/4 rounds and once he’d had a look he won every second thereafter. Usyk gifted Chisora his rounds and you kinda get it as he was obviously still feeling out the heavyweight division. Either way it was a conclusive victory that only people who watched the fight will realise.
116-112 can sometimes be deceptive.
yup, chizzy won prob the first 2 then hardly landed after, usyk was in cruise control after that. some of the reaction to it was totally bizarre.

usyk performs to the occassion anyway, it's like bivol beating richards 7-5 then schooling canelo and zurdo
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joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
Yes absolutely - I had it 9-3 Usyk, it could have been 10-2 also.

The biggest current(ish) myth in boxing is Fury "schooling" Wlad and winning every round.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:17 dominated chisora, but cut to shreds by otter (a southpaw like usyk). doesnt work perfectly. youd expect usyk to lose to aj too if you think chisora gave him hell wouldn't you?

quicker but smaller guys who can move, like uss and otter (same reach as usyk), landed plenty on fury. that style gives him the most problems if anything
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I watched the Usyk - Chisora fight twice because I couldn’t believe what I heard from Bellew & Coldwell. Both times I watched I think it’s impossible to give Chisora a round after the 3rd.

Rounds 4-12 are all very clear Usyk rounds in my opinion.

Even in the first 3 it wasn’t like Usyk was ever in trouble. He looked like a fighter who had complete faith in his stamina & (rightfully) didn’t believe Chisora could maintain the pace.

Most of the shots Chisora landed were cuffing shots on the inside.

It’s just complete nonsense that Usyk was in trouble or that he could’ve lost the fight.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:17 dominated chisora, but cut to shreds by otter (a southpaw like usyk). doesnt work perfectly. youd expect usyk to lose to aj too if you think chisora gave him hell wouldn't you?

quicker but smaller guys who can move, like uss and otter (same reach as usyk), landed plenty on fury. that style gives him the most problems if anything
that’s a good point actually
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Wee Tommy wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:52
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:17 dominated chisora, but cut to shreds by otter (a southpaw like usyk). doesnt work perfectly. youd expect usyk to lose to aj too if you think chisora gave him hell wouldn't you?

quicker but smaller guys who can move, like uss and otter (same reach as usyk), landed plenty on fury. that style gives him the most problems if anything
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a force wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 18:25 I watched the Usyk - Chisora fight twice because I couldn’t believe what I heard from Bellew & Coldwell. Both times I watched I think it’s impossible to give Chisora a round after the 3rd.

Rounds 4-12 are all very clear Usyk rounds in my opinion.

Even in the first 3 it wasn’t like Usyk was ever in trouble. He looked like a fighter who had complete faith in his stamina & (rightfully) didn’t believe Chisora could maintain the pace.

Most of the shots Chisora landed were cuffing shots on the inside.

It’s just complete nonsense that Usyk was in trouble or that he could’ve lost the fight.
The company lads don't let facts get in the way of the sales pitch.
They had to try everything to sell this turd, they failed.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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a force wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 18:25 I watched the Usyk - Chisora fight twice because I couldn’t believe what I heard from Bellew & Coldwell. Both times I watched I think it’s impossible to give Chisora a round after the 3rd.

Rounds 4-12 are all very clear Usyk rounds in my opinion.

Even in the first 3 it wasn’t like Usyk was ever in trouble. He looked like a fighter who had complete faith in his stamina & (rightfully) didn’t believe Chisora could maintain the pace.

Most of the shots Chisora landed were cuffing shots on the inside.

It’s just complete nonsense that Usyk was in trouble or that he could’ve lost the fight.
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dan28uk wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 09:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Dec 2022, 10:52 I just wanna say, I find Joyce quite cringe.

I like the fella, but when he was up on the apron with Fury and they were shouting and getting riled up, it just didn't look right.
the only thing cringey about joyce is when he tries to string a sentence together
I’ve never seen Joyce appear anything other than comfortable and articulate (albeit with a safe, rehearsed feel), when interviewed.

I’m struggling to work out what there is to find cringey about the bloke, particularly during that outpouring of utter bollex from Fury on Saturday night.
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Kilburn wrote: 07 Dec 2022, 04:22
dan28uk wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 09:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 05 Dec 2022, 10:52 I just wanna say, I find Joyce quite cringe.

I like the fella, but when he was up on the apron with Fury and they were shouting and getting riled up, it just didn't look right.
the only thing cringey about joyce is when he tries to string a sentence together
I’ve never seen Joyce appear anything other than comfortable and articulate (albeit with a safe, rehearsed feel), when interviewed.

I’m struggling to work out what there is to find cringey about the bloke, particularly during that outpouring of utter bollex from Fury on Saturday night.
I think that is the issue - Joyce is such a nice guy, when he was on the apron calling out Fury it just seems so out of character.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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stujones wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 17:26
joshj909 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:33
Steveh583 wrote: 06 Dec 2022, 15:14 i see fury being too big and fighting too long for Usyk. unlike AJ he knows how to use his weight. plus by switching constantly he can negate the southpaw advantage. for as much (rightful) criticism as the fight got, fury utterly dominated every minute vs the guy who gave Usyk kittens only 3 fights previous.
This is becoming the biggest current myth in boxing
Yes absolutely - I had it 9-3 Usyk, it could have been 10-2 also.

The biggest current(ish) myth in boxing is Fury "schooling" Wlad and winning every round.
Yup. Was 115-113 Fury for me. Very close fight indeed and could easily have been a draw.

Gotta love a myth.
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Re: Round-by-Round: Tyson Fury vs. Derek Chisora III - 3 December 2022

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Tottenham Hotspur revealed that 59,789 fans purchased seats.

That doesn't actually mean there was that many people in attendance or that all the 59,789 tickets were sold to PEOPLE.
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